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post Jul 7 2015, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jul 7 2015, 02:20 PM)
Funny i always see complains from areas like BU n DU but RICHER areas like damansara heights, Bangsar (bukit bandaraya) n tropicana no complains.. DU station is thr cos uptown is a major office hub  icon_rolleyes.gif
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DU station is very far from the office hub. The train riders will have to walk from the train station across the housing area where those ppl are complaining live in to reach the office.

I guess the one who benefits most from the DU station are glomac centro and pelangi utama residents and kayu ara squatters.

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post Jul 8 2015, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Jul 7 2015, 11:30 PM)
Hi guys

Just a clarification since someone posted my FB posting here. This is a "Proposed Option" as I said Prasarana needs to study further if it is viable and justifiable.

The residents in my area BU-DU is protesting not the project, rather the station location that is near to some terrace houses, i.e. SS 21/42A. Car parking, security and construction issues are the Biggest ISSUES for residents.

Besides that, some areas where the guideway goes into a station, the track will need a "portal" construction, the "n" shape pillars across the Kayu Ara river. One of the end will be on DU side. OK I'm not going into technical stuffs.

I believed Tropicana would love to see the interchange at Surian MRT Station (Tropicana Gardens). But this alignment has other issues too, not to mentioned the possible "hooha" from Tropicana residents.
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Bro are the yellow boxes in that pic you posted potential future LRT stations?
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post Aug 28 2015, 12:43 AM

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Village grocer wanna pull tropicana crowd who shop in jaya grocer along Persiaran tropicana. Gg ady jaya grocer.. waiting to close shop soon.

It's an interesting place la. Damansara crowd would definitely visit this place. They even frequent mj cafe a lot. Pretty good chill out spot.

Pls have more open air parking can ady.

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post Aug 28 2015, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Aug 28 2015, 10:28 PM)
boss i dnt think its tht easy to bring over customers from the jaya there..hears they doing v well.. from my exp n understanding, jaya grocer stuff n experience seems better than village.. either way many grocers coming up in damansara n many gonna kill each other!

Need good FnB here!
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Jaya there damn cramped la bro. Trolley also smaller than other grocers. You will know what I mean if u go there yrself. Yeah they are doing well now because they got no competition ma..
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post Sep 1 2015, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ladysoul @ Sep 1 2015, 12:51 PM)
I stay opposite TRave so Village Grocer is a big bonus for our parcel. No need to go to JG, they no need to worry about losing customers because got strong buying power there (Ara D'sara, Mutiara Tropicana and Tropicana Golf proper) smile.gif

TRave will be like what Centerpoint is to the BU residents smile.gif

Any news on any FnB's coming to TRave aaa? smile.gif
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+1.

JG has extremely limited parking space and it's really small. It's basically 5 shoplots or lesser. The crowd is definitely gonna be pulled away. VG on the other hand has an extremely perfect location for parking and other activities too, definitely on the upper hand.
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post Sep 1 2015, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Ladysoul @ Sep 1 2015, 01:55 PM)
True, JG always kena trolley-jam. Tight aisles and have to thank the guards there for doing their best to control the traffic that comes in cari parking.

I hope the 5 lots that VG has taken up in TRave is larger than JG. It has to be, right?
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Hopefully :/

You are really right about the centrepoint for BU.

TA is gonna be the Centrepoint for Tropicana.
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post Sep 2 2015, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(jcvstlys @ Sep 2 2015, 10:50 PM)
Anyone can confirm?

rclxms.gif  if it is... Don't have to turn to Centrepoint everytime.. it's a long way to go back Tropicana
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Haha feel you bro. It's a long way going to mj area from cp too
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post Sep 3 2015, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(jcvstlys @ Sep 3 2015, 01:12 AM)
If only that road in 1tech park opens back  thumbup.gif
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His feng Shui belief. Everything can flow into bu but not out.

That's why the road from bu to curve was only opened recently
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post Sep 4 2015, 12:01 AM

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Typical shc style and pattern la. Haha!
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QUOTE(Darkknight2010 @ Sep 4 2015, 04:11 PM)
Selfish is those who want conveniences or advantage in the expenses of someone else's inconveniences.  BUCC already explained the reasons behind this decision but those people who used to enjoy free access didn't want to accept. 

I don't see anything wrong here as this is their land, their right.  No one should tell them what to do to their land just like how you dislike other tell you how to live your life. 

If anything illegal here then different stories. 

If it was my land I would have closed it permanently if these protesters still ah zi ah zo.
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Actually what's the reason ah boss?

Is it because users from tropicana will cause more jam during Peak hours? This is damn true. The bu11 bridge is seriously damn bloody jam last time. The traffic eased a lot after they closed the access towards tropicana and from tropicana.

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post Sep 4 2015, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(SPianz @ Sep 4 2015, 10:02 PM)
self·ish/ˈselfiSH/
adjective
(of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.

In this case, BUCC = Personal/Private, Road user = Public

Worse still.. they just control <5% of the road causing inconveniences and troubles to the public.
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You may think it's inconvenient for u. But what abt the residents of bandar utama? It's BUCC land and they are fighting for the ease of bu residents. So what if it's only 5%?

Do u know how jam can that bridge be with that stupid access?

If you are capable pls go and Sue them. Thing is u and all the other a zi a zo protesters including bukit lancang assembly men/woman can't. Seriously.. sometimes wanna fight also pls monitor the traffic flow first la. don't fight just for the sake of fighting. Fish market?

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post Dec 11 2015, 09:31 AM

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Lumi tropicana vs tropicana avenue.

Pros and cons?
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post Dec 11 2015, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Brandon323 @ Dec 11 2015, 12:36 PM)
Lumi got execution risk whereas TA is going to VP soon. Depending the rest of the sales of Lumi, I rate it quite high risk as their land cost is high.
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You mean Lumi will become an abandoned project?

But thriven global has a CG from mulpha international (a rm1.2bil paid up capital company with a profit after tax of rm480mil in 2012, a holding company focuses mainly in foreign land development mainly Australia.)

Thriven global revenue jumped 3 folds since 2010 to 45 mil in 2014. No dividend delclared which shows shareholders financial commitment towards the company. This is further supported by a 3 times increase in paid up capital to 22 mil from 9 mil in 2013 probably due to lumi visions. Reason for their low revenue was due to no big launches and rev being recognised upon completion of projects.

Thrive purchased a rm113mil from tropicana in 2013. But mulpha int acts as a CG to thriven with a paid up cap of 1.2bil.. I don't see how is a 113mil land cost a high risk given lumi tropicana itself carries a gdv of 850 mil.

Land cost is high? but price for an average unit in lumi tropicana is 1.2 mil. They sell 94 units ady cover the land cost. So far they already sold roughly 100 units with confirmed bank approval.

Pls enlighten me.

I personally felt that it will be a show down between TA and Lumi. Let's see what kinda tenants will they bring in. But TA shops are strata shops while lumi ones aren't. Well both TA and LT will bring vibrant to Persiaran tropicana.

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post Dec 11 2015, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(Brandon323 @ Dec 11 2015, 05:45 PM)
Quite high risk is not "will become" la. If risk is 10% also, I consider as quite high risk.

Corporate guarantee from Mulpha? What does it cover? Corporate guarantee for what? Loans from banks? Cover end purchasers?

45mil turnover and 22 mil paid up is very small la.

If GDV is 850mil and they have sold 100 times 1.2mil = 120 mil , it means 14% of total GDV sold to date? Hmm...still a long way to go.

Sell 94 units means cover the land cost? Bro, do you know how to calculate? You think the 94 units sale is net profit ah? They will be happy to make 10% of that only. Long way more before can cover land cost.

Please enlighten me further. I am learning.
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If 10% is high risk then all project financing can go longkang already.

Yes 45 mil turnover is very small but it was a 3 times fold from 2010, given that it's the subsidiary of mulpha int. And even if it's a 22 mil paid up capital company, it has a solid TNW of 140mil. So does that mean all the sme with 500k paid up but million of TNW are considerably small also? Lol.. Bro.. this is a developer and their revenue is recognised upon completion of projects. If there are no projects yet to be completed then how would the revenue be big? Some developers recognise their revenue upon progressive billing.

You said that there will be a risk of execution in the events of default plus it's 113mil land cost which is deemed high in yr scenario but mulpha int acts as a guarantor to loans from bank. Given the size of mulpha int, the land cost is nth comparable to its CG"s paid up of 1.3bil or a clearer indicator, it's TNW of 2.4bil. Thriven TNW of 140mil is able to cover lumi tropicana land cost of 113mil already. And also fyi, purchasing the land and securing a contract to finance the project are two different events so ya.

I'm just giving an indicator to yr high land cost in terms of a gdv. Ya I admit I was being sarcastic in comparing. Idk how to calculate bro. Just trying my luck to keep my job with false calculation.

I'm learning too. Cheers buddy

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post May 5 2016, 12:13 PM

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DIBS players kena pressured? 660 sq ft asking for 570k. That's like 860 psf. Bigger units are asking for 900 psf above. TA appears to be a heavy flippers project.

http://www.propwall.my/tropicana/tropicana...&taggable_type=

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post May 5 2016, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(satrianeo-x @ May 5 2016, 12:29 PM)
BTW, a neighbour, an ARAB, was saying to me, about the rental (on residential) TA was asking and she says they must be out of their minds.
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Haha. This area doesn't have good public amenities and still lack of commies. Let's see how long can these DIBS players hold. It won't be too long till one can snap up some DIBS chicken.

You live in TA ah boss?
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post May 5 2016, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(satrianeo-x @ May 5 2016, 01:13 PM)
I not so rich la boss. I live very nearby
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Boss not about rich or poor. I remember TA was still selling at 900 psf developer price after disc back then. Now 860 psf. Why is the price trending downwards? And why are the bigger units here asking for 900 plus psf?

Hopefully the rise in the commie activities here and the upcoming LRT 3 will push the price to an uptrend.
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Don't need to call me singam lingam. I posted a link from propwall earier so I'm just saying what I saw. Maybe you should call propwall a singam lingam then. Millions apologies if any of these harmless comments scratched yr butt. U can go to the clinic in TA to ease yr butt hurt. Kthxbye

http://www.propwall.my/tropicana/tropicana...&taggable_type=

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QUOTE(Darkknight2010 @ May 5 2016, 03:32 PM)
LOL, saupei la, mat 7 butt hurt...LOL...sometime when I see ignorant and sengkalingam I just can't help.....what developer price 900psf after rebate, collect dead chicken, your whole life only waiting for this kind of opportunities, the real dead chicken are available and picked up even without you knowing it, you can go see psychologist la.  Bye bye LOL.
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Ok

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post Apr 14 2017, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Mar 19 2017, 08:18 PM)
1.35M can get you new at Lumi Tropicana for about 1,000+ square feet with 2 parking laugh.gif

I don't know anyone selling 1,600 sq ft unit thou.
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1.35mil can get middle floors 1550sf in Lumi. Almost fully furnished with 3+1 bedrooms, 3 toilets and 3 balconies.

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