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darkddly
post Apr 4 2017, 06:08 AM

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Dear all,

I went to houses lightning and saw downlight cost around RM10~ each.

Would those lights be okay? cos in this thread, saw ppl discussing all rm30-1xx per light haha
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post Apr 4 2017, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(darkddly @ Apr 4 2017, 07:08 AM)
Dear all,

I went to houses lightning and saw downlight cost around RM10~ each.

Would those lights be okay? cos in this thread, saw ppl discussing all rm30-1xx per light haha
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i buy around Nov 2016 10pcs which cost RM14/pc. until today 1 already burn after lighthing strike around my "taman"
other house also got burn LED downlight. worst case 6 burn in 1 house. he bought at RM35/pc.
i buy only 10pcs because my friend said, this type of LED downlight only last 3 months.
i buy to test first. but lucky because the shop gift 1 year warranty.
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post Apr 4 2017, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(HeartRoxas @ Mar 31 2017, 11:36 AM)
Hi all, for those experienced in these kind of lighting (attached), how is it mounted on the plaster ceiling? Can it hold or must I connect it to a stud?

If the house came with full plaster ceiling by developer, any ways to get around doing this? Also what about tracklights, I figure those need to mount on studs as well?

Thanks.
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For the pendant lights, it's not mounted to the plaster ceiling itself as it will not hold over time. Usually the electrician will bolt it to a timber support (some sites refer to it as lath, can't for the life of me remember what its called locally) within the plaster ceiling.

Same would apply for track lights, better to install it to something with better support to avoid cracks on your plaster ceiling due to the weight of the light fixture.
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post Apr 4 2017, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(cooyard @ Apr 4 2017, 08:48 AM)
i buy around Nov 2016 10pcs which cost RM14/pc. until today 1 already burn after lighthing strike around my "taman"
other house also got burn LED downlight. worst case 6 burn in 1 house. he bought at RM35/pc.
i buy only 10pcs because my friend said, this type of LED downlight only last 3 months.
i buy to test first. but lucky because the shop gift 1 year warranty.
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The cheap LED don't have a good power supply.

A good power supply have some component design to protect such surge voltage in some degree.
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post Apr 5 2017, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(adrianjc @ Apr 4 2017, 07:00 PM)
For the pendant lights, it's not mounted to the plaster ceiling itself as it will not hold over time. Usually the electrician will bolt it to a timber support (some sites refer to it as lath, can't for the life of me remember what its called locally) within the plaster ceiling.

Same would apply for track lights, better to install it to something with better support to avoid cracks on your plaster ceiling due to the weight of the light fixture.
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Hey, thanks a lot for the reply.

Isn't plaster ceiling stuck onto metal "studs"? Are you suggesting that those are usually bolted into those metal fixtures for strong hold? In that case, since my plaster ceiling is already fixed, I may need to try and error, or even drilling a little to look for the studs am I right?

If the studs are not aligned with the bar table, then I cant do that kind of lighting as well.
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post Apr 5 2017, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(HeartRoxas @ Apr 5 2017, 02:25 AM)
Hey, thanks a lot for the reply.

Isn't plaster ceiling stuck onto metal "studs"? Are you suggesting that those are usually bolted into those metal fixtures for strong hold? In that case, since my plaster ceiling is already fixed, I may need to try and error, or even drilling a little to look for the studs am I right?

If the studs are not aligned with the bar table, then I cant do that kind of lighting as well.
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The metal pieces holding your plaster ceiling are not strong enough to hold your light fixtures. You would also want to avoid installing on those simply because any electricity leak would turn the metal pieces into conduits and potentially cause more problems.

You can try drilling first to see if there is anything to bolt the fixtures too, but to properly do the installation you'd need to cut a hole in the plaster ceiling. Putting back the cut out piece is not too difficult or messy if done right and most electrician's would be familiar with the process. Just be prepared to repaint and touch up the plaster ceiling on completion.

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QUOTE(adrianjc @ Apr 5 2017, 03:18 AM)
The metal pieces holding your plaster ceiling are not strong enough to hold your light fixtures. You would also want to avoid installing on those simply because any electricity leak would turn the metal pieces into conduits and potentially cause more problems.

You can try drilling first to see if there is anything to bolt the fixtures too, but to properly do the installation you'd need to cut a hole in the plaster ceiling. Putting back the cut out piece is not too difficult or messy if done right and most electrician's would be familiar with the process. Just be prepared to repaint and touch up the plaster ceiling on completion.
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Got it, so it's not those metal fixtures, but laths. I need to make sure I have those in the first place. Thanks again. I guess engaging with the electrician is the best in this case. That means I have to buy the lights before he comes.

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post Apr 5 2017, 02:55 PM

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For anyone looking for downlight casings and LED lighting, just saw that HOS In D'sign is having a promo on their FB page. Price i'm guessing its from RM1 for downlight casings and LED lights from RM12.90, they didn't state brands on their post so have no idea.

To get the promo, you need to:
1. Like & follow their page
2. Show the post to them
3. Get the promo

HOS In D'sign FB

Say's while stocks last so GO... GO... GO...


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post Apr 5 2017, 11:32 PM

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Hi Sifu,

Any recommendation for the spot light for outdoor and garden?

Thanks.
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post Apr 6 2017, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(okhui26 @ Apr 5 2017, 11:32 PM)
Hi Sifu,

Any recommendation for the spot light for outdoor and garden?

Thanks.
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Don't have any specific brand to recommend but stay away from the cheap China ones. Doesn't last very long outdoors and the one i used before always gave issues (both spotlight and tower light). Tower light wasn't exactly cheap either.

Also make sure your contractor uses armour cables for your outdoor cables.
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post Apr 6 2017, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(adrianjc @ Apr 6 2017, 09:27 AM)
Don't have any specific brand to recommend but stay away from the cheap China ones. Doesn't last very long outdoors and the one i used before always gave issues (both spotlight and tower light). Tower light wasn't exactly cheap either.

Also make sure your contractor uses armour cables for your outdoor cables.
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For outdoor light specially garden and expose to rain and shine, makesure seal air tight the light. But also makesure it can dissipate the heat out.

Moisture from hot and cold outdoor is always kill the light fast.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 6 2017, 09:41 AM)
For outdoor light specially garden and expose to rain and shine, makesure seal air tight the light. But also makesure it can dissipate the heat out.

Moisture from hot and cold outdoor is always kill the light fast.
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Thanks for the guide.
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post Apr 6 2017, 09:49 PM

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my living and dining area =396.26 ft²
how to calculate track LED light required ?

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post Apr 8 2017, 11:05 PM

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sorry for noob question,
my T5 lighting once on, will delay like half an hour only on.
sometimes 15min. Bright no problem.

is bulb or fuis issue? thanks
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post Apr 9 2017, 06:19 AM

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QUOTE(arju @ Apr 8 2017, 11:05 PM)
sorry for noob question,
my T5 lighting once on, will delay like half an hour only on.
sometimes 15min. Bright no problem.

is bulb or fuis issue? thanks
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For the entire strip or just one specific bulb? If its for the entire strip then problem could lie in electricity delivery, but if its just a specific bulb then it could be an issue with the fitting or the bulb itself.

T5 lighting does not have an external fuse or choke attached unless you're referring to that at your main fuse box. But it shouldn't be the issue as any issue at the main fuse box will impact some other areas as well depending on how your electrician did the connections.
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post Apr 9 2017, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Apr 6 2017, 09:49 PM)
my living and dining area =396.26 ft²
how to calculate track LED light required ?

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I just space them 2 to 3 feet apart
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post Apr 9 2017, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 9 2017, 09:19 AM)
I just space them 2 to 3 feet apart
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u mean tracking light apart?
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post Apr 9 2017, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Apr 9 2017, 12:42 PM)
u mean tracking light apart?
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I mean the fixtures on a single track.
For mine, my track is the width of my walls
Then I space out each "bullet" maybe 2.5 feet apart. It really depends on your space and how bright you want the area lit. Make sure the tracks are not too far from the wall. 1.5 to 2 feet away from the wall depending on your ceiling height

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post Apr 9 2017, 08:33 PM

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Hi, where can I get this light bulb in Puchong / Subang area?? Thanks.
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post Apr 10 2017, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(rizqeenizdral @ Apr 9 2017, 08:33 PM)
Hi, where can I get this light bulb in Puchong / Subang area?? Thanks.
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nearby Tesco Puchong Extra got so many light shops.....try TopTen

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