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post May 13 2019, 11:49 PM

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Eventually, after causing much losses for Daenerys, causing her to have a mad rampage, throwing the scent off by sacrificing his best friend and savior, knowing that Jon Snow doesn't want the throne and would prefer to go homevnorth (also Jon having lost faith in Dany for senseless killings), possibly psycho-ing Arya into faceless killing Daenerys (makes for better plot, Arya kills Grey Worm and takes his face and speaks Valyrian) and proving that his family had always served the throne (a Hand of the King, a knight, a queen) and protected it from mad Targaryen monarchs (one Kingslayer, one Queen that tried but failed to protect the city) and since he is Hand of the Queen, the imp achieves what his father would have considered impossible - become King of the Seven Kingdoms. Tyrion, of the House Lannister, First of his name. Good night

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post May 14 2019, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(Muhammad Syukri @ May 14 2019, 03:52 AM)
nope this is not the ending.

we knew the true real leak ending  here it is also utterly disappointing.

keyword is Bran
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Yea...yea... I know that one. That theory also weird. The north people keep to themselves. Someone once said that the Starks never do well when they go to Kings Landing. See what happened to Ned, his brother and his father?Why would Bran for that matter want to go there? Unless Varys wrote the scroll for Bran before he got incinerated and begged him to come, probably because Dany going crazy



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post May 14 2019, 09:33 AM

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Plus points for...
- Thrilling us in each scene with Arya when she was trying to get out of Kings Landing, and breathing a sigh of relief when she mounted the white horse and rode it out.
- Cleganebowl finally happened after 8 seasons...
- Lots and lots of fire mixed with green flames all round to remind us of wildfire.
- Showing slaughter and carnage, blood and gore, the reminders of war and a woman gone crazy on a dragon...reminding us she's going (or gone) down the road of her mad dad.

The rest...well,
- Not understand why Tyrion sold out Varys...What did that achieved? A smart move would have been to keep Varys and sell him out only if Dany didn't go mad. I guess Tyrion ran out of eunuch jokes.
- Euron is narcissistic. He mounted plenty o' scorpions on his ships but fired just the one from his because the camera was zooming in on him. Also, good for showing off his flying into the water skills.
- Lesson learnt: Never hire the Golden Company. They couldn't tell you a dragon was flying their way because they never looked behind the walls.
- Take it from Thanos - You should have aimed for the head. I would have liked Sandor to have survived and he should have taken off Gregor's head instead.
- I felt Jaime and Cersei should have been given a better send-off after 8 seasons. Instead, they died by rubble (or did they? @maggy froggy).

Anyhow...I'm just b***hing here on some of the plot points I felt this episode could have done better. Since it was so disappointing (for me, perhaps not everyone else), I wouldn't be surprised if Arya was riding the white horse out of Kings Landing only for a hungry Drogon to swoop down and devour the horse with her on it. That would have been surprising!!

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post May 14 2019, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(eezzad @ May 14 2019, 12:20 PM)
I just want to know what will happen to Bronn
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He will come back to Kings Landing and become Commander of the City Watch
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post May 14 2019, 03:27 PM

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One big question remains.... In all that fiery carnage and wanton destruction, did the Iron Throne survived? Or will we just find a puddle of black, hard, solid mass where it once proudly stood?
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post May 16 2019, 06:22 PM

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Dany - gets killed by Arya who was horrified by the devastation of Kings Landing. Arya disguises as Grey Worm after killing him somewhere else so that she can get close to Dany. Drogon can't protect Dany as this happens inside.

Grey Worm - killed by Arya to take his face.

Arya - takes Grey Worm's identity, kills Dany and then leads the Unsullied back to Essos and disappears for good. Perhaps becoming a teacher at the House of Black and White.

Jon - is consumed with grief over the murder of Dany. Decides he still doesn't want the throne and returns to the north to help the not anymore Wildlings since there is no longer a proper wall. Has a proper reunion with Ghost and Tormund.

Sansa - returns to Kings Landing on receiving Varys letter. Sees the destruction and decides there is nothing left. Sansa returns to the North, as Lady of Winterfell, Warden of the North. She relieves Brienne of her oath.

Tyrion - upon the death of Sansa, as Queen's Hand and previously King's Hand, and Protector of Kings Landing @ the Battle of Blackwater, claims the Iron Throne. Becomes King of the Seven Kingdoms. The following become his Small Council:
Ser Davos Seaworth - King's Hand; Bran Stark (having traveled South with Sansa) - Master of Whisperers (hey, who better than someone who knows what you said, will say or have said even before you said it??); Samwell Tarly (summoned to Kings Landing to be Maester there), and some unknown who becomes Master of Coins.

Ser Brienne - remains in Kings Landing. Since her love is dead (i.e. Kingslayer) she decides to commit herself to rebuilding and guarding Kings Landing or the King. Becomes commander of the City Watch or perhaps the Commander of the new Kingsguard.

Bronn - becomes Bronn of House Blackwater, Lord of the Reach, ruler of Highgarden, perhaps become Master of Coins as well. Gets a castle in Highgarden AND a castle in Kings Landing (so gets his two castles). Not impossible since Tywin was King's Hand at the same time holding Casterly Rock.

And no matter what the spoilers say....this is the ending I would have liked from David and D.B.

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post May 19 2019, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(AryaStark @ May 18 2019, 06:44 PM)
Jon will killed Dany after Dany decides to execute Tyrion for freeing Jaime. Then Jon takes the black for killing the queen. The council votes for Bran to take the iron throne. Bran becomes king, supported by the council (tyrion, davos, sam, bronn). The end.
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Black of what? hmm.gif The white walkers are gone. And why he need to take the black? hmm.gif He killed the queen but he is also the rightful king. So he don't need to take black..He can just fly away with Drogon.

Bran becomes king...Bran doesn't need a council. All the advise he ever needs is inside his head, no? icon_idea.gif He sees everything (Isn't that what he said? "I'm the Three Eyed Raven. I see everything now") and he wants nothing (He said that to Tyrion, "I don't want anymore".)

So if this spoiler/leak is actually true, then it has damn a lot of plot holes. And why is Bronn there? Where is his castle? He should just take the crossbow shoot Tyrion dead and ride into the sunset. Just like a cowboy movie....
And Davos should go back to smuggling onions.... laugh.gif



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post May 19 2019, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(r2t2 @ May 18 2019, 11:14 PM)
Of course, it could've been better.  Seems like the showrunners/writers are tired and wanted to end the show asap, since no more story details from G.R.R. Martin, just outlines; so, they decided to go for spectacles and visuals instead, less plot twists and surprises since S8 is about tying the loose ends ... some storylines are ended with just a brief scene, that's why most fervent fans are disappointed.

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They built the whole thing up to a crescendo only for it to end with a.......? Well, we will find out on Monday!



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post May 19 2019, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(6so @ May 16 2019, 03:55 PM)
Happy ending...
Jon kills Danny then himself, Drogon torch Arya, Bran knife himself with dragon glass to continue NK cycle...

Ned Stark woke up from slumber, all these while just a dream...lol...
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At least if the producers are going to set us up for anything disappointing, they can run this scenario. I won't object. mega_shok.gif icon_idea.gif
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post May 22 2019, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(magnesium @ May 21 2019, 02:59 PM)
Comment for the last episode pls
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Hahaha...Good one. rclxms.gif Someone actually asked me to comment on the last episode. icon_question.gif
Read through and I've also added some thoughts at the end.

QUOTE(VyvernS @ May 16 2019, 06:22 PM)
Dany - gets killed by Arya who was horrified by the devastation of Kings Landing. Arya disguises as Grey Worm after killing him somewhere else so that she can get close to Dany. Drogon can't protect Dany as this happens inside. - This DID happen. But not in the way I envisioned it. I wished Arya to use her special skills as much as she could. But DB and David decided for the easy "plunge knife into the heart" way. I wanted something more imaginative. They had a budget.

Grey Worm - killed by Arya to take his face. - Obviously, this did not happen. But he played his role effectively, bringing Tyrion to the Dragonpit and after that had to settle for King Bran and the old/new/old/new Hand. What I felt most important was to remind us that even though he is Unsullied, programmed to take commands, he still had the hearts for Missandei and returned to Essos. After which, Bran could have pardoned Jon and said, "Stay on in the Six Kingdoms, bro...."

Arya - takes Grey Worm's identity, kills Dany and then leads the Unsullied back to Essos and disappears for good. Perhaps becoming a teacher at the House of Black and White. - Nope. Did not happened. But she was effectively there to psycho Jon that the Starks will never bend the knee, and Jon is still the greater threat to Dany.

Jon - is consumed with grief over the murder of Dany. Decides he still doesn't want the throne and returns to the north to help the not anymore Wildlings since there is no longer a proper wall. Has a proper reunion with Ghost and Tormund. - Was partially consumed with grief over killing Dany but realized the practicality of doing it. "It's a terrible thing I'm asking you to do" so said Tyrion. And hey, he did return to the North, and ventured beyond the Wall with the Wildlings. And he did get that proper reunion with Ghost and Tormund. - So that was great.


Sansa - returns to Kings Landing on receiving Varys letter. Sees the destruction and decides there is nothing left. Sansa returns to the North, as Lady of Winterfell, Warden of the North. She relieves Brienne of her oath. - Okay, this partially didn't happened. And she got the better deal than I imagined. QUEEN IN THE NORTH!!! Yay!...Go get her, girl!

Tyrion - upon the death of Sansa, as Queen's Hand and previously King's Hand, and Protector of Kings Landing @ the Battle of Blackwater, claims the Iron Throne. Becomes King of the Seven Kingdoms. The following become his Small Council:
Ser Davos Seaworth - King's Hand; Bran Stark (having traveled South with Sansa) - Master of Whisperers (hey, who better than someone who knows what you said, will say or have said even before you said it??); Samwell Tarly  (summoned to Kings Landing to be Maester there), and some unknown who becomes Master of Coins.

Ser Brienne - remains in Kings Landing. Since her love is dead (i.e. Kingslayer) she decides to commit herself to rebuilding and guarding Kings Landing or the King. Becomes commander of the City Watch or perhaps the Commander of the new Kingsguard.

Bronn - becomes Bronn of House Blackwater, Lord of the Reach, ruler of Highgarden, perhaps become Master of Coins as well. Gets a castle in Highgarden AND a castle in Kings Landing (so gets his two castles). Not impossible since Tywin was King's Hand at the same time holding Casterly Rock.

As for the last part.....hey, it almost is right! Tyrion didn't become king, but became Hand (again....Not sure how many times he needs to be Hand. Was an Assistant Hand, then not Hand, then Hand of the Queen, then not Hand and Hand again. Lord Davos (I love this! - from Onion Knight to Onion Lord!) Master of Ships not Hand, Bran became the King - so the roles here were swapped between Tyrion and Bran on the council, Sam IS the Maester, Ser Brienne IS the new Commander of the Kingsguard AND my most accurate prediction Bronn IS ruler of Highgarden and Master of Coins....I love Bronn. He is survivor. Ever since Season 1, when he declined armor to fight for Tyrion at the Moon Door. 

And no matter what the spoilers say....this is the ending I would have liked from David and D.B.
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ May 19 2019, 05:25 PM)
Black of what? hmm.gif  The white walkers are gone. And why he need to take the black?  hmm.gif He killed the queen but he is also the rightful king. So he don't need to take black..He can just fly away with Drogon.

Bran becomes king...Bran doesn't need a council. All the advise he ever needs is inside his head, no?  icon_idea.gif  He sees everything (Isn't that what he said? "I'm the Three Eyed Raven. I see everything now") and he wants nothing (He said that to Tyrion, "I don't want anymore".)

So if this spoiler/leak is actually true, then it has damn a lot of plot holes. And why is Bronn there? Where is his castle? He should just take the crossbow shoot Tyrion dead and ride into the sunset. Just like a cowboy movie....
And Davos should go back to smuggling onions.... laugh.gif

This is written because I also know about the leaks and spoilers and feel that we should give ourselves imagination to like how we would want it to end. Let your imaginations run wild as much as possible, So yea, Dr. in Spain got it right (usually it's this doctor who is the source of all the spoilers). But then, hey....

- Why do you have to be in the Night's Watch to do charity......or whatever it is that Jon needs to do in the North...?
- At least they explained why Bran needs a council. He is going Dragon Hunting. I hope he comes back alive, unlike the King who went Boar Hunting. But hey, if King Robert hadn't been killed, we won't have a A Song of Ice and Fire by Archmaester Ebrose.
- And a Lannister always pays his debt. So, he settled it for Bronn. One thing that I have learnt is that Bronn knows how to create the best deals, wait for the rewards. And he made them with a Lannister or two, and always got paid.


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All in all, I loved how it ended for most characters except Dany. I felt her death/murder could have been dealt with differently, more emotionally, more expressively. It was just like hey, talk, kiss, knife in and dead. Also, in today's society, Jon would be walking free. We actually don't have a witness to say Jon killed Dany. Perhaps after some heated argument, Dany could have flown off with Drogon for ever and ever not to be seen again. ??? Remember Season 5, when she disappeared? There's a story going around which I like. Drogon found a Red Priest or Priestess who brings Dany back to life and she returns to Westeros with a vengeance.

All through the last 7-8 seasons, I have been rooting for a few people in particular. I'm glad they survived and got some good endings. Bronn, because he makes smart remarks every time he hits the screen and he is smart when he fights. Sam, just because he is Sam. Davos, because he always appears level headed whenever emotions take control of the rest, he is always like..."Friends, friends,..." Or how he won over Lady Lyanna Mormont in Season 6. It's their character traits that attract me. nod.gif

Most of all, the person I've rooted for from the beginning was Ned Stark. He may have lost his head in Season 1, Episode 9 but I followed the family and their trials and I'm sure a lot of people rooted for Arya and Sansa. As for Bran, I was just curious how his arc would turn out and hey, he became King of the Six Kingdoms. So this is the part where I'm really happy for how it ended for them.....Imagine how proud Ned Stark would be of his children (i"m not sarcastic)....Look at them... thumbup.gif

Sansa - Lady of Winterfell, QUEEN IN THE NORTH
Bran the Broken - KING OF THE SIX KINGDOMS
Jon Snow - Knight's Watch, and probably will end up KING BEYOND THE WALL or at least the leader of the Wildlings. Ser Alliser got it right..
Arya Stark - QUEEN OF HER OWN DESTINY....That's not me.

So while there were critics and supporters for this season, DB and David provided appropriate closure for the characters and their story arcs. GRRM may not follow this ending, might create a more imaginative one. But for that, we will have to wait. For now, the show is ended and so is this longish article. rclxms.gif

My watch here is ended.

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