hmm, having trouble connecting to the hub since yesterday, got an error sying the machine is actively refusing connection? server down or what?

apparently i contacted the hub owner, it is closed now due to some attack. he said he will consider opening it again if a lot more people wanted to. or maybe someone else want to take his place?

peerless? u mean like bit torrent? or like megaupload? or more like usenet?

yup, someone else need to start a new one. old hoster dont want to continue