QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Aug 23 2010, 02:01 AM)
Yup take the EVO one, the other one is the normal i think, or maybe it's the M-ATX version, this mobo got ATX & M-ATX IIANM AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V23, It has come!Bulldozer heat is around us.
AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V23, It has come!Bulldozer heat is around us.
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Aug 23 2010, 02:18 AM
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Aug 23 2010, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Aug 23 2010, 12:04 PM) eh bro ah_khoo, wats is d drawback of goin for 4+1 pwm board? gaygay 890gpa is 4+1...care to explain? thxs The drawback is that u have to be careful when oc'ing high TDP chippies (eg: 140W) like X4 965 coz when oc they put a lot of stress on the pwm's.. With a good 8+2 pwm's u may have better breathing room b4 stressing the pwm's, thats why on mobo like 770-C45 extra precaution is needed in oc to make sure that u won't fry ur lowly 4+1 pwm's With AMD cpu, 8+2 phase pwm is quite a lot already but on Intel i7's just look at the numbers of phase pwm's they have 12, 16, and i dare think 8 phase is maybe the minimum |
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Aug 23 2010, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 23 2010, 12:23 PM) nothing wrong but it's better to have more to be on d safe side (bein kiasu) provided d implementation is gud. some say a real phase consist of group of mosfets & capasitors as well as a driver ic. theoretically more phase leads to more stable volts, hence cleaner voltage. it's useful when u torture ya components (especially chip) with handsome amount of volt... :/lol:
off topic: for those who're keen to grab a pair of GSKILL FLARE/Patriot AMD Black Edition (binned for AMD)... :/hehe: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Bole trade in ke? Sy mau itu kipas biru utk ram QUOTE(sai86 @ Aug 23 2010, 12:30 PM) ooo...then its safe for me to go for d gaygay adi since i won't torture my chip as crazy like u :/lol: .Just a mild oc will do for me (dun have d ability to go crazy oc :/( ).. Hahahaha what to do ah_khoo is like that, always like to push oc gila-gila, old timers |
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Aug 23 2010, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 23 2010, 12:46 PM) buley, top up another SGD $70 then it's all yas bro... Sis xixo meh? Hahahaha, i'm waiting for her leh, she already do spring cleaning selling her current mobo + cpu + rams, i'm waiting to see a master with thuban in her hands to emerge where got bro? i never put my stuff under cold, how can it be considered as oc gila2... i sayang i punyer stuff leh... those oc gila2 are sis verdict & xixo... me sub zero noob... I'm sure her ram tweaking prowess will b***h slap my noob skill in ram tweaking |
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Aug 23 2010, 02:29 PM
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Aug 23 2010, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(verdict @ Aug 23 2010, 04:13 PM) Sigh, another of our gang bite the dust But cannot deny it tho, for people liking to play with high frequency ram + tight timings intel chippies does have the legs for it.. Here's hoping that bulldozer core will bring highly improved IMC with it |
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Aug 23 2010, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(dafreak @ Aug 23 2010, 06:45 PM) Around 1st quarter next year QUOTE(piumiu @ Aug 23 2010, 07:07 PM) I dont push my RAM as normally I use stock setting. Huhuhuhu, bro piumiu changes spec like changing clothes, what happen to ur aiseben rig bro? sell off? Bought it for its black color heatsink and a bit of legroom if my oc requires it. |
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Aug 23 2010, 08:54 PM
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I wanted to ask a long time now but kept forgetting ah, usually for DDR3 what value do we put best for the refresh cycle time when ocing the rams? 110ns? 160ns?
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Aug 25 2010, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Aug 24 2010, 11:46 PM) thread implementation of bulldozer is different from intel hyper threading. IMO it's not really that hard to understand..but not sure how is it works. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/bulldo...ips,2724-2.html ![]() IIANM amd just simplified things a bit, instead of a single cpu core with only a core, amd uses a module term which have 2 cores, let say for a 8 core cpu it will have 4 modules with 2 cores per module inside.. 16 core cpu will have 8 modules and so on and so on.. The reason they say that their spin off for hyperthreading is better bcoz if it works, for every execution/process an intel cpu with HT able to do in a tick, bulldozer can do 2 execution/process at the same tick Added on August 25, 2010, 1:02 am QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Aug 25 2010, 12:11 AM) Some bad news : "The bad news is that it(Bulldozer) won’t be compatible with existing AM3 boards. Instead, AMD says it will introduce a new AM3+ socket. These sockets will be backward compatible with older chips so you could drop a Phenom II X6 in it. According to AMD, Bulldozer will be built on a new 32nm process at Global Foundries." QUOTE(dafreak @ Aug 25 2010, 12:19 AM) should be expected as new architecture surely accompanied by new socket but at least still backward compatible with old chips QUOTE(sai86 @ Aug 25 2010, 12:52 AM) WTF!!! There goes my ahsus croshair IV formula This post has been edited by cloudwan: Aug 25 2010, 01:02 AM |
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Aug 25 2010, 06:16 AM
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Aug 25 2010, 01:45 AM) is that means 1 module is 1 "real core"? To paint a clearer picture this is how bulldozer chip would look like, they won't really count 1 module as 1 core but instead as 2 cores and inside the 1 "real core" have 2 "sub core"? so 1 "real core" can run 2 threads? so this is how the amd multi threading looks like? ![]() ![]() It's an ingenious way to shrink the every core size by having each pair of cores sharing some component together.. Traditional core is just like on the right: ![]() Only time will tell if their method is gonna beat inhell methods Here's hoping they do |
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Aug 25 2010, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Aug 25 2010, 06:45 AM) Ya lor, that's one part people forget to mention, reading a few source saying that the IMC may get a few boost in terms of:Bulldozer 1. Native support of 18xxMhz DDR3 2. Quad channel memory Bobcat 1. Native support of 18xxMhz DDR3 2. Only dual channel QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 25 2010, 09:08 AM) if there's any "like" button like in fb, this post will have my "like". good post there bro, just that too much to digest after heavy breakfast... :/lol: Hahaha, kata x main FB? How come u know like button? any update for d gu? i just tried lastnite (@ my fren's place), 1800 @ 7-8-7 need a whoopin 1.71v... no wonder he keep havin workers stopped @ 18xx... in order to do a gu, d dark choco need ~1.8v i think... :/sweat: :/x need not to worry bout where to dispose ya chiv, u can always mail it to me maa... u still have my address rite? :/hehe: :/P No update yet, tarik handbrake sekejap coz sibuk playing starcraft II So ur saying that the team dark need that much volt eh to get it stable at 18xx? Hmmmm if i do the same to my ram will have the same effect ker? Gotta try this.. Hahahaha u opportunistic unker, suke suki mau kasi terbang sana chiv, IF and i emphasize IF i really get bulldozer lah bro, if not » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Aug 25 2010, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(warlove3 @ Aug 25 2010, 11:13 AM) hei guys, 1055T have a temp sensor problem right?, i've tried to oc to 4.3ghz, it booted well but the it drops to 7.5x multiplier when i ran up prime after the temps sensor on the motherboard shoots up to 72'C. What cooler do u use for oc bro? I have no prob going above that just using air cooling.. Temp never reached 70c so should i get WC in order to get 4ghz stable? Note: I have done with lower bus speed and higher multiplier, same problem exist, high temp and auto reduce multiplier. Note2: and based on the limitation of my ram, highest i can achieve is 333mhz bus speed. (the picture below is the only stable speed i can get with 1.3250v [voltage based on motherboard settings] anything above that voltage/multiplier will have serious temp issues) Don't tell me ur using stock HSF |
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Aug 25 2010, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 25 2010, 03:29 PM) how long that AM3+ can survive pulak.. All cpu manufacturers are looking to change their socket for 2011, intel & amd the same..i thought just recently only the good AM3 mobo flooded to our market.. now need to be replaced.. Still to me its ok lah that if amd is changing their socket, bulldozer is practically a brand new architecture, so we can't expect them to still stick using a socket that is derived from a socket launch in 2006 (AM2+).. Still these new cpu's are expected to be launched in 2011, 1Q or 2Q is still not clear, whenever that is, by that time socket AM3 would already been 2 years already |
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Aug 25 2010, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Aug 25 2010, 04:03 PM) QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 25 2010, 04:12 PM) Hahahaha the waiting game, susah2 beli cheapest cpu & mobo like ah_khoo, then pool ur moneyh and buy ur bulldozer ker JCB ker lori tanah ker next year |
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Aug 25 2010, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Aug 25 2010, 06:12 PM) agreededed..kekek Why must my name came up and am3 chip is physically fit into am2 mobo.. just i dont think mobo manufacturer want to make it support am3 chip.. but to have am3+ socket that able to work with older proc is just fine.. not totally have to overhaul the PC..at least able to salvage the main brain,and change bulldozer later after. for those that low in budget la..if like cloudwan, throw away thuban straight away angkut bulldozer.. btw [attachmentid=1746983] btw..im happy this able to boot.. We'll see soon enough nxt year whenever will that be, i'm more than happy if they even launch a thuban 32nm version as a stopgap so that older AM3 users aren't left out |
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Aug 25 2010, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Aug 25 2010, 09:53 PM) got rumor ke 32nm? Right now u got no money can say things like that but when u got it silap2 aiseben terus eleh.. u, even last time x4 not fully utilize jump to 6cores also.. and i believe most ppl here is enough with 2cores..but.... itu sume nafsu i have no passion like u cloudwan.so kenot..hold that torch urself.kekeke. also no money..kekeke Added on August 25, 2010, 11:11 pm QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 25 2010, 12:11 PM) OT» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by cloudwan: Aug 25 2010, 11:11 PM |
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Eh? Suda tuka avatar, hampir2 x kenal
Hmmm go for GIGABYTE 890GPA-UD3H RM509 bro, 8x/8x CF Why don't u try CF on ur current mobo 1st bro, see if 16x/4x really would be a bottleneck or not.. Depending on the game, CF 5770 also naise |
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Aug 26 2010, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 26 2010, 02:12 PM) YEAH!! Got myself a MSI 790FX-GD70 brand new for RM420 only CV6149 this is more 3 years warranty. Last unit as stated in thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1538062 Naise buy there shinjite This post has been edited by cloudwan: Aug 26 2010, 02:15 PM |
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Aug 27 2010, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(louislkw @ Aug 27 2010, 01:10 PM) Can can, wait till I have 95W thuban. Sell you 1090t or 1055t 95w? Haha. Maybe its will here sometimes later. Hahaha, sokong that, wait till ur 55 then can talk about retiring bro, right now we old people are only in semi-retirement phase CPF, u think too much. Wait till you are 55 first, till your last day still cant fully draw out the sums. |
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