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post Jul 3 2010, 08:34 AM

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I believe there is a limit to what you sell and how much you can sell. There are only so many tables in the food court, not everyone eat yours. Considering 10-20% customer comes to the food court to eat your food is a healthy estimate figure.

Example:

Food court:
50 tables x 4 round per day (Morning, Lunch, Dinner and Supper) = 200 tables. (Do not include those tea time.)

200 tables x 3 person per table = 600 people. (Most people comes in 2 - 4) If your food court is near uni/college, you can put 4 people.

600 x 10% = 60 person.

60 person x RM 4 (average food) = RM 240.

RM 240 x 30 days = RM 7.2k

This serves as a guideline for you to estimate your sales figure. Please change the number to suit your needs.

I estimate based on food court. Do not include those which park their lorry beside the restaurant or others.
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post Jul 3 2010, 02:29 PM

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People people. Let's us to go to the basics. Don't tell TS that this hawker earn XX money and raise how many kids, buy how many cars, earn how much property etc. Give him facts, not stories. Stories will motivate him, but it doesn't teach him how to become like them.

All he needs to know is how feasible it is to be a hawker.
Let's say he is selling Bak Kut Teh with normal portion, normal taste at a normal flow of customer. And with that how much can be earn (based on estimation). Of course more pork, good sup, busy customer etc is just the bonus point.




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post Jul 3 2010, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Cassidy90 @ Jul 3 2010, 04:05 PM)
hi edyek

Yes, you got me. Guys in this case:

"Let's say he is selling Bak Kut Teh/Noodles/Rice with normal portion, normal taste at a normal flow of customer. And with that how much can be earn (based on estimation)" - Anyone knows? Or have heard of other hawkers' earnings??? Please share here.

All I need to know is basically the profit(net) of a hawker with average business and a hawker with good business. Of course I will take note on becoming a good hawker, like not give too less ingredients or serve something that is not delicious and so. Thanks
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As I've replied in the previous thread.

Example:

Food court:
50 tables x 4 round per day (Morning, Lunch, Dinner and Supper) = 200 tables. (Do not include those tea time.)

200 tables x 3 person per table = 600 people. (Most people comes in 2 - 4) If your food court is near uni/college, you can put 4 people.

600 x 10% = 60 person.

60 person x RM 4 (average food) = RM 240.

RM 240 x 30 days = RM 7.2k

Expenses that you need to deduct:
1) Rental
2) Workers and your wages
3) Everyday / monthly ingredient expenses (Vegetable, Meat, Spices, Gas, etc)


From here you can access your income based on the estimation you have made.
1) You can access whether your food is sellable in the morning, lunch, dinner or supper. Some food are sellable when it is morning time (Rarely someone eats steak during morning time, yes?). Some is only for dinner and supper. Some is suitable for whole day(Char kuey teow, bak kut teh etc).

2) You can access whether the place you decide to rent has enough traffic flow. What kind of customer it has? Office workers? Students? Mixed? Nearby residential families?
If it targets office workers, then you need to prepare the food that is for morning and afternoon (e.g. economic rice). Max your income based on this two session.

3) You can access your food price. Adjust to the price that will cover your expenses and overhead and of course with profit. And most importantly, customer feels comfortable when paying for your food.


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post Jul 3 2010, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Felice821 @ Jul 3 2010, 08:03 PM)
How I know, coz that hawker is my uncle ... hehe!!

Even my father also hawker, but seriously I don't know the fact how the profit comes from ... 1 things good about hawker is "CASH term"!
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Your uncle is rich, but whether he get rich as you claimed he was through hawker is still a question mark. Maybe he invest in property, stock etc to get rich? As I've said in my earlier post, don't misguide TS by saying doing hawker can have "3 properties; the most expensive is 700k ... got 4 cars .... ". No offence. icon_rolleyes.gif

You are right about the 2nd part. Yes, hawker business is cash term business. Which is why it is a good business as long as you are there to do it.
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post Jul 4 2010, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Jul 4 2010, 09:20 AM)
yes......

but sadly.... many also work hard and yet to be succesful... they work harder than the succesful one
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True. But most hawker only work hard but not smart enough. Purely depending on hawker biz is not the answer. How many can strike rich due to its good food? Most hawkers just have an average income. Some are smart enough to invest in property, stock, funds n etc.

QUOTE(howszat @ Jul 4 2010, 12:13 PM)
Which really means that how much other hawkers can earn has very little relevance to what you can earn.

There are way too many variables involved, and it's very different for each individual.
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True enough. smile.gif
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post Jul 5 2010, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(pinkantelope @ Jul 5 2010, 07:29 PM)
given that generation nowadays are more enterprising, whereby they are more willing to try in search of the answer than to keep guessing. after all, failing which doesn't cost their lives and if it's successful it will be beyond his/her wildest dream. many successful people in business started off with no knowledge and experience, holding on to their idea armed only with guts.
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Some people just hold on too long without knowing they have wasted their time, and when they realized it, they think they are too old for anything.

Many successful people nowadays start off with a little/half/more knowledge and experience. These days many business is about speed, planning, stragically carrying out the plans, etc. Those days without knowledge and experience and yet be successful in business is our grandpa days, and those days are getting lesser. smile.gif


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post Jul 13 2010, 08:35 PM

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Seriously, it all narrows down to the person him/herself for being what they want to be, and go where they want to go, or just stay inside their comfort zone. smile.gif
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post Jul 23 2010, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(tothebest @ Jul 23 2010, 12:25 AM)
any can help me with applying goverment hawker lisence?
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It is easy. Just go to your local council and ask them how to register hawker license. They will give you a checklist or guideline on how to apply it.
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post Jul 24 2010, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jul 24 2010, 11:54 AM)
It is lower. It says AVERAGE. Many hawker in KL also can NOT meet RM3000 Nett!
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Right. Average hawkers is around 1k-3k. Some even below 1k.
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post Jul 24 2010, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(ivan.nickivan @ Jul 24 2010, 12:42 PM)
hi edyek

Since you've been in business for long. I have some questions

1) Averagely a hawker's earning is about 1 to 3k, and by that it means that those who are earning 8k is really making good profits? But I've also seen myself that there are many who are making ard 5 to 6k in nett profits per month. Could it be perhaps we forumers are estimating instead of having the right figure as most of the hawkers would prefer to be secretive on their earnings? I do not mean to say that every hawker is earning good. They give me an impression by driving Japanese made cars and living in good locations.

2) I am sure you've been to some food court in Subang or KL, with that good numbers of traffic, I am sure 5 to 6k shouldn't be a problem less all expenses including rentals(which is higher). Otherwise it would be hard for them to survive the expenses which largely goes to the rent and staffs.

3) Recently, been told by a friend that a friend of hers been operating a stall selling claypot in a kopitiam. Who is currently earning 6 to 7k as in nett, I believe a kopitiam traffic is not as many as food court and so. So can this a reliable source, as in can I believe the story?
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1) Avearge means those with average traffic flow. Normal food at normal stall. Earning 8k nett, is really a good profit (earn even more than average office employee). RM 5-6k is consider as a good income for those hawkers settle at good traffic flow of customer. The one you saw by driving Japanese cars are just some examples? People tend to listen more on success stories rather than not sucess stories. People are rather excited by listening to someone telling them that A hawker earns 10k and drive Benz. But have they heard of people telling them that, B hawker earn peanuts per month, drive lousy van, stay at a wooden kampung house? That why we always see those hawkers are rich because we always refer to those hawkers that are RICH!

2) Yes, I believe those hawkers at SS15 (Asian food court, was this the name? Nearby the Taylors college) will be able to make around that figure.

3) Normal kopitiam with normal traffic flow, will not earn RM 6-7k nett per month, I only believe in gross profit. However, if the kopitiam has good traffic flow, morning till night time has 80% full house, then I shall believe RM 6-7k is possible.

It is easy to estimate the the profit of hawkers, as they make buy products to make into another products to sell. There is always the expenses and profit there for us to monitor.
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(angelsinlove @ Aug 9 2010, 06:20 PM)
I have a friend who is knowledgeable in the F&B industry, I used to seek his advice and guidance long before. Seems like there are many people asking me for advice now, I was wondering if I could suggest my friend to provide a one to one guide for newbies who are interested in setting up F&B business for a nominal fee. I am still considering but would like to know if anyone would be interested?

Perhaps for a fee between RM200 to RM250 maybe from A to Z. Perhaps to include a list of suppliers/business know how/Insights into other players and etc.

Only for F&B business. Even if it's not for your business use it could be a place for you to learn about F&B. If many are supportive of this idea, I will proceed discussing with my friend. Any feedback or suggestions to add to the guide are welcome. thx
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Should be good. List down what to learn from A to Z. So that people can see whether it is worth the money. smile.gif

 

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