But nobody (In this thread at least) cares if it was just the bnet ID (Like with any other forum for the matter)... The bigger issue was with the fact that your real name is on the forum, thus meaning your privacy is compromised.

You're really barking up the wrong tree here.

i ask u a very simple question, if u dun reveal other personal information about urself online how can people track u down?
very simple cast of internet security...

Well, let's not go into bickering anyway, let's way to see how it's implemented.

But it's definitely something that makes me uneasy....

It really isn't about whether they can track you down (And a name is actually more than enough). Its an invasion of privacy.

Imagine if you went to a restaurant and they insists you provide your fullname before you can eat. That's a bit unheard of isn't it?

is proves that u are not reading the whole FAQ or bluepost to begin with or the same case with several other ppl...
try to understand the whole context and not jz pinpoint any lines alone...

people here has been saying about ppl u know in game tracking ur bnet ID then stalking u in real life etc...
none of which are really true...

if u have accepted the privacy agreement, it already means u are conforming to their way of handling ur private information...
if u dun like how ur private information is revealed, then do not accept it...

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Added on July 7, 2010, 6:11 pmwhy is the an invasion of privacy WHEN YOU ACCEPT the company's way of using ur personal information?
if u accept it means u are already fine with it...
if they breach it then by all means sue them...

its the same as how facebook apps are using ur personal data/ pics etc...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Jul 7 2010, 06:20 PM

You had underestimated the power of internet.... if you're active on internet, you will somehow leaked some of your personal info, intentionally or not. With your full real name.... tracking you down is not as hard as you think.
And, as H@H@ said, your real name is already a privacy issues.


This post has been edited by SyokVPN: Jul 7 2010, 06:15 PM

try to know more about the study of privacy issues on the internet...
if ur information somehow leaked on the internet, its not ur firstname/ lastname issue but rather that leaked source itself...

see post Post #185 btw

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Jul 7 2010, 06:15 PM

Yes... thats the point.. i dont want Blizzard games become one of it.

evofantasy is your alias right? why don't you use your real name to register LYN forum?

cause i chose not to reveal it on LYN?
i did reveal it on facebook so wut's wrong?
i've even posted a screenshot of my bnet with my first name...
as i've said, i'm fine with it...

again, its not a leak when u have agreed to the usage terms of ur private information...

Ok, we're clearly arguing with differing opinions.

It doesn't really matter whether its in their privacy agreement or not. We are arguing solely on whether its a good move or not. No one here is actually accusing Blizzard of doing anything illegal. We're just not happy with this as it is an invasion of ppls privacy just to accomplish a rather unachievable goal.

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Added on July 7, 2010, 6:20 pmJust because you choose to show little regard for your own privacy, doesn't mean others have to do the same. And at the end of the day, it was *you* yourself that posted those things. It wasn't because you were forced to just so you could post in a forum.

This move is fairly unnecessary (Even their justification is fairly unfounded) and seems to be doing more harm than good. That's the point.

This post has been edited by H@H@: Jul 7 2010, 06:23 PM

when u actually looked into the issue of privacy then u would realize that revealing first/last name is not an issue at all (part of my research for the web system i'm working on)...
after all its not a unique identifier of any means...

i do regard my privacy, i know what i should reveal and what i should not reveal as well as where to reveal them...
i dun allow facebook apps to reveal my profile and adjusted them via the privacy settings...

I don't find anything wrong with it. This might not be a good example, but take it like you're entering a foreign country. You either provide them your passport with your full name & photo in it or you risk GTFO.

It's the same on the forum & it's for the same reason. People are hiding behind their anonymity to perform all kinds of mischief, trolling & con. Of course, you can choose not to post in the forum, hence saving you all this trouble but again, how many times did you shout "it's privacy invasion" when you're at the immigration?

Of course, I really do doubt the EFFECTIVENESS of such move but what I don't get is the commotion you guys are having. As mentioned by Blue, you have the option not to link your IGN ID so it's not really like a passport where your name have to match your photo. Did you provide your full name when you register at local bank or local mobile service provider? Well, guess what? They do share your info around & I didn't see anyone going FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU or doing anything about it other than ranting about it in /k/. Let's face it, your real life name is not a good identifier in the first place. Take a good look in our local telephone directory. Why did no one shout the same since the address & phone# is inside as well?

Label me as sucking up to Blizz or whatever (even if I say I'm not, you guys are still gonna say I am anyway), but you're basically arguing over something that most of you never use as well. How many of you have ever touched Bnet forum? Hands up.

It has come to the situation where I seriously think BW v2 is really what Blizz should have come up with to end all these rantings.

This post has been edited by talexeh: Jul 7 2010, 06:32 PM

Again, that is YOUR assumption. Not everyone is like you, not everyone has the same respect or need to have that much (Or little) privacy as you. Is it that hard to accept that?

Having your real name known can be a real kick in the nuts depending on the situation your in. Like how if someone finds out your real name (Which may be very unique) and then discovers that you're an avid blogger who just wishes to keep gaming and blogging as separate entities... That's no longer possible. Anonymity IS optional but it should be at the hands of the individual, not some company who wants to keep their forum clean.

Its the same reason why it is *MY* right to walk around *NOT* having to wear a nametag with my name on it.

not to say that i 100% like the changes...
but some people just made assumptions without even reading the announcement (blue post) or the FAQ itself...

as u said, when u have accepted their terms then why are u complaining?
wut more over simple non-unique such as ur name (newspapers etc do reveal ur name)

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Added on July 7, 2010, 6:34 pmput it this way: if u dun like it, do not accept the 'agreement' regarding ur privacy information. FULL STOP

simple rite?
when in rome, do wut the romans do...

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Added on July 7, 2010, 6:38 pmagain from the blue post (as well as by telexeh) "with the option to also display the name of their primary in-game character alongside it"

no one force u to associate ur game IGN into ur forum post...
thus no one is stopping u from playing the game without revealing ur personal information...

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Added on July 7, 2010, 6:39 pmanother blue post by Bashiok

"One important point which I don't believe has been relayed yet is that the switch to showing RealID on the forums will only happen with the new forum systems we're launching for StarCraft II shortly before its release, and a new forum system for World of Warcraft launching shortly before the release of Cataclysm.

All posts here on the current World of Warcraft forums, or any of our classic Battle.net forums, will remain as-is. They won't (and can't) automatically switch to showing a real first and last name.

All posts in the future on the new forum systems will be an opt-in choice and ample warning will be given that you're posting with your real first and last name."

again, NO ONE IS FORCING IT...
in \k\ style, "u tak suka, u keluar" or "if u dun like it, dun join it"...
its now everything that u can eat the cake and have the cake

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Jul 7 2010, 06:43 PM

You can't compare entering a country / handling account / mobilephone with going into an online forum.

Both too different to compare.

hey guise, what did i miss here while i am actually working?

big discussion on the possible new bnet forum (note the new word) with ur bnet firstname/lastname

I've to agree that it's not really an accurate comparison but what I'm trying to highlight here is the apparent phobia of identity crisis among some of us here.

I also have to agree that from the look of it, I sincerely think that this is not an effective method but we've yet to see how it goes so I'll reserve my opinion about it. The reason I'm using the entering-foreign-country example is due to what I believe to be Blizz's attempt at policing the forum to prevent as much undesirable element / content as possible, which kinda fit the metaphor that I provided earlier.

But again, most of the hoo-haa here is not about the effectiveness. It's about the fear of revealing too much of yourself in the Bnet forum. Maybe I should put these up in point form for easier comprehension.

1. For your realID to be displayed in the open in the first place, you need to post something. But how many of us has posted something in the troll-infested Bnet forum in the past?

2. Fine, you may not have posted before but you might do so in future. But allow me to ask, what exactly do you fear when all you're going to reveal is your first & last name? That someone might implicate you of wrongdoings in the forum? Does that mean that you're seriously planning to troll / con in the new Bnet forum?

3. Again, if you're saying that revealing your first & last name will somehow allow some strangers to look for you IRL, what is the chance of that happening? I would like to refer to the inappropriate (I still think it's a related example) telephone directory where you can clearly see almost all applicants' address & telephone#. Let's say you've lost contact with an old friend of yours who have moved to Kedah but you're not sure which area he's staying at. You open up the book & search for his name, only to see 245 applicants with the same name. What?! You're gonna have to call each & every single one of them just to look for your friend but what is the chance of someone doing so in the first place? It's quite a hassle & troublesome, no? What I'm trying to show here is that having just the first & last name as a search criteria is not very sufficient to pinpoint the right person.

I repeat again, I'm not trying to prove that realID is a good solution to the trollings (if this is indeed what Blizz is trying to eliminate) but it's the rantings among us about having the realID revealed in forum.

Peace out.

This post has been edited by talexeh: Jul 7 2010, 07:27 PM

It just not a very good way to eliminate trolling plus it is an invasion of privacy issue.

Besides I am probably the only forumer who uses my real name as my nick so yeah. Frankly, I can't be bothered with it. If people wanna pick a real fight with me, bring it on. Gotta use the weight training for something eh?

Rumor: StarCraft II boxed copies out in the wild?
Posted Jul 7th 2010 7:00AM by John Callaham
Filed under: Culture, Multiplayer, RTS, Starcraft II


While StarCraft II isn't supposed to go on sale until July 27 it appears that boxed copies of Blizzard's highly anticipated sci-fi RTS game have found their way to at least a few people. GameVideos.com has posted up a video (which was originally found on a Chinese web site) that appears to show the contents of the Collector's Edition of the game being examined by someone who is clearly not a Blizzard employee.

The video also shows said person attempting to install the game on his PC but is unable to do so due. It looks like Blizzard's DRM set up is locking out people who get the game early and try to install it until the July 27 launch date. However we do have to wonder how long it will be before pirated copies of StarCraft II start showing up on the internet.