Hallo brother Ice Cube....

Yeah...I just did foaming and share my thoughts here.
I am more for comfort guy,...so personally I got mixed feelings on the result.
On highway and smoother stretch of road,...I like it,...but on more bumpy road, ride become harsher.

The reason I wrote very lengthy explanations is not against any shops or whatever,...
my main purpose is to share in good description what it is exactly like doing foaming.

Before I did it,...going thru other forums, I found a few things, no offense -

- just like political scene, many people can be very easily influenced by general public opinion. When this happens it clouds their actual judgement, and start believing what everyone says, while on the other hand the actual result is different.

Alot of people are promised continental ride quality after foaming,...and start believing it. Especially after they read stuff like travelling at 160km/h feels like 110km/h before and so on......these are all "over-blown statements"...
If you say the after improvement is 130km/h feels like 110km/h,....maybe thats more like it.
Many people confuse firm ride vs. harsh ride quality.
In general, there are so many different types of road conditions we travel through daily (e.g town road bumpiness,..freeway smoothness and so on).
Autofoam gives you a real continental feeling only on certain road conditions,....whereas in other road conditions,..the ride is harsh. I can gurantee you that BMW, Merc and Audi sedan has firm ride,..but on ripples and small bumps all over,..they are not too firm or harsh, even though they have very stiff chassis.
Probably its because of their car heavy weight,...and a different absorber mechanism/ suspension system.
I agree with you and can imagine that Kenari with chassis foaming would have tremendous improvement in handling. Well, Kenari in its original form with tall body,...definitely have very huge amount of flex...
Glad that you enjoyed it...
Anyway,...the bottomline is that,....I just want to give a detailed, real and unbiased experience to guys who wish to do foaming. Because I do realise that finding good experience is hard on the forum,..alot of it is diluted and influenced views which does not paint the true picture.

Hi Quazacolt, Samwong,....

I am not trying to pour cold water on this autofoam stuff,...as I had mentioned earlier, I just want to give some neutral view and make sure anyone considering it really knows the implication.
As it is not reversible,...you would not want to regret having to bear with your daily transport for many years to come before selling it off.

What I suggest for anyone considering doing it is to do a test on someone's car who did autofoam,...do a real "apple to apple comparison"....

Lets say for you Sam, with your Persona,...find someone with a Persona who had done it....
A car with same wheels and rim configuration,,....with same stock absorber and spring. When you do comparison,...you really need to do a side by side with your own car....
P/S - do make sure that the benchmark car you are looking for is at least 10 days after autofoam,....because initially the harshness is bearable, but as the foam starts hardening, so do the chassis stiffness,...and so do the ride quality become harder....Don't test on a car that is fresh from autofoam oven...i.e,..who just did it same day or only a day after.

Do make sure you test it over several different road conditions,...eg. -
- highway type of road
- town road with small imperfections along the way...
- bumpy roads...
- roads with alot of connection to "bridge" with different levels...

Do it side by side,...then you can really tell whether you like it or you think you cannot bear with the increased overly firmness or harshness.
Don't just test it on only one type of road conditions,...because if you test it on only the super smooth highway road,...you definitely will love the autofoam treatment.
But in real life,....for most people,...they travel thru many different road conditions on a daily basis...

In my personal opinion, most of our mainstream cars like City, Persona,..Vios, ..Altis have more of less same characteristics of flexing chassis,...and the chassis flex actually is part of the bump absorption that improves ride quality. But there is also chances that I may be wrong in the sense that a Vios is badly impacted,...while Persona's ride quality not so much affected.
I had read that Altis who did Autofoam also has same complain of harshness.

So bottomline is that,...if you really still want to consider it,....find someone with exactly the same car to do an exact apple to apple comparison with your car.

Else,...it is a risk for you to take if you can't find a benchmark comparison.

Relying on others' opinion are just too risky without testing by yourself. Just an example,..I do know someone who is a real confident speaker,...who tells me his family's Avanza ride quality is good,...yet complains that the latest Mercedes E-class ride is not comfortable....
I am just giving this example just to warn you about the danger of relying blindly on opinions...

Cheers.

WOW so much happening here.  Must come in more often.

Very interesting....we hava someone here selling his own Foam ( probably house-hold type) product, advertising his product in another thread here on 22/8/11 and another stating he is not fully satisfied with his AutoFoam-ed car on 24/8/11.

All seems a bit too ???..... if i were the suspicious type?

OK, lets look at everything in Good Faith and constructively. Our motto is to Always Have Happy Customers ...

Cuckoo Bird,

You find the Vios too "stiff" after you did AutoFOAM Comfort and B pillars.
1) This is strange coz this are the areas where the latest BMW 7 series are treated.
2) We apply our Original formula ( 27kg/cbm) here which is the lower density formula to improve Ride Comfort. This has been Proven since 2001. Even Saladin Mazlan finds his Subaru Rally car more "comfortable" after Comfort package. Petronas Adventure Team (PAT) used us for their Expedition trucks.
For those interested , we have 2 formulas , ORIGINAL and RACE( 45kg/cbm) for different sections of the car for specific purpose.

Some "Dr. House" questions to help me help you...
1) Are you on Stock suspension? Is so, how OLD? ( yr car is older than 3 years, rite?)
2) Do you have additional Bars esp. lower body bars?
3) Did you come by and check with us after you experience this as sometimes we need to remove excess foam which may seep into certain suspension parts.

Kindly contact me and set up a appointment for us to help rectify your problem asap.
( Yes, it can be done ...by Experienced professionals ppl who have been doing it for the last 12 years.)

BukanMain,

What is your Vios friend not happy about?
I read he is on Coilovers. As we all know, most Coilovers are really NOT suitable for our great Msian roads.
If he is not happy with his Ride Comfort, he should look at his COIL-OVERS first.
Kindly inform your friend to pop by for us to check for Over-flow.

For those looking to upgrade or improve their rides...

AutoFOAM , Soundproofing alone can help make cars Quiet-ER, M.O.R.E. Comfortable BUT will NOT transform a Vios to a BMW. ( i wish it could...i will be Rich. Every car manufacturer will want me. )

Good Tires WITH Proper Alignment, well designed Suspension from reputable international brands like TRD, KONI FSD, Bilstein, Ohlins can help make cars Bet-TER but will still NOT transform a Vios to BMW.
Warning: Cap Ayams or un-tested brands or products..normally give adverse effect.

But ALL or ANY of the above mods will HELP you Enyoy your Ride More...till you buy your BM.

Cheers,

Desmond Chong
KL AUTO
017 282 3073
www.autofoam.com.my

ps. We have the following AutoFOAMed cars for test.. feel free to Test any of these,,
1) totally stock Persona with stock Silverstone tires
2) a noisy exhaust Stock Satria
3) a toally stock Auntie Myvi ( must book first)
4) the first batch of AutoFOAMED cars  treated in 1999, Volvo 850 T5. ( to prove the durability of genuine AutoFOAM)
5) Sports suspension BMW e36. Treated in 2003.
6) TRD suspension Estima.

Sure.
Pop by and try Loong's AutoFOAMed Track packaged car. He will take you through our little "test-track" where you will find  ALL KL's worst roads  for you to feel.

Loong's Persona is FULLY AutoFOAMed. If AutoFOAM really makes a car harsher, his Persona should feel like a Tractor .
Go through the route, then take your car through the same and you decide.

However, if your car is New, i suggest you do NOT do anything for 2 weeks to fully understand and feel your new baby. You may even enjoy it so much, you may find you do Not need to do any enhancements.

But do come by and test our Persona....then you will know how Much better a Persona can be.

Cheers,

Des
KL AUTO
www.autofoam.com.my