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oriongoh
post Nov 30 2011, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Nov 9 2011, 03:27 PM)
the foam i was shown is both the blue and white one.

haven't cure? almost half a year now.

i'm asking for end users feedback, I don't know if its memang like that or mine got issues before i go back to KL Auto. but honestly I don't feel any noticeable difference.

EDIT: both the foam i was shown was hard, the foam in my car is not.
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i did mine about a month back and the change was drastic.i Drive a Chery eastar which is an MPV.I doubted and was thinking about DIY before going to KL AUTO .I was shown samples of foam just like u i guess.The difference is i felt the soft and hard.The outer layer which is the crust is hard just like what i saw coming out from my car and i have the sample that drop from my car at home.After breaking through the crust come the softer part which was the same material as of what i dig out of their bottle sample.Maybe you should bring back the car and compare and raise your dissatisfaction to desmond.

Today just had a test drive after doing my A pillar and surprisingly the engine sounded a bit further plus lower wind noise.I still need to go over again to see what can be done to bring the wind noise even lower.Maybe we can meet up when at desmond place hehehe.


Added on December 1, 2011, 9:33 am
QUOTE(andrewsh @ Nov 29 2011, 10:04 PM)
Yes, like what you said, there is no one solution cure all.  Car suspension system is a complicated stuff, its behavior is affected by temperature, car loading, tyre pressure, spring and absorber type.  For example the car suspension feel different between early in the morning and in the hot afternoon.  Personally I prefer my car behave in the afternoon where the tyre has heated up and the suspension is more responsive.  Even with autofoam installed into the car, the same principle applies except that the stronger chassis will make the suspension to behave as it should be.

As for car loading, with autofoam installed, I find my Wish rides better when all my family member(2 adults and 4 kids) are inside the car.  The extra weight does bring out the advantage of having a stiffer chassis.  I believe this is what the original design intent of MPV to carry more load.  On the other hand I do feel the ride is harder when I drive along but the handling is still good.  So I have no regret with autofoam as this is what I expect it to behave.
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I have a different thought as i didnt expect anything so no standard set in mind.The moment the foam was done i was shock how a car could be transform with just foam.I paid 80k for a car that perform like one and added alittle to make it better but instead the little brought me a new car hehehehe.


This post has been edited by oriongoh: Dec 1 2011, 09:33 AM
oriongoh
post Dec 2 2011, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(andrewsh @ Dec 1 2011, 09:13 PM)
As your Chery Eastar is a bigger car then mine, the improvement is definitely more which is a good thing.  Let us enjoy our new transformed ride.  Now I am thinking whether do more foam on B and D pillar.
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I have the same thing in mind hehehehe.still in the thingking plus the sills.


Added on December 2, 2011, 9:29 amThis posting was found missing in it's original place and i thought it might be helpful information or as a guidance on what to expect if you use industrial foam.I wouldn't use the word imitation as it's not just 2 different product for different use.
I'm lucky to have went straight to KL Auto and also lucky enough to view the industrial foam from under the owner car even touching it. Below is the posting i got refered to by a friend from another web.

Guys,

I feel compelled for a short review and some advices. I was one of the earlier batch who performed the EA chassis foaming. If you dig out this thread, I mentioned that I don't feel any difference at all.

If you DON'T feel any difference, trust your instict. Something is not right. My advice is, have your car jacked up at any workshop and check for missed section or a possibly a shrinking foam. Check it for yourself (even if you do feel the difference, just double check, it's your car). There are many holes you can see and test on the chassis beam (open the rubber that cover the chassis hole), make sure all is properly foamed. See the picture below, one hole were covered with the foam, but the other hole is empty!. This is very important. You don't want water to be trapped and your chassis gets rusty!

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I dully accept IceCube previous explaination that I don't feel the difference because I just bought the car. I accept that until yesterday I gave Desmond a visit at KLAuto (the infamous? shop at Jln Ipoh).

Since I was there anyway, I take the chance to have Desmond and the team to inspect the car chassis, and to my surprised, the foam was not fully done to extend to some section (I remember bro Arj he went back to Kevin's to rectify some missing section too). Many sections are left empty! This is a blessing in disguise as well since I can then still have the chance for Desmond team to inject their AutoFoam (which is expensive, yes). I was skeptical but then I can really feel the difference after that! It was correctly done!

Chassis foaming, if performed correctly, would yield significant results even after a few hours. You can really feel the difference. There's no need to struggle to 'feel' it and eventually you'll fall for a placebo effect to justify your spending.

I feel so dissapointed, should just pay more and do it right the first time at KLAuto. About the foam quality, no i don't feel it's the same. I checked on a 6 year old+ AutoFoam-ed Subaru, with my recently put EA foam, it's different. But then this has been debated by many people here and the other thread, I rest my case. Use your judgement. Many has been said by many people already. I'm just a silly guy who bought my first car. What do I know right.

I'm sorry Kevin, you guys seems like a bunch of honest guy. This is just my honest 2 cent opinion and experience. I hope I will not get into trouble for writing a negative review but I think many needs to be warned just in case someone face the same issue.

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This post has been edited by oriongoh: Dec 2 2011, 09:29 AM
oriongoh
post Dec 4 2011, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(Kirie @ Dec 2 2011, 09:07 PM)
another alternative

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2098879&hl=

the canister looks like the same as been sold by bro IceCube..

and i just sms the seller, he said this foam is same material with KL Auto AUTOFOAM..  whistling.gif
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I know the material used.I can supply if anyone wants to DIY hehehe half the price mention no problem.just pm even for you kirie.DIY i like but sorry only for something i have confidence in and also don't like tested and DIYed on.


Added on December 4, 2011, 9:32 am
QUOTE(Kirie @ Dec 3 2011, 08:41 PM)
test at easy area 1st la..A B C pillars..areas that water cant go inside it
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I cannot test cause got sunroof sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

This post has been edited by oriongoh: Dec 4 2011, 09:32 AM

 

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