I think different car after foaming will get different results.
Some cars are with multi-link suspension, some with torsion beam.
Some cars are made with sporty setup some are just family car setup.
Some car uses 'harder' steel some are not.

So how can the results be the same ?? Or satisfactory to all ??

But one thing is for sure, if they car has too much of too much body roll then definitely need it

This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jul 28 2019, 11:58 AM

That’s the whole point. KL auto guys are just bunch of ppl not qualified and trained. They won’t know anything more abt car design compared with any one out there. All their knowledge is from magazines, and “own theory”.
So in order to make money, they need to add in a lot of snake oil talk.
Sometimes it works as ppl want to believe there are positive results after spending so much.

The stuff they used is most likely 2 part Polyurethane foam. Not the cheap 1 can gap filler foam.



This stuff cures to hardness like concrete. There are marine versions of this as well. That means it is salt water resistant. While these are meant for construction use, does not mean it can't be used "creatively". So filling up gaps in hollow sections of a car could be useful. But if they claim that concrete like hardness is going to translate to increasing overall steel performance and safety, it is going to be a very big concern. I only agree this as a chassis noise dampener, not overall sound dampener, that requires attaching foam panels on to strategic locations like wheel wells and door/ roof panels.

This post has been edited by netmatrix: Jul 28 2019, 12:36 PM

This AF is totally expensive and permanent. What if we want to sell the car, totally add certain criteria of difficulties.

That bobby car reviews is poor, he will said everything great for the free car and all sponsor products. That kl auto is a best salesman person.

if your car already got UR bars, putting this auto foam not going to give big improvement in terms of chassis rigidity, it may reduce some engine noise going into the cabin but when the engine noise is reduced, you will note that other noise will be more prominent

No no. Don't get this wrong. It is not sound insulation. It will reduce chassis noise. That means anything that vibrates through the wheel to the hub to the connecting arms to the bushings to the chassis. Or engine vibration to the chassis. That means the small vibrations that creates noise will be damped or eliminated.

If you want to block off all noise not caused by vibrations use sound dampening foam panels or blocks installed at strategic locations.

More advanced methods makes use of different thickness of metal for welding points on panels to reduce overall noise.

The only thing i do not agree to this foam is increasing safety. Because this product already existed more than 10 years. Not even the company that made the brand of this stuff had a sacrificial car to test and prove their claims. Whats more sending the car to be tested by road safety like ANCAP or Euro NCAP and such.

I am not expert in autofoam but logically thinking. Car manufacturer spend a lot of R&D in fine tuning their cars for stability and cornering. So by default, out of the factory, the cars are tuned to best spec possible from manufacturer. By adding those foam, you are compromising the integrity of the vehicle and might actually more harm than good. Therefore, for me it installing autofoam, need to make sure the installer knows what he is doing. Different cars might need to use different way of installing autofoam. Just my 2 cents.

exactly. klauto has no expertise on vehicle design and dynamics. all just bullshit and snake oil.
but kudos to them for surviving so long and making so much money.

Agreed with your points. If that is true that the kl auto able improve nvh by the foam, proton n perodua should hire those Desmond uncle work with them.

Imagine iriz, persona, alza with nvh like continental made my uncle Desmond

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Jul 29 2019, 08:33 PM

There are still lots of gullible consumers in Malaysia, especially KLANG Valley. Even more so when people are stubborn to listen to feedbacks and just listen to salesmen.

I seriously do not support AUTOFOAM PERIOD!

Consumers got misled because there are many indirect advertisement in the form of paid reviews in youtube, newspapers and i am not surprised, forummers too

the only thing i felt is reduced noise each time the a/c compressor kicks, that's all, in terms of vibration, it should be reduced through use of mountings and bushings, this foam not going to reduce those noises, and yes, i spent rm800 in my alza for this

Actually you can get almost Rolls levels of sound dampening even on a Kancil. But that would mean welding more metal and installing foam sheets that would make the car heavy as hell. Top end cars are not heavy because of the big capacity engine or those thick and deep seats alone. The amount of sound dampening are insane in those cars. And none of it involve injecting stuff between metal crevices. Expensive tires help too.

WTF.. This Autofoam still exist ka? We edi talk this very2 long2 time ago yrs 2002/2003 in ICE section.. now mid 2019 still got people kena Kencing ka?

did you felt less body roll when turning ??

yep, lots of people dont understand how complicated NVH really is.

NVH includes, tire noise, road noise, wind noise, engine noise, gearbox noise, engine + Gearbox + transmission combined vibrations that sort, aerodynamics of car, AC compressor kick in vibration.

not only sound dampening on sheet metal, windscreen glass got to be thick, rubber seals on doors, rubber dampening must be tuned to car resonance frequency, brake distribution, turning features like Mazda GVC all will affect on ride quality.

Agreed

I think Bobby has sold his soul. He used to be very opinionated but now, every car is good. Every product people recommend is good.

Come on, foaming chassis? Do they know where the weak points of the car is? Joke

Bobby is just a platform for advertisement

Dont get me started on Desmond the snake oil salesman

fat bobby and snake desmond needs to do what needs to be done to get money. that's life.

Damn... I thought I had bad experience with Desmond. You too?

He’s seriously an arrogant con artist which survived for so long already and there are many dumb supporters who don’t know shit about the consequences of autofoam to their cars.

I wrote a honest opinion on the YouTube and Bobby just defended Desmond kaw kaw. Seriously, Bobby’s review is just pure advertising material. Same as most of most local car reviews such as paultan! To me, autobuzz still earns my respect to be a proper quality car reviewer.

How about just normal soundproofing and not foaming? Are they good? What I’m afraid is the more they remove the panels the more problems, squeak and rattling it causes.