i get an offer work as customer service at makati philippine...
they offer me 1300 sgd plus 100 sgd air ticket allowance monthly...
they will provide d accommodation but sharing basis...
is it worth to work there???

This post has been edited by sfeisann: Jun 28 2010, 03:32 PM

Makati is the central business district of Phillipine. Standard of living there is comparable to KL. Personally for 1300sgd, I will not work so far away from home.

is it enough to cover the expenses there?
normally one meal cost how much?

Not sure why they're willing to offer you SGD1300, when locals with degrees have starting salary of around SGD500-600 or so (IIRC, considered high for them).
Anyway, I'd pass. According to my ex-colleague in the Phillipines, you have to deal with:

1. Traffic jams. Not the 1 hour KL type, but few hours daily.
2. Crime.

they will provide transport but according from them, accommodation will be near the working place... normally walking distance...
so can cover d expenses according with the salary they provided?

You can try if you're not homesick type of ppl.
At least something to put in your resume next time.

As said prevously standard is comparable to KL. Some things cost more others less. If you want to live an austre life you can save but dont expect much. It is not Japan or other place people go to "jump aeroplance".

not worth, unless u like philippine so much, then u can enjoy working there, if not, better think twice

with 1.3k sgd, why dun u go to work at sg...nearer and the pay higher even without qualification

This post has been edited by Jinx-Z: Jun 29 2010, 04:56 PM

I was in Makati for about 2 months for work assignment...is ur company Mansion88 or something located at PBCom Tower? coz there's alot of call center there and always see malaysia speaking hokkien in the lift...

Actually Makati is quite safe compared with kl but the cost of living there is quite high...one day usually cost me bout 30-40 for my meals...the traffic is bad but usually i walk back to hotel from office so no problem for me...

I think once ur at makati u won like it alot but slowly u'll get to like it...but ur pay seems abit low to go all d way to Makati

still young, can go try man... philipines many call centres & positions available...

but u have to get used to their culture...

I've worked in Makati for awhile albeit not in Call Center. The food in Makati is expensive. Normal meals in food court would cost about RM10.

The service industry is cheap there as they have plenty of cheap labor lying around. A facial would cost about RM40 and a full body massage for 1hr is about RM20 (without tips). Perfect for girls!

SGD1.3 is not worth it, my allowance when I was there is already USD1200 per month and I was put up in a hotel.

license bookie a lot in Philippine^^

Wow, now Msia have to go to Filipins for work.

lol damn funny

SG1300 is just too low to work overseas unless u are totally fresh and cannot find work locally.
Even a clerk in Sing can get more than that.

but think of u have to go that far distance but merely work as CSO

isn't that u can still find plenty of these same jobs locally, which roughly have the same pay?

exactly!
astro cso pay is more than 2k a month. plus the comfort of being at home.
tsr /tmr easily earn more than 3k! depending on performance.

provided that you can made it without being worry of the surrounding
there is no place like...home!

tax will kill u

i guess the offer is normal, working in makati will have you this rate, well how long is the contract. if its 1 - 3 months i think its good, but if for 1 year, heheh, you better think twice. heheh. by the way im a filipino. a lot of filipinos are here in KL having a good work, because opportunity in the phili is a lil bit bad, heheh,

Makati is one of the best cities in the Philippines. If you don't want to spend too much on food then cook and bring it to your office. If your accommodation is near your workplace then walk. It will be good exercise for you.

i had confirm with them n waiting for my air ticket now wo ...
anywhere thanks for d suggestions n advice ...
just treat it as a new experience for my life ...
good luck for me ^^

Nice.
All da best and good luck!

bysquashy, u work for a certain telecommunication vendor?

Well i been Makati Philippines b4 , Indeed i would say the cost of living isn't that cheap for phillipines standards. FOOD is Really Expensive , for some reason . Average decent meal at a normal restaurant is around 200 to 300 Pesos. McDonald Meals are around 160 Pesos , Taxi Ride around Makati is ard 50 to 100p

Well Makati is the business district in manila , basically similar to Malaysia lotsa Call centers & IT Service Hubs , HSBC, Accenture, IBM, are all there , basically exploiting the cheap labor.

The Cyberjaya of Makati is called " Bonifacio Global City "

RM 1 = 13.50 Pesos.
RM75 = 1000 Pesos.

A local Graduate in IT in Philippines earns around 33,000 Pesos a month. 2 Room Apartment Rental in Makati - Bonifacio is around 40K to 60K pesos a month.

[quote=sfeisann,Jun 28 2010, 03:31 PM]
i get an offer work as customer service at makati philippine...
they offer me 1300 sgd plus 100 sgd air ticket allowance monthly...
they will provide d accommodation but sharing basis...
is it worth to work there???

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So how was life in makati?

Have a fren soon will go to Philipines to work. She said in Malaysia she can't get a decent job, with decent pay. Her saving isn't much due to some debts she has to repay monthly. She has worked as hr > purchaser > travel agent. She received an offer letter to work in a USA/Malaysia based company in Philipines recently as a human resource officer with basic usd900. The accommodation and food are covered by the company. As far as I am concerned she didn't really do a research well the pro and cons of working in another country. I did a bit of research through philfaqs.com (a good blog for those who wish to work in Philipines) and well the blogger did provide some useful info.
Usd900 may seem like a great amount when converted to myr however when it comes to using it in Philipines will it be as good?

This post has been edited by kawa_e: Jan 26 2016, 09:13 PM

I was also get a offer to there.
After a bit of negiotiation, the price did reach about 1000USD.
Then, asked them to calculate how much I will be taxed.
The amount I have left with is a bit less than I expected.

Yes the tax. How many percentage of deduction ?

I just know after including the bonus, deduct the accommodation, I managed left with rm1k to survive.
Not including my transport and food expense.

I think ur package is a lil diff from my friend since she has her accomodation and food covered. But still, with tax deduction,etc, i think it would be roughly the same.

For your case, after all the deduction rm1k is quite a small amount >< i mean u need to really watch out on ur daily spending. Honestly not that worth since you are going so far from your home.

Got someone offered me too. USD1000 to go there. But the USD1000 I need to pay for room and dinner. Transport & lunch is covered though. I do not think it is a wise move for me eventhough I am not a home sick person. Is not justifiable for me to go to PH for only USD1000. Not to mention the contract bond that they offer too. It's at least 2 years & 6 months probation.

I have been on business trip in cubao, metro manila. Suffice to say I would dislike to be there again. 2 weeks there was enough, I dont think I could stand for 2 years. Traffic was hell even at 6am. Food and expenses after currency conversion is just like malaysia to me.

Cubao is like a slump area. Better don't walk there on your own. Only go when you have local friend accompanying. If you are not vigilant you may get kidnap. Makati instead is an organise place with international hotels, mega shopping malls spreading all over. You can choose to live there without even have to venture out from there as the developer has design the place to be self sustaining where you can do shopping, watching movie, see doctor, send your children to school within your vicinity.

To work in Manila to me the salary must be significantly higher than what you are getting in Malaysia because as a foreigner, you are an Alien Resident which requires you to pay close to 35% of you salary as income tax.

Wonder why ppl consider the Phils when SG is a much better option.
1. Lots of companies hv their Asia Pac HQ in SG, so work is more hi value than the Phils which is call centre and low end support
2. Cultural fit with MY, similar language, food etc
3. Tax is lower.
4. Can take bus to hometown. No need take plane.

I agree with some points that have been highlighted here.

Tax - income tax depends on annual income but the tax rates are higher (i.e. 32% for earning 44k MYR in PH vs. 25% for earning 84k MYR in MY). There aren't so much tax reliefs (here in MY, we can declare insurance, books, medical expenses, etc.)
Traffic Jam - If Malaysians are complaining already with KL traffic jam, I don't know if you can deal with Metro Manila's (equivalent to Klang Valley) traffic jam.
Food/Accommodation - You can better food/accommodation in MY for the same price.

It would be an enriching experience working in a different country and if it will help your career progress, then why not move? Just do a lot of research before you jump the boat though. All the best.

Because not many SG companies want to take Malaysians as they have foreigner quota to maintain.

Well, go where there is job is.
But in the end, I choose Sg.

Was curious why all the sudden so many get offered a job lately in Phil with the same salary USD1000.
Judging from all the feedback, it seems that working in Phil for a mere USD1000 isnt a worth with tax deduction (>30%)

Definitely not enough. I was careless for not counting in the tax deduction. Luckily I did not accept the offer. I guess for Malaysia it's at least to be USD1500 to consider the offer as the living cost isn't any lower than KL as well.

Can give it a try on SG companies if there's any before considering PH.

Jobs in Phil are booming especially the call centres (they use the term BPO - business process outsourcing there). It has been a booming trend for the past few years already. The government there have studied before that with each call agent job created, it generates 3 additional support jobs in the country.

The country is no oil producer, so with low crude oil pricing now - the operating cost in Phil is cheaper now


Many expatriates are also attracted to go there with base 6mil - 12mil peso per annum + perks for accomodation, driver, schooling (for kids).

Thanks for the info.
Yeah. I just checked the tax deduction in Phil. Alien gets a flat rate deduction of 25% from their income.
What's left only around usd650. But I heard some company will bear the tax deduction. Is that true ?

6-12million? That's MYR500k - MYR1million in conversion. You sure ah? O___o

Yes. You can search expatriate forum that discuss this. Always use USD for expatriate package. RM no value. Pls also deduct income tax for nett pay

Wow, I am interested if there's such salary. But too bad I am in marketing related field. Even I able to converse in Mandarin, don't think can go that high. That's the salary for other field?

Should be some professional skills that Phil country is looking for ?
All docs, nurses gone to overseas and their own country is lacking of these professionals ? Correct me if I am wrong.

There are lots of doctors and nurses in PH. There is an oversupply to the extent that some nurses do "volunteer work" in hospital to gain experience so that they can put in resume when applying abroad. Worst case was they even pay some hospitals just to get in. PH has 100M people so I assure you there is no shortage. Aggressive hiring are call centers. A lot of expats though for MNC also.

I see so its the other way round. Thanks for the info
Hmm just got some details bk from my fren. The company offering her is indeed a call center company. Her offer letter didnt mention any taxation and she said she wont be taxed. She will get nett pay. Seems weird..

This post has been edited by kawa_e: Jan 28 2016, 07:07 PM

That's because the company pay for her tax most likely

Good to hear that if thats true for my fren case. With accommodation + meal + tax covered. hows the career advancement for malaysian expat there ? Is qualification matters ?

You will be sleeping with people half your salary.

Yea that's why it's worth it.. but 1300sgd for you to sleep with some foreigners who make half your salary.. is asking for it.

huh ? where u heard about this ?

This post has been edited by kawa_e: Jan 29 2016, 11:38 AM

Near to Sabah

Most jobs that offer accomodation provided, you will be put into rented apartment. Some are serviced apartment. Otherwise you have to treat your stay in that apartment like 'hostel' style - shared responsibility to maintain them.

Cant really ask for what right since its free.
By the way on the taxation. The alien willbe taxed annually or monthly ?

Just got news from my friend. Being offered as HR officer with 950usd. With fixed allowance and travel allowance. Free accomodation and 2 days meals. 27 days annual leave. Seems so good !

Makati is the only well developed area in manila. Other that that area, its trash.

Fren got a job in aquoz solutions which is a usa based company in makati.

My company in Makati (Manila Business area) is looking for a few Java Developers... if you or your friend is interested, kindly contacts me for more information:

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4239052

Calvin Lai
Skype: calvinlai5678
email: cvlai2000@gmail.com

Thanks

most likely these Makati-based companies that offering job are engaging in online gaming business

it's up to you whether you are ok to work for such industry or not, and if not mistaken, some of them do cover tax, accommodation, and some food allowance; i.e. your offer is almost nett

Anyone working in Makati now? Recently just came over. Any nice food place recommended?

Me but I'm on project so sometimes away from Makati.

brownman90561495 another dude in Makati

i would recommend a good number of places but let me drill it down for you:

Local food
1. Recipes - one of the best Filipino restaurants i've tried. not too all around as they do not offer much dessert.
2. Gerry's Grill - all about grilled food and booze. good recommendation if you're like having a long work week, you take your friends there on a Friday night before you start your weekend.
3. Bacolod Chicken Inasal - chicken inasal is their ace, but they also got other Filipino dishes there. and way more dessert choices (than Recipes)
4. Recovery Food - no branch located in Makati, but there's one in BGC, Taguig (adjacent city of Makati on its east side, just around 10-15 minute worth of normal traffic jam from Makati CBD). they have interesting variants of rice meals there, and you can actually significantly upsize your food serving.

Foreign food
1. Izakaya Kikufuji – Little Tokyo - i haven't eaten here but my gf keeps on bragging me about this place, and she has yet to treat me there.
2. Pho Hoa / My Thai - this is actually a merger. your go to place if you like Vietnamese food or Thai food (or better if both).
3. Hole in the Wall - never tried before, but read some rave reviews about the place (including one from a trusted friend). mostly western food, but also got a few asian food in their menu
4. North Park - if you like chinese food, then this should be on your list. honestly, their quality for me has dropped a bit, but i'd still recommend this.

Halal
PH is a mainly Roman Catholic country, so halal restaurants aren't really as common as non halals, but they shouldn't be hard to find in here. i don't have a personal list, but i quickly googled one for you:
https://www.tripadvisor.com.ph/Restaurants-...nila_Luzon.html
In this list, i was only able to try the food in Cafe Mediterranean. on my one time experience there (which was back in 2007 i think), i can remember i really enjoyed the food there.

actually there are a lot more to check out, and if you would like to check out places with strips of places to eat, here are some on the top of my head right now:
1. Greenbelt (1-5) - this place has a nice strip of mid to high end restaurants. i think the better ones are in Greenbelt 2 and 3.
2. SM (Mall of Asia) by the Bay - not in Makati, but in Pasay (adjacent city on its west side, around 20-30 minute worth of normal traffic jam from Makati CBD). got a wide choice of restaurants and bars by Manila Bay, including the famous buffet place called Vikings.
3. Burgos Circle (NOT STREET ) - this is in BGC, Taguig. this area has been growing to be the newer business district here in Metro Manila, so finding a place to eat or hang out or whatever in this area wouldn't be that hard

and of course, i wouldn't end this post without recommending Jollibee!

anyhow, hope this helps! and by the way, if you are keen in meeting up, cmah89 and i can meet you up for makan or kopi or something. just let us know!

hi guys, im in ph too. Working here about 1 months+

Where are you here in ph? Lets meet up!

im in makati here. Staying in oriental garden condo. how abt u

Hi there, i have been working in makati here for 1 month plus. I wonder any Malaysian working here too ? perhaps in the same industry i guess

wow.. Makati seems to be nice.

Sorry to be too forward awhile ago. I meant lets set up a date for a meet up (i cant tonight)

Im actually a local here. Im from las pinas city (some 20kms south of makati), working in taguig (next city from makati). How i ended up here in LYN is quite a story haha

I'm in consideration. But need some help here.

1.May i know what currency you are paid into your bank account?
2.How do you do the money transfer from PH to MY?
3.How are the charges for the transfer fee?
4.I am offered with 22 days annual leave without public holiday. Is it usual? Can you share yours?

my work n condo along V.A Rufino St

may i know what position u applied ?

IT. Why?

mine is 26 days A.L. how you found the job ? in jobstreet ?

How much is your monthly rental + utility bro?

It is provided by the company and meals too

Nice, more than me. No Public holiday leaves?
They found me from dunno Jobstreet or Monster. I couldn't recall that.
Did you get your job from Jobstreet PH or MY?

pm me to discuss about it

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This post has been edited by kembayang: May 28 2018, 08:04 PM

Bro, i'm working here too, for 3 weeks. Let PM me and arrange Malaysian gathering here in Makati!! Btw, i'm working in PBCom tower and staying at Nobel Plaza.

lol same working building.. hahahaha
Staying in Island Plaza, before this Villa in Bel-Air Village

which company your working? Maybe we're working in the same company

middle section lift 23-36

i'm at the left section from main entrance, 3-22. LoL!!

Wow, I am in PBCom too. Haha. Third lift 37-53

How do you guys change your PHP to MYR.

In Makati

You can try these which suit our taste

1. Warung Indo
2. Garuda Restaurant
3. Bombay Restaurant
4. Banana Leaf
5. CCJF
6. Unitry

Haha... all different lift section

I earn in USD

cool...tq

hi， are you working in company name start with R。。。。

After saying this last 2 years... I will be posted to Manila again for 2 months this year hahaha dem

Anybody know any low-mid range restaurants that can swipe AMEX card? Location makati.

This post has been edited by hirano: Jul 5 2018, 08:36 AM

AMEX wasn't popular in Philippine. If you have time you can try Mendokoro Ramenba, their pork is good. Average Spend per person around 500 Peso (Expensive XD)
Note: peak hours will need to queue for 2 hours + for your food.

O, so you get paid in USD ? Good for you, my company moved to php, they have to pay the additional 35% tax for us. XD

Im a muslim. I dont need halal cert restaurant. Just pork-free is fine.

Wow, that must be hard for you to find food here. Most of the restaurant I tried doesnt accept Amex.

You may go "The Pantree" if you are looking for not so expensive & taste Ok food. (Normally I eat thai food there, budget around 200+-)

Inside Greenbelt 5 Level 3, there is one Toast Box (Singapore) if you are looking for Malaysian Food

You can download "Eatigo" app here too, it shows nearest restaurant with discount if you book with the app.

Totally not worth it with kind that amount.
Work at SG much better, more salary.

Let me know if you need USD, we can do exchange... hahaha

Company requires me to swipe Amex, what to do haha.
If everyday eat toastbox, paisehhh

I am currently working in KL earning 7k and I was being offered 120k PHP for a role in Manila. I personally thinking it's way too low for me to move from KL to Philippines to have a 30% bump on Malaysia pay and planning to reject my offer (for a regional manager position).

Is there any experienced expat have any comments on this offer? I highly believed that I am getting low-balled by the company.

Edit: I rejected the offer and they came back to me offering me 3800 USD 200k PHP. Got low-balled so hard initially. Still the new offer after tax the amount will be roughly 11k myr, I think I'll search again.

This post has been edited by LovelyPotato: Aug 7 2018, 10:21 AM

after working here for 9 months, i finally tendered.

grass arent greener always on the other side lel.

that aside, anyone can recommend mandarin billingual job here?
open to the online cas job too, already tired working as white collar office job