Introduction of Proton Saga / Iswara

The Proton Saga is the first car produced by Malaysian auto manufacturer Proton, based on the 1983 Mitsubishi Lancer Fiore. It first debuted in September 1985. The first Proton Saga that rolled off the production line was presented to the Malaysian National Museum as a symbol of the beginning of the Malaysian automotive industry.

Since then, the Proton Saga and its variants contributed to most of Proton's sales and revenues. The Saga variants are also popular among Malaysian taxi drivers and operators who need cheap vehicles with good fuel economy. The Saga is currently the longest surviving brand in a line of cars offered by Proton.

Saga / Iswara Owners List

1. kahheng (29/09)
2. chowdm
3. singchaii (16/09)
4. apache_utara
5. the_catacombs (15/09)
6. feralee
7. blackpc
8. domo_kun
9. bukanmain
10. ~Battousai~
11. ceo684
12. edtan5
13. Tainted
14. Xefron
15. RoxyMunky
16. keith121284
17. mengfui
18. hamiru
19. KeV
20. batista_beast (retired member. Now a BMW enthusiast)
21. kudepadi
22. eXpert
23. dcarbon AKA (yongfei)
24. bullet
25. lov3too4ll
26. daktzuk
27. elaineliew88
28. UnCleHenG
29. kevinlim001
30. airpool2407
31. jabelix
32. zhixin
33. CerealKiller
34. sonic_darkknight
35. leinnz
36. nightzstar
37. bjay1482
38. HughieRmX
39. popopi
40. xacrifizer
41. sonicscourge
42. kenzo
43. bryanhkc84
44. icyd
45. mickeywjy
46. andychan (31/8)
47. ronaldet
48. Gilbert5107(13/9)
49. stanum
50. jenniferyoke(19/10)
51. -pWs-
52. tysern
53. joekang86
54. dopeisgood
55. neosaint99
56. wkho555 get car on 11/10/07
57. flyingteeku
58. darude87
59. quick_shaq
60. stupidbump
61. carcraze66
62. how to save a life
63. kakashixws
64. XG.
65. chicaman
66. yewwing
67. neshh
68. virginslayer
69. ThanatosSwiftfire
70. kabyss87
71. firdz
72. ahseng84
73. englandcaptain
74. Anthony87
75. PureGeek
76. allenyip
77. PinkyWhite wub.gif
78. IcEMoCHa
79. felix5152001
80. shiinkuro31
81. lwc1989
82. Calvin
83. mE_duNNo
84. Halia_Merah
85. godspeeds
86. long_con
87. Nskyline
88. heavencloud
89. lkylyk
90. evoluzzion
91. Shawnzz
92. alexwsk
93. Maksimum
94. samosa
95. faidzal1982
96. Hikaru Kenshin
97. lennon_87
98. reuben_1991
99. aichiban
100. ibnuasad
101. juniorkirk
102. aidil_fahmi
103. rozz_1291 (current TS)
104. JJTam
105. ravemaster222003
106. eggtart
107. yOuNg$tEr
108. zyde
109. x_suncai
110. HoobastanK(2)
111. ronzai89
112. lengchai86
113. nap2617 aka Rudy
114. GMS FearLess A.K.A HighRevSAGA
115. Arcsaber
116. UranusFoo
117. riduanteo
118. id86
119. Black Panther
120. napoli26
121. dakwan5555
122. mls_ gamer
123. johannemiir
124. Zack Styler
125. joshgm_119
126. shawns
127. TWLOH
128. Irenicus_extr
129. kellefe
130. touge_ke70
131. hamster9
132. cyclone61
133. 91jude
134. macho_siot
135. beastiex
136. Yashiro
137. Reizz
138. bobfuzie
139. Strawberry<3
140. evolution120
141. chris3k6
142. mchlkeys
143. taitianhin
144. Shafique
145. newaythem3
146. zax1116
147. Notoriez
148. jezztanjl
149. mizi28
150. layeong
151. Cyril
152. Alex_tan168
153. jackchong890
154. StarburstMz
155. Ah Hei
156. Chan320
157. Babyiswara
158. sinister_sid
159. stasis21
160. GTL
161. nookie7

Do PM me if ur name is not listed!

This post has been edited by rozz_1291: Dec 5 2010, 03:56 AM

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Added on June 28, 2010, 2:06 amSaga/Iswara Evolutions


Tyre & Rim Info
1) PCD
-> stands for pitch circle diameter, numbers of bolts on the wheel
-> got a few PCD types: 100 (eg: wira, honda), 114.3 (eg: saga iswara, satria neo), 110 (kancil), etc.


2) Offset
-> distance from the center of the rim to the attaching disk part
-> normally can be adjusted using spacer


3) Spacer
-> a round piece of metal that has holes on it, the function is to avoid/adjust the wheel from rubbing the arch/fender
-> got few sizes/thickness
-> if u r using 8 holes rim sure need to add spacer on the front

4) 14" or 15"
-> i prefer 15" bcoz 14" less choices for performance tires tongue.gif

5) Best PCD and offset
-> 114.3 and 38-40 (need check with sifoo..)


Credit goes to: Killer


LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum Rules n Regulations


Following rules are being implemented to prevent any unhappiness arise during discussion.

Rule 1:
This is not a trading thread. Any trading activities must be done in discreet. Use PM la!

Rule 2:
This is not a place for u to show off. Respect all saga/iswara driver if u doesn't own a saga/iswara but u wish to join our thread please respect all others member. Do not make statement like "This car doesn't deserve any modification". If u don't like us don't join our discussion. We also not welcome u to make any statement to show off here.

Rule 3:
All other LYN rules applied in this Forum too.

These rules and regulations has to be followed by existing and new members. Any unsatisfaction and comment pls PM me and allow me to discuss with all senior members before the rule is being change or new rule being implement.

Extra information on warranty issues:

Warranty FAQs
1. What makes the warranty contract null and void?
For details, please refer to your PROTON Service Booklet under Section 4 of Warranty and Limitation of Liability. However, PROTON reserves the right of final decision on all warranty claims.

2. What is covered by the warranty?

Subject to terms and conditions, PERUSAHAAN OTOMOBIL NASIONAL BERHAD (referred as PROTON) warrants that any items of the "Basic Warranty and Specific Warranty" of the new vehicle manufactured by and for PROTON shall be free from any defects in materials and workmanship of these warranty covered by new vehicle limited warranty will be repaired or replaced free of charge by any PROTON's authorised distributors or dealers.

Basic Warranty items

The basic warranty items that are any items of the new PROTON vehicle (except the Specific items and the Special transacted items*) are warranted to 24 months or 50,000 kms, whichever comes first.

Specific Warranty items

The specific warranty items listed below are warranted to 12 months or 20,000 kms, whichever comes first.

*
Battery (for Diesel - 6 months)
*
Exhaust
*
Injection nozzle for diesel powered vehicle
*
Glow plug for diesel powered vehicle

Special Transacted items*

The concerned manufacturer for Clarion radio cassette and speakers warrant the special transacted items.

3. What are the other types of warranty offered by EON?
Parts Warranty is given to all parts purchased at EON service network for 6 months or 10,000 kms, whichever comes first.

Rust Proofing Warranty is given to all PROTON vehicles, which are treated with anti-rust spray for 6 years from registration date.


4. Can I use my own lubricant/engine oil at EON Service Centre?
Yes. EON will not be responsible for any problem arising from the usage of other brands other than our recommended lubricant/engine oil.

5. Is it important to use genuine parts?

Yes, it is important that you use PROTON genuine parts and accessories.

This will ensure that the original vehicle specifications are maintained and that the replacement parts meet the same high standards as the vehicle original equipments. This will also ensure the vehicle compliance to the government regulations relating to vehicle safety and environmental controls. The use of parts that do not conform to the correct specification may cause damage to the vehicle and could also invalidate the terms of the warranty.

credit goes to Kevin

USUAL PERFORMANCE UPGRADE FOR SAGA/ISWARA

Intake
1. High Flow Open Pod (from rm50 onwards) or Drop In Air Filters (only K&N available, rm215)
2. Due to the bad placing of the stock air intake resulting in hot air being sucked, it is recommended to add a Cold Air Intake. Various types of hose available for this DIY upgrade. Position the intake in front of the radiator, and you will definitely gain valuable power and better the fuel consumption!

Exhaust
4-2-1 Tuned Length Extractor (from rm400 onwards) for high exhaust flow with minimal restriction & power increase. Use cap ayam brand and you will end up with power loss instead.

Ignition
1. Performance spark plug cable (from rm50 onwards). Recommended brands are the like of RAM and Pro Rallye. They say thick cables produce bigger spark which results in better combustion=more power=better fuel consumption. Some reported radio interference. However most enthusiast remain skeptic and stuck with the stock plug cable. So you decide.
2. Side gapped spark plug. This is a cheap performance upgrade. Your standard spark plug's electrode is shaved away to provide a bigger 'open' spark. It is also recommended to 'index' the spark plug so that when it's plugged in, the spark area will directly face the combustion chamber. Downside is, the plug will not last as long. Again, most enthusiast remain skeptic. http://performanceunlimited.com/documents/...idegapping.html

Engine
1. Port & Polish Engine Head (from rm400~rm1500). Smoothen the rough internals for better air/exhaust flow & power increase.
2. High Performance Camshafts (from rm600~rm1500). Modified camshafts profile can ensure more air-fuel mixture to reach the cylinder at the correct timing resulting in horsepower & torque increase.
3. Lightened Crank Pulley (from rm200~rm650). Release loss horsepower due to heavy stock crank pulley. Better acceleration and fuel consumption. Revs drop faster though. Enthusiasts are still arguing about rubber dampened or non-dampened crank pulley. Again, you decide.

Handling
1. Suspension (from rm500~RM2000). Depending on your budget and liking, you can opt for sports short stroke absorber coupled with sports spring or go for semi-adjustable absorbers. Be aware that this upgrade will cause uncomfortable ride. Brands like APM Performax cost about rm500 while adjustables from GAB or Improve will set you back about rm1500.
2. Chassis Stiffening Bars (from rm150 onwards). Front stabiliser bar, fender bars, lower arm bar, rear strut bar, etc will help the car reduce its flex during heavy corners and help the suspension keep the tires planted to the tarmac. The more bar installed, the more solid the ride. Not to mention they will add to the weight as well.

Brakes
1. Double Layer Brake Servo (from rm100 onwards) - This half cut item is popular among enthusiasts. A great help to improve stopping power. However idling will be a bit rough. Sourced from VR4, Pajero or Honda SM4.
2. High-Temp Brake Pads (from rm120 onwards) - Higher temperature handling will avoid the risk of fading brakes during aggressive or mountain driving. At the moment, Rapid Stop pads is the way to go.

Monster ride in this thread; the_catacombs' ride (aka SkYwAlKeR)


Uranus Foo


rozz_1291


This post has been edited by rozz_1291: Nov 5 2010, 11:33 PM

Member's Ride(hidden monster non monster)

Kevin's LMST



shiinkuro31's ride

eXpert

Gilbert5107

yewwing

Shawnzz

Zhixin

rozz_1291's ex ride

godspeeds

sjz

ronaldet

Shafique

juniorkirk

Chan320

GMS fearless

Notoriez

dakwan


This post has been edited by rozz_1291: Nov 5 2010, 11:32 PM

stasis21


This post has been edited by rozz_1291: Nov 1 2010, 02:13 AM

Members Engine Bay:

the_catacombs:


Twin DCOE:


wkho555's DGAV:


Siapa punya???


andychan:



rozz_1291's ex engine bay:


Uranus Foo's 4G93T monster powered by microtech!


rozz_1291's 4G61 Factory stock


This post has been edited by rozz_1291: Nov 1 2010, 02:13 AM

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This post has been edited by rozz_1291: Jun 28 2010, 02:11 AM

Can post edi....

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Added on June 28, 2010, 2:14 am


This post has been edited by rozz_1291: Jun 28 2010, 02:14 AM

Kena kasi whack lor....

Jom TT...... long time edi tarak meet up wit the SIE kakis

The old 90's and below model I think

1.3 maybe. But I dun think so its gonna be dat decent. Maybe the car color will be faded abit, got mushroom starts to grow, leaking abit and bla bla bla.... Second hand car hahaahahaa

Hi there, sure can join 1.... kasi post up ur Sedan LMST pics only....

Bak Kut Teh bule makan

To all SIE@LYN members, lets have a Inter-Club TT wit 4g1series forum. They are organizing a trip to Fraser's Hill for the weekend. I've talk to the Organizer/TS bout the trip and have a Inter-Club TT together. Dat fler agree with us to join. Pls support dis Trip and make it a successful 1. Thanks

Quote from 4g1series.

Lets go on a 2D 1N trip to Fraser hill and escape the hustle and bustle of the city 4G1Series sohais...

The proposed trip would be done on the 10th - 11th July. (saturday and sunday)



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The suggested routes

Using Sunway Pyramid as a starting point and ending point for convenience sake:

1. To Fraser Hill via LDP - Batu Caves/Gombak - Karak Highway - Bentong - Raub - Fraser hill (Google Map: A - B - C)
2. To Fraser Hill Via LDP - Rawang - Kuala Kubu - Fraser Hill (Google Map: C - D - E)

Suggested driving Route


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Map of Fraser Hill



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Accomodation

The accomodation details are as follow:

Pines Resort:





One Bedroom Executive Suite 2 person RM 220 (Peak) RM 286 (Super Peak)
Two Bedroom Superior Apartment 4 person RM 298 (Peak) RM 374 (Super Peak)
Three Bedroom Corporate Apartment 6 person RM 338 (Peak) RM 398 (Super Peak)



Silverpark Apartment



Studio Apartment 2 person RM 188 (Peak) RM 240 (Super Peak)
2 Bedroom Apartment 4 person RM 268 (Peak) RM 344 (Super Peak)
3 Bedroom Apartment 5 person RM 315 (Peak) RM 410 (Super Peak)

Extra Mattress - RM 40.00 with breakfast / RM 30 No breakfast




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Proposed Itinerary:(To be updated)

10th July 2010

6.30 a.m.

Meet up and have breakfast. While having breakfast I will assign everyone to their respective groups. I will also record down all the materials/cooking utensils/etc so to lessen possibility of things going missing. Must respect everyone's property. I will also expect the 50% balance.

I will also provide GPS coordinates, maps and written instructions for every group. The idea is that everyone knows how to get there and we will meet up mid-way and re-organise ourselves again before the final half leg.

7.30 a.m

Everyone starts making a move. If large convoy then groups should leave with 10 minutes in between each other.

9.30 a.m (50-60 km of the route covered)

Should be arriving towards Bentong. Regroup. Light refreshments/brunch re-fuel etc. Purchase bahan-bahan for BBQ/steamboat.

Please make sure that your cars are fueled up properly for the uphill and downhill leg of Fraser all the way to K.Kubu Baru. As the next petrol station (Shell on route 55) is about 70 - 80 km away.

11.00 a.m (65 km of the route covered)

Should be reaching Fraser hill base. Re-fuel and so forth. Regroup and uphill leg begins!

11.30 a.m.

Check in at apartment. Logistical nightmare to assign rooms to everyone and put everything that we brought/bought into the room(s).

12.00 p.m.

Jeriau Waterfall! Lets go splash around the icy cool water, BBQ if allowed, TCSS etc.

4.00 p.m.

Balik apartment. Start preparing for the Steamboat dinner

4.30 p.m.

TCSS summore...

7.00 p.m. Steamboat starts!


11th July 2010

9.30 a.m

Have breakfast at a Nasi Lemak stall near the mosque. I hear good things about them. Dunno sinkalan or not.

At this time try to pack up a bit as check out time is usually at noon.

10.30 a.m

Lets go hiking at one of the trails? Want or not? If not camwhore around Fraser hill a bit.

12.00 p.m.

Checkout of apartment. I will try to negotiate to allow late checkout.

Makan lunch at Pine Resort Restaurant. It seems the place have good balance between price and taste. Dunno sinkalan or not also.

1.30 p.m.

Continue playing around Fraser hill. Hiking and so forth

I would like to take this time to go high tea at the Old Smokehouse. Nothing beats good ol' fashion scones with cream and jam, earl grey tea. Anyone wanna join?

3.30 p.m.

Regroup at the apartment parking lot. Re-check everything that we have brought based on the record that I have.

At this time I will reconfirm the route, GPS coordinates again.

4.00 p.m.

Start of downhill leg of Fraser hill.

4.30 p.m.

Regroup at Fraser Hill base.

5.00 p.m.

Start making our way towards Kampung Kubu Baru.

6.00 p.m (50 km covered)

Have early dinner in Kampung Kubu Baru or Rawang? Pitstop and refuel? or Continue onwards to Rawang?

7.30 p.m.

Continue our return leg to KL via Rawang - NS Highway.



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Costs (To be updated)

1. Accomodation : - Arrangements to be made by number of ppl joining. E.g. If 6 ppl going then we get a 3 bedroom apartment divide it by 6 = how much per person lor. If you guys want can do kampung style. Some ppl sleep on the floor. I booking one bed first Organiser must have a bit of comfort cos not easy to organise you know.

2. Driving distance/toll info and petrol station: I was given this info from my colleagues

Gombak Toll - (2km.) Shell Twin stn. meeting point, Light refreshment/kopi-O, fuel top up - (42km.)
Bentong Toll - (0.6km.) Exit 808 to Bentong/Raub - (7km.) Bentong town - (2.5km.) Petronas stn. fuel top up - (6.6km.) turn left to Route 55 - (42km.) Fraser Hill entry point - (7.5km) Fraser Hill clock tower - Lunch(possibly)

Return trip: Fraser Hill - (35km.) K.Kubu Baru - (15km.) SHELL stn. Fuel top up - (30km.) Rawang - NS Highway - K.L.


3. BBQ + Steamboat materials (If everyone wants a BBQ)
Need everyone's assistance to bawak a few things: (I will track who owns what.)

- BBQ Sangkar
- BBQ/steamboat tools like thongs, pencucuk.
- Disposable dishware/spoons/forks/cups
- Cool box
- Coal
- Firestarter
- matches/lighters
- Steamboat electric pot (Prolly need 2 if it is a big crowd)
- Bowls
- Bahan-bahan buat BBQ and steamboat dinner


5. Prices of eateries in Fraser Hill would not be cheap. Remember to bring backup cash. Here are some places that we could eat:

- Arzed Restaurant & Puncak Restaurant serves Malaysian food and you should not miss their "roti canai" and "nasi lemak". They open from 7.00am to 10.00pm

- Nearer to the upper Gate is the Kheng Yuen Lee Restaurant which opens from 9.00 am to 7.00 pm. The restaurant is famous for its "curry laksa" and available during weekends only.

- Eateries at Rawang and Bentong I have no info. Maybe anyone can fill this part in?

6. Those who want to drink please BYO (Bring Your Own)



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To prevent FFK, keyboard warrior-ism, sohai-ness, Confirmation would be based upon the below criterias from participants:

1. Number of ppl
2. 50% deposit by latest 23rd of June. Balance would be payable on the departure date.

Departure
1. Meet up at pre-designated day at 6.30 am SHARP for breakfast. Those call last minute asking to wait and so forth GTFO. Catch up.
2. 7.30 am will start to make a move.
3. NO waiting for Late comers, FFK, etc etc. If you're late then CATCH UP. If FFK kiss your 50% deposit goodbye. The 50% deposit will be spent on the participants (food, prostitute, petrol, beer etc.)
4. Return leg will be leaving at 4.00pm. Everyone is expected to be ready by 3.00pm. If no bayang-bayang by 3.30 pm, you're going home yourself.


Convoy Ethics
1. Make sure that your vehicle is in good mechanical order for safety and everyone's comfort sake. No one likes their fun spoiled because someone forgets to service the car, bring spare tyre etc.
2. Make sure your vehicle/wallet/SMARTAG is filled up with petrol, air, water, Touch & Go etc BEFORE departure.
3. STRICTLY NO CUCUK, NO SPEEDING, NO LESING. We don't want a bad image in the eyes of the public. This is a convoy. Lets make it safe and fun.
4. Those with walkie talkie's please bring them. Else make sure Mobile phone is READY TO USE(i.e. Reload, battery fully charged etc.) This is for safety reasons.
5. Ensure that all necessary tools, spare parts are in the vehicle.


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Lets make it a reasonably large crowd. Where everyone can have fun and TCSS together. I'm open to suggestions of activities. If you'd like to invite other ppl please by all means, especially hot chicks

By the way I've never been to Fraser hill. I'm asking for everyone's support to make the trip a success.

Thank You,
A.

Apa nih??? take from the side lor....

Yalor, if gone wrong edi can find dis otai from Kepong kasi molest2

Sinkalan summore.... since when I become fins expert???

Check the fan??? During idling or driving time overheat or both???