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GMS FearLess
post Aug 8 2010, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(pitywoman @ Aug 8 2010, 09:30 AM)
recently my car radiator not spinning when temp raise. but the prob is, the fan is working after tested bypass the wiring and staright from battery and it spinning. any idea what happened here? some said sensor, some said fius. anyone can show me how this two look like and how much it cost?
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temperature sensor,it at bottom of radiator in pic...beside blue host......it maybe rm10 or more.......but to change it...ur can DIY or workshop....if workshop it costly and this work time consuming


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post Aug 8 2010, 09:48 AM

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i dont have clear picture...bit it location beside outlet under radiator.....

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post Aug 8 2010, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Aug 8 2010, 12:53 PM)
no rike fake displacement
picture ada??
that screwdriver look so familiar
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you punya ka???
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in my mind want find dashboard UK Spec. brows.gif ...if have how much in market??
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post Aug 9 2010, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Aug 9 2010, 03:32 AM)
Sigh .... how come you don't understand plain English ?

It means he swapped his 4G13 or 4G15 for an Altis engine.

It looked like a Mitsubishi engine, though I'm sure he
said it was an Altis.

He said it had good fuel comsumption. Also had an auto gearbox.
Changed to a double layer radiator, and his temp never went
above the first quarter mark, which means the fan hardly ever
comes on.

Using a GP battery meant for racing, cost some $300.

He said the engine cost him $3,800, and had to wait for
a few months. If you are interested in this conversion,
I'll have to phone him to ask where he did it.

He told me some guy offered him $18,000 for his Iswara
sedan, 1995 model I think.  Body and paintwork still in
good condition, I think repainted.

This compares with my 1997 model, which used to belong
to my younger brother, and Honda offered him .... $4,000
when he asked about trading it in for his new City. So my
elder brother decided to buy it from him for the same price,
and I'm the one who has now borrowed it.

Quite a nice guy, good conversationist and very helpful.
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ok i understeer now.....engine 1.8.from toyota altis....never heard before....but....anything can do with loaded pocket... brows.gif

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post Aug 9 2010, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(cartack @ Aug 9 2010, 10:59 AM)
hey guys...i own one iswara aeroback year 1995.... so far i had changed the engine once... but this car really need a major rebuild work.... as for now, the car hood and dashboard shake like hell when rpm is lower than 1k... as far as i understand, this is majorly because of the engine mounting right? if it is because of the mounting, how much usually will it cost to change 1 set of the mounting including the installation fees and any recommended workshop for this work? and another thing, this car when i hit a bump or rough road, the sounds is like shit... its like "kedebang kedebang", i think its from the doors.. anyone know how to rectify this?
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where ur location????

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post Aug 9 2010, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Aug 9 2010, 03:53 PM)
aboden.. dry.gif
waste money la..
u type all dat also takes more den 10mins...  laugh.gif
now only i know battery got racing and non-racing mia...  notworthy.gif
tune ur carburetor first la
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juz want to know.i like UK spec. dashboard design,meter rpm and odometer..
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post Aug 10 2010, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Aug 9 2010, 09:10 PM)
if like digital use HUD lo brows.gif
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i like that meter design....
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post Aug 11 2010, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(AhHei @ Aug 10 2010, 11:32 PM)
i got no sinkalan.com 1, my friend got a Saga with GTR engine...  brows.gif

whistling.gif  whistling.gif

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wah...ni betul2 gila.....tayar terkangkang 45 degree.


Added on August 11, 2010, 12:08 pmWho Have Facebook Account.Please Join S.I.E Facebook....if rozz join he sure become admin....and 2 slot of admin still free

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post Aug 12 2010, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(adam565 @ Aug 11 2010, 02:07 PM)
look like sleeper car... hehe... imagine all the modified kancils/civics/ on the road... "aiyah... saga only what..." suddenly they realise bov sound... terus humble themselves  brows.gif very nice photoshopping skills tho... couldnt tell if its true or not...  laugh.gif
hey guys... i wanna ask... is the water pump on the saga powered by the alternator belt?

my foreman said if alternator belt putus engine will overheat... i couldnt see the connection.. true or not?

me very noob one...  unsure.gif
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yeah....if belt putus=alternator not charging=fan turn slowly coz use battery power already drain coz usage of light & distributor.water pump not moving cauzing water not circulating in blok thus engine can overheat....to give early warning....install voltmeter like in my avatar brows.gif ....it useful coz i can see battery voltage....sometime can detect if alternator kong or not....


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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Aug 11 2010, 02:10 PM)
why use my car as avatar??...  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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wah....canot ar blush.gif ??.....if cannot i change to another pic....who willing to make your car pic into Fb avatar???? surely famous brows.gif

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QUOTE(tofu @ Aug 12 2010, 12:46 PM)
passing by...
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hah???pass away????
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QUOTE(Ivan Sac @ Aug 12 2010, 02:53 PM)
Hi guys..
Just now i went to change my car tyre..
Recently my engine oil was leaking, so i decided to ask why it happen..
The show owner told me that i need to change the timing belt which consist of timing belt,timing bearing and timing oil seal...
He quoted me RM240 for the whole set...
Is that price reasonable ..?

My father's friend can repair car..
If the price quoted are high then Im planning to buy the timing belt kit on my own and give it to my father's friend..
What is current market price for a timing belt set..?
What are the good brand available..?
Im using Iswara LMST..6 years ready..Mileage 40000km..
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in market have many brand to choose like original MMC timing belt and interval milage to service up to 80k km>200k km....if want to change timing belt...change water pump also......it cost RM100>more depend on milage....but process to change time consuming and need to do by experiance foreman....

and check oil sump also....

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QUOTE(Ivan Sac @ Aug 12 2010, 10:40 PM)
My father's fren also recommend that brand..MMC which cost around RM80...
Will ask him to check the water pump and oil pump as well...
Normal Car Service Shop really over charging... vmad.gif
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find brand Gaido timing belt...100k KM...last i buy RM99.....MMC original just 60k KM or more
Normal car service charge on labour...timing belt changing is time consuming and hard to replace....
if you ask ur father's friend...see how he do it and judge it......
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post Aug 13 2010, 05:17 AM

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QUOTE(AhHei @ Aug 12 2010, 11:58 PM)
i can change timing belt myself...   tongue.gif whistling.gif
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hey...can teach me to install belt tensioner.....i can unistall but cant install it.....my sifo teach only to unistall timing belt....he already pass away cry.gif


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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Aug 12 2010, 11:47 PM)
dry.gif
i dun wan be famous..  sleep.gif
dat day i buy GATES mia... rm100... dunno cheap or expensive.... rm210 include installation is ok... change timing belt quite lot of work to do one... if u clever change urself lo...
mmc so cheap rm80??... my place selling rm130...
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what service interval for that timing belt??

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QUOTE(Shawnzz @ Aug 13 2010, 07:19 AM)
i dunno whats my previous brand, but it lasted only 20k km.
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reason???
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post Aug 14 2010, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(AhHei @ Aug 14 2010, 08:57 AM)
tat is just 2 bolt on the tensioner, loosen both bolt, and then push the tensioner to the end, tighten the tensioner adjustment bolt, install timing belt according to the marking, and then loosen the tensioner adjustment bolt again, the spring will auto push the tensioner pulley to the timing belt, then tighten back both bolt, check whether the belt is enough tension or not, that all... happy.gif
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thank you.....i can pull it out but i cant fix it back tongue.gif ...


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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Aug 14 2010, 10:21 AM)
thank you.....i can pull it out but i cant fix it back  tongue.gif ...
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1) Model:Proton Saga 1986 2nd Generation
2) Engine/Power plant:4G13 12Valve 1.5 (carb)
3) Extractor:4.1
4) exhaust:Modified
5) Petrol Used:ESSO/Mobil Ron 95
6) Fuel Consumption:0.0648L/Km@15.44KM/L
7)Distance:Melaka(Alor Gajah)>Johor-Johor Baharu(Skudai)=250KM
8) Driving Condition:80% Highway 20% City
9) Average Speed/rpm: 100KM/H
10) Max Speed/rpm:110KM/H
11)Tyre:175/70/13
12)Rims:OEM Proton Iswara

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QUOTE(adam565 @ Aug 14 2010, 03:44 PM)
I think i have found the right foreman... gonna stick to one guy now... RM150 for radiator fan motor and the alternator belt...  including labour.  icon_idea.gif im not a cheap guy who goes for cheap stuff... but im a student...i've no choice...i ask for the lowest price possible. To all the foreman in here... please know that i as a user understand what you all go through... YES you all need your duit makan also... I respect that...  sweat.gif  im going to run now...
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student must DIY to cut cost....im ex foreman cum student

radiator,fan radiator,belting i can DIY

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Aug 14 2010, 04:02 PM)
Its gud to learn DIY methods to save sum $$$. But if done it wrongly.... its gonna cost more thn the actual amount nod.gif
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before DIY..Make sure you know what you doing and if you not know how to do it ask who have experience.and have enough tools
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QUOTE(adam565 @ Aug 14 2010, 04:16 PM)
learn yourself? good...  thumbup.gif

im learning too... i just need a good sifu  brows.gif

if can open classes i will be the first to sign up  brows.gif

as of now im learning how to diy service the radiator fan motor  brows.gif
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yeah...you can learn from me..
or Rozz brows.gif
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QUOTE(Chan320 @ Aug 14 2010, 06:24 PM)
Guys,any sifu here know how to change the dashboard meter bulb to led?is it just take out the 4 screw and just replace the bulb with led type?
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that need little modification.....not 4 screw but 8 screw(Saga/iswara)but for LMST i dont know.


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QUOTE(adam565 @ Aug 14 2010, 04:27 PM)
first things first... got no meeting ah? mesti mau kenal2 kan  brows.gif
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sure??...i got enough tool in my boot to replace radiator fan..can do On The Spot brows.gif

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