QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 13 2011, 03:42 PM)
no need la... when ur tank is almost empty, pump in ron95 immediately can feel the difference... my car can even feel difference between shell, bhp and caltex mia ron95...
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Jan 13 2011, 10:44 PM
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our old iswara a/b the dashboard meter can be fitted with what kind meter? any idea and how it look like? how much is the price?
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Jan 13 2011, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(sinister_sid @ Jan 13 2011, 01:46 PM) how the hell saga bawak 11 ppl haha....sumbat-sumbat....macam tauhu sumbat.... even my mother use my saga now to bring children to scholl only can sumbat 8 Added on January 13, 2011, 1:51 pm avoid using mf calcium dry type brand made from korea paliah brand paliah quality only cheaper then century 20 buck tepat tepat 1 year mati last time use century dry can tahan 2 years and two month for two time Added on January 13, 2011, 1:53 pm how much the spring and abs cost looks good peksan good ah???? |
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Jan 14 2011, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(cadmus @ Jan 12 2011, 02:45 PM) Hi All, Sinkalan Mechanic...I currently driving the proton saga Iswara 2007( orange color model). 3 weeks ago, i had some issue when i drove my car. It jerks terribly when it hits 3000rpm at 2nd gear. Since its near the time for me to do my periodic maintenance, i send for maintenance. During the check up, the mechanics found out that its time to change my spark plug as it's filled with carbons deposit. At the same time, i also change the cable for the spark plug and did some maintenance here and there. Then the mechanic asked me, what petrol i'm using. I told him I'm using Ron95 with some adjustment to the timing. He told me that my car, according to the manual, it is suppose to run on Ron 97. And when i change to Ron 95, the maintenance cost over long period will be higher as the Ron95 will effects my car performance and conditions (i think he is talking about Ron 95 is not good for the engine etc..). He suggested i changed back to Ron 97. I did do that but the petrol price recently jsut hike up again. So, my question is that, 1)Does using ron 95 really that bad for the engine? I'm not sure how to compare the cost wise for different grade of fuel but basicly, 2) is it true when he says the maintenance cost will be higher and its much more worthwhile to pay for the higher fuel cost for Ron97? Appreciate your comments. If you understand the basics of IGNITION TIMING then you know what's best for your car. Higher RON = ignition timing can go higher hence car feel more powderful hence no need to press so hard on the pedal. For our 4G1s engine, no matter carbie or MMC efi, ignition timing need to manually adjust. Those modern engines will auto adjust the timing to retard if it senses that the engine experience pinging or knocking. This is to protect your engine internals. That's why performance cars / modded cars with high compression like Swift Sport need to use RON97 for better performance. QUOTE(yewwing @ Jan 12 2011, 08:32 PM) FC might get affected abit if using heavier 15' rims and not forgetting the rotational dimension is a bit more than 14'Better use 13' la to get more power + better FC QUOTE(cadmus @ Jan 13 2011, 11:07 AM) T_T sudah pump 3 times full tank for Ron 97. i guess i will change back. No need to find la. Same only. Using RON97 or higher is USELESS if never kacau the ignition timing. For those who tune their cam timing to advance also can use higher RON so that their ignition timing no need to retard so much else it will feel very sluggish on low end but ooompppphh comes on mid and high rev range Anyway, in that case, is the process below proper? 1)pump Full tank Ron95 when low fuel and the fuel light is blinking 2)Use the car for a few days. 3)Go for tuning the ignition timing. On a side note, i was searching for the fuel consumption (KM/Litre) on Ron95 vs Ron97 for this iswara. Didn't manage to find yet. Any help on this? Thanks a lot~! |
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Jan 14 2011, 12:14 AM
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when the time i stop my car after driving..i turn off my car and my car will shake for few second..isn't knocking? Why will it happened? will bring any harm?
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Jan 14 2011, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(fool1988 @ Jan 14 2011, 12:14 AM) when the time i stop my car after driving..i turn off my car and my car will shake for few second..isn't knocking? Why will it happened? will bring any harm? that call dieseling.....this happen carbon deposite in the combustion chamber glowing and pre-ignite the fuel mixture even the spark plug current was cut off and no spark produce........but to start the engine back little bit delayed...This post has been edited by GMS FearLess: Jan 14 2011, 12:58 AM |
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Jan 14 2011, 06:21 AM
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QUOTE(sinister_sid @ Jan 13 2011, 01:46 PM) avoid using mf calcium dry type brand made from korea paliah brand paliah quality only cheaper then century 20 buck tepat tepat 1 year mati last time use century dry can tahan 2 years and two month for two time Thanks for the advice. |
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Jan 14 2011, 08:47 AM
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Jan 14 2011, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(pitywoman @ Jan 13 2011, 10:44 PM) our old iswara a/b the dashboard meter can be fitted with what kind meter? any idea and how it look like? how much is the price? Sagaiswaraclub sifu there play digital meter . What meter olso can fit as long can fit behind the mounting and the wiring to suit for rpm , fuel , bla bla bla |
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Jan 14 2011, 11:07 AM
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Jan 14 2011, 08:37 PM
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meter ori best
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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jan 14 2011, 12:56 AM) that call dieseling.....this happen carbon deposite in the combustion chamber glowing and pre-ignite the fuel mixture even the spark plug current was cut off and no spark produce........but to start the engine back little bit delayed... what to do to avoid it happened? Does it bring harm to car? |
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guys, if i change to open pod AF, when my rpm goes up more than 3k, will it have large exhaust pipe type of sound?
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Jan 15 2011, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(evolution120 @ Jan 14 2011, 10:45 PM) guys, if i change to open pod AF, when my rpm goes up more than 3k, will it have large exhaust pipe type of sound? u no change exhaust where got large exhaust sound ?????? u change ar filter only got induction sound what induction sound ??????? u remove the air filter then rew ur engine the sucking sound lo |
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Jan 15 2011, 12:08 AM
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Just wanna ask wat is the size of our ori exhaust piping and tip?
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Jan 15 2011, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(sinister_sid @ Jan 15 2011, 12:01 AM) u no change exhaust where got large exhaust sound ?????? nonono, cz my fren's spectra just changed the AF to the mushroom head type 1, the exhaust is still stock, bt when accelerate almost 3k rpm, like having aftermarket exhaust pipe.. the sound from engine there damn loud.. so i just wanna confirm if i change carb type of open pod AF, will i have such sound when my rpm reach 3k..u change ar filter only got induction sound what induction sound ??????? u remove the air filter then rew ur engine the sucking sound lo |
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Jan 15 2011, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(evolution120 @ Jan 15 2011, 12:10 AM) nonono, cz my fren's spectra just changed the AF to the mushroom head type 1, the exhaust is still stock, bt when accelerate almost 3k rpm, like having aftermarket exhaust pipe.. the sound from engine there damn loud.. so i just wanna confirm if i change carb type of open pod AF, will i have such sound when my rpm reach 3k.. Yes bro,i using drop in type when floor the pedal also have tat sound but not so loud....that is sucking sound if u trottle lightly won't have da loud sound |
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