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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! V22, For all those SagaIswara Enthusiast

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GMS FearLess
post Jan 12 2011, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(winners8 @ Jan 12 2011, 07:00 AM)
Hi, would appreciate if any forumers here can recommend a good battery type (brand) for the Proton Saga, having experienced by themselves.  My newly delivered Saga (less than 1 month old) could not start after 1 week's of non-usage. Battery voltage dropped to 6.5 volts.  Went to SC but was denied a new replacement battery, and instead, they just manually charge it for 15 hours.  vmad.gif
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use yokohama......that can last longer....


Added on January 12, 2011, 10:14 am
QUOTE(Peekab0o @ Jan 12 2011, 01:27 AM)
hi happy belated new year !
Any sifu can help me please ..
your help is greatly appreciated
im using auto gauge brand amber led vacumn gauge everytime tekan gas pedal kuat the meter go >> 0 warning sound banyak noisy -.-
anyone know how to turn it off ?

and recently driving got duk duk duk duk noise drive slow 20-30kmh also have T.T some people say the duno wat bar near the tayar there ? @@"
THANK YOU ...
MY car 2004 lmst btw xD iswara supporter .. !
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im vacuum meter also from auto gauge......any problem officer??
my normal reading is 20 in.HG...in aircond on meter reading is 13 in.HG...when fully press throttle reading reach 0 in.hg.........moderate press reading can reach 5 in.HG....when fuel saver mod reading reach 15 in.HG...........

when using engine reterder can reach 25-30 in.HG..........

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post Jan 12 2011, 10:29 AM

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hi thanks for all the answers will try it =)
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post Jan 12 2011, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jan 12 2011, 10:07 AM)
use yokohama......that can last longer....
Thanks, will check it out at the local battery shop for this.

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post Jan 12 2011, 02:45 PM

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Hi All,

I currently driving the proton saga Iswara 2007( orange color model).

3 weeks ago, i had some issue when i drove my car. It jerks terribly when it hits 3000rpm at 2nd gear. Since its near the time for me to do my periodic maintenance, i send for maintenance. During the check up, the mechanics found out that its time to change my spark plug as it's filled with carbons deposit. At the same time, i also change the cable for the spark plug and did some maintenance here and there.

Then the mechanic asked me, what petrol i'm using. I told him I'm using Ron95 with some adjustment to the timing. He told me that my car, according to the manual, it is suppose to run on Ron 97. And when i change to Ron 95, the maintenance cost over long period will be higher as the Ron95 will effects my car performance and conditions (i think he is talking about Ron 95 is not good for the engine etc..).

He suggested i changed back to Ron 97. I did do that but the petrol price recently jsut hike up again.

So, my question is that, 1)Does using ron 95 really that bad for the engine?

I'm not sure how to compare the cost wise for different grade of fuel but basicly, 2) is it true when he says the maintenance cost will be higher and its much more worthwhile to pay for the higher fuel cost for Ron97?

Appreciate your comments.
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post Jan 12 2011, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(cadmus @ Jan 12 2011, 02:45 PM)
Hi All,

I currently driving the proton saga Iswara 2007( orange color model).

3 weeks ago, i had some issue when i drove my car. It jerks terribly when it hits 3000rpm at 2nd gear. Since its near the time for me to do my periodic maintenance, i send for maintenance. During the check up, the mechanics found out that its time to change my spark plug as it's filled with carbons deposit. At the same time, i also change the cable for the spark plug and did some maintenance here and there.

Then the mechanic asked me, what petrol i'm using. I told him I'm using Ron95 with some adjustment to the timing. He told me that my car, according to the manual, it is suppose to run on Ron 97. And when i change to Ron 95, the maintenance cost over long period will be higher as the Ron95 will effects my car performance and conditions (i think he is talking about Ron 95 is not good for the engine etc..).

He suggested i changed back to Ron 97. I did do that but the petrol price recently jsut hike up again.

So, my question is that, 1)Does using ron 95 really that bad for the engine?

I'm not sure how to compare the cost wise for different grade of fuel but basicly, 2) is it true when he says the maintenance cost will be higher and its much more worthwhile to pay for the higher fuel cost for Ron97?

Appreciate your comments.
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Hi,

Hope this reference can answer your question.

http://paultan.org/2009/05/14/can-proton-c...n95-grade-fuel/
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post Jan 12 2011, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(GuestX8 @ Jan 12 2011, 03:14 PM)
Hi,

Hope this reference can answer your question. 

http://paultan.org/2009/05/14/can-proton-c...n95-grade-fuel/
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THanks. I've read the website earlier when i changed to ron 95 last year. It just that since i got this problem and the comments from the mechanics, i wasn't so convinced with the article from paultan anymore for this matter.

That's why i'm wish to gather some advice/comments from anyone else here whether they had experienced this during their maintenance and can advice based on their experience.

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post Jan 12 2011, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(cadmus @ Jan 12 2011, 03:44 PM)
THanks. I've read the website earlier when i changed to ron 95 last year. It just that since i got this problem and the comments from the mechanics, i wasn't so convinced with the article from paultan anymore for this matter.

That's why i'm wish to gather some advice/comments from anyone else here whether they had experienced this during their maintenance and can advice based on their experience.

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Hi,

FYI, I have the Iswara year 2007 and using RON95 without problems. Yes, Iswara has an old generation engine but it is not that old as not suitable to be using RON95. What you need to to have the engine properly tuned that's all.

Regards.
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post Jan 12 2011, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(winners8 @ Jan 12 2011, 07:00 AM)
Hi, would appreciate if any forumers here can recommend a good battery type (brand) for the Proton Saga, having experienced by themselves.  My newly delivered Saga (less than 1 month old) could not start after 1 week's of non-usage. Battery voltage dropped to 6.5 volts.  Went to SC but was denied a new replacement battery, and instead, they just manually charge it for 15 hours.  vmad.gif
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something wrong with ur car wiring i guess... somewhere is short circuiting.. if u lazy to find out the cause, disconnect the battery if u leave the car for few days untouched...

its not the battery problem... normal healthy battery should even last for weeks even the engine is not started...

QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jan 12 2011, 10:07 AM)
im vacuum meter also from auto gauge......any problem officer??
my normal reading is 20 in.HG...in aircond on meter reading is 13 in.HG...when fully press throttle reading reach 0 in.hg.........moderate press reading can reach 5 in.HG....when fuel saver mod reading reach 15 in.HG...........

when using engine reterder can reach 25-30 in.HG..........
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what is engine reterder??...

QUOTE(cadmus @ Jan 12 2011, 02:45 PM)
Hi All,

I currently driving the proton saga Iswara 2007( orange color model).

3 weeks ago, i had some issue when i drove my car. It jerks terribly when it hits 3000rpm at 2nd gear. Since its near the time for me to do my periodic maintenance, i send for maintenance. During the check up, the mechanics found out that its time to change my spark plug as it's filled with carbons deposit. At the same time, i also change the cable for the spark plug and did some maintenance here and there.

Then the mechanic asked me, what petrol i'm using. I told him I'm using Ron95 with some adjustment to the timing. He told me that my car, according to the manual, it is suppose to run on Ron 97. And when i change to Ron 95, the maintenance cost over long period will be higher as the Ron95 will effects my car performance and conditions (i think he is talking about Ron 95 is not good for the engine etc..).

He suggested i changed back to Ron 97. I did do that but the petrol price recently jsut hike up again.

So, my question is that, 1)Does using ron 95 really that bad for the engine?

I'm not sure how to compare the cost wise for different grade of fuel but basicly, 2) is it true when he says the maintenance cost will be higher and its much more worthwhile to pay for the higher fuel cost for Ron97?

Appreciate your comments.
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can use ron95 laa.. ur mechanic sinkalan u... retard ur ignition timing a little bit more... change new sparkplugs... should be no problem... make sure ur engine din makan engine oil can adi...
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post Jan 12 2011, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(cadmus @ Jan 12 2011, 02:45 PM)
Hi All,

I currently driving the proton saga Iswara 2007( orange color model).

3 weeks ago, i had some issue when i drove my car. It jerks terribly when it hits 3000rpm at 2nd gear. Since its near the time for me to do my periodic maintenance, i send for maintenance. During the check up, the mechanics found out that its time to change my spark plug as it's filled with carbons deposit. At the same time, i also change the cable for the spark plug and did some maintenance here and there.

Then the mechanic asked me, what petrol i'm using. I told him I'm using Ron95 with some adjustment to the timing. He told me that my car, according to the manual, it is suppose to run on Ron 97. And when i change to Ron 95, the maintenance cost over long period will be higher as the Ron95 will effects my car performance and conditions (i think he is talking about Ron 95 is not good for the engine etc..).

He suggested i changed back to Ron 97. I did do that but the petrol price recently jsut hike up again.

So, my question is that, 1)Does using ron 95 really that bad for the engine?

I'm not sure how to compare the cost wise for different grade of fuel but basicly, 2) is it true when he says the maintenance cost will be higher and its much more worthwhile to pay for the higher fuel cost for Ron97?

Appreciate your comments.
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another sin ka lan forman doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
mine 91 saga out of tune carb and untouch timing since left production line and have must use ron 97 sticker at the fuel cap olso can run 95 and sommore 92 before but got little pinging if uphill and hot day la



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post Jan 12 2011, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 12 2011, 05:35 PM)
something wrong with ur car wiring i guess... somewhere is short circuiting.. if u lazy to find out the cause, disconnect the battery if u leave the car for few days untouched...

its not the battery problem... normal healthy battery should even last for weeks even the engine is not started...
Hi catacombs, thanks for your advice. However, it may still be the battery because the car was manufactured in August 2010 and sold to me in December 2010. So, during those 4-month storage period, it had only clocked 60km before I took delivery and I had only drove a further 85km thereafter. I suspect their technician did not do a proper PDI (pre-delivery inspection) and so did not manually charge up the battery sufficiently prior to the delivery of the car to me. Hence, if the battery had been "sitting idle" for 4 months or more and with not much usage after I took its delivery, its internal condition may deteriorate, not to mention that it is those cheaper lead-acid type (although is maintenance free), but not the "gel" type, which can hold the charge better and for much longer.

Anyway, now that it had been charged for 15 hours, I'll see if it will die again after a week or 2 of non-usage (if there is a chance that I may not use it). I had measured the resistance at the battery terminals (disconnected of course) and it seems to be okay with quite high resistance, although fluctuating, probably because of the immobilizer and alarm units. Should it fail again after a week of non-usage, I'll go to a battery shop to have an analysis and their opinion. I've already given up on those people at the Proton service centre. They can do nothing but only good at trying to avoid responsibilities and liabilities. Regrettably, for as long as this (bad) work attitude remains, Proton's image will never be able to be on par with its competitors, no matter how good their cars can be. Proton is able to have an edge because of price advantage. Otherwise, the name Proton would have been history. Sadly, it's not that they don't try to make good engines, but if those in their service centre are still practicing the "can't be bothered (tidak apa)" mentality, I doubt their after sales service can ever be able to satisfy their customers. Sigh....... mad.gif

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post Jan 12 2011, 08:19 PM

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If upgrade to 15' rims, sure your f.c drop even more << i heard a forumer said this... is it true..??
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QUOTE(evoluzzion @ Jan 12 2011, 08:19 PM)
If upgrade to 15' rims, sure your f.c drop even more << i heard a forumer said this... is it true..??
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wont affect much la...choose 15" taiwan made rims instead of local made, local made will be heavier
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QUOTE(yewwing @ Jan 12 2011, 08:32 PM)
wont affect much la...choose 15" taiwan made rims instead of local made, local made will be heavier
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huhu.. i also dunno mine 15inch r taiwan made or local.. just only know the brand.. dynamic..? local huh..? hehe
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QUOTE(evoluzzion @ Jan 12 2011, 08:37 PM)
huhu.. i also dunno mine 15inch r taiwan made or local.. just only know the brand.. dynamic..? local huh..? hehe
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hahaha i also never heard of the brand dynamic before.
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Any recommended shop in Klang valley for piping? I need to fix my piping cos it's giving me the bursting sound everytime I drop gear. Just changed muffler n center bullet still the same. I suspect pipe or extractor problem.
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 12 2011, 05:35 PM)
something wrong with ur car wiring i guess... somewhere is short circuiting.. if u lazy to find out the cause, disconnect the battery if u leave the car for few days untouched...

its not the battery problem... normal healthy battery should even last for weeks even the engine is not started...
what is engine reterder??...
can use ron95 laa.. ur mechanic sinkalan u... retard ur ignition timing a little bit more... change new sparkplugs... should be no problem... make sure ur engine din makan engine oil can adi...
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haha......use engine power to slowing the car.......that i calling engine retarder...... biggrin.gif


Added on January 12, 2011, 10:20 pm
QUOTE(cadmus @ Jan 12 2011, 02:45 PM)
Hi All,

I currently driving the proton saga Iswara 2007( orange color model).

3 weeks ago, i had some issue when i drove my car. It jerks terribly when it hits 3000rpm at 2nd gear. Since its near the time for me to do my periodic maintenance, i send for maintenance. During the check up, the mechanics found out that its time to change my spark plug as it's filled with carbons deposit. At the same time, i also change the cable for the spark plug and did some maintenance here and there.

Then the mechanic asked me, what petrol i'm using. I told him I'm using Ron95 with some adjustment to the timing. He told me that my car, according to the manual, it is suppose to run on Ron 97. And when i change to Ron 95, the maintenance cost over long period will be higher as the Ron95 will effects my car performance and conditions (i think he is talking about Ron 95 is not good for the engine etc..).

He suggested i changed back to Ron 97. I did do that but the petrol price recently jsut hike up again.

So, my question is that, 1)Does using ron 95 really that bad for the engine?

I'm not sure how to compare the cost wise for different grade of fuel but basicly, 2) is it true when he says the maintenance cost will be higher and its much more worthwhile to pay for the higher fuel cost for Ron97?

Appreciate your comments.
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im use ron95 no hal......bring 9 include me in the car up hill and the acceleration is good.......4G15 summore............

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QUOTE(yewwing @ Jan 12 2011, 08:58 PM)
hahaha i also never heard of the brand dynamic before.
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hehe..if never heard bfore sure its local made rite..? hehe... no wonder since i change to new rim, mcm kuat mkn minyak.. wink.gif shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(netboy @ Jan 12 2011, 09:37 PM)
Any recommended shop in Klang valley for piping? I need to fix my piping cos it's giving me the bursting sound everytime I drop gear. Just changed muffler n center bullet still the same. I suspect pipe or extractor problem.
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i can recommend u to Jiang Hang located at Batu Caves, really a recommend place for exhaust...all the sifoo also go there smile.gif


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QUOTE(evoluzzion @ Jan 12 2011, 10:36 PM)
hehe..if never heard bfore sure its local made rite..? hehe... no wonder since i change to new rim, mcm kuat mkn minyak.. wink.gif  shakehead.gif
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then better change it to taiwan rims tongue.gif

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QUOTE(yewwing @ Jan 12 2011, 10:50 PM)
then better change it to taiwan rims  tongue.gif
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hehe.. no bajet already lor... trying to upgrade other things 1st in my list... that also out out bajet already due to change to new compresor.. huhuhu....

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QUOTE(evoluzzion @ Jan 12 2011, 11:05 PM)
hehe.. no bajet already lor... trying to upgrade other things 1st in my list... that also out out bajet already due to change to new compresor.. huhuhu....
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wooo, what is the things u gonna upgrade? monster stuffs is it drool.gif


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