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SSJBen
post Aug 25 2010, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(doom89757 @ Aug 24 2010, 11:49 PM)
I plan to get a 1TB 3.5" external hdd
I wondering the Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex desk seems good
Any comments on this HDD??
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Standard off-the-mill external HDD.
It does take a little bit of space though you don't use the stand and decide to place it vertically.


Added on August 25, 2010, 4:46 pm
QUOTE(besiegetank @ Aug 25 2010, 01:16 PM)
And here's come the review for 3TB HDD

Seagate 3TB HDD review
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The temperatures.... are scarry. shakehead.gif

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post Aug 25 2010, 05:26 PM

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Now we know why there is no 3TB internal, you need specific mobo to support it.
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post Aug 25 2010, 06:11 PM

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Exactly, looks like the hardware can't catch up with the storage market, hehe
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 25 2010, 05:26 PM)
Now we know why there is no 3TB internal, you need specific mobo to support it.
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I think its been a known fact for quite a while?
Its just that now that there are 3TB HDDs, things will start to be different.


Added on August 25, 2010, 8:25 pm
QUOTE(besiegetank @ Aug 25 2010, 06:11 PM)
Exactly, looks like the hardware can't catch up with the storage market, hehe
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More like... the consumers does not want to change, thus manufacturers don't care in implementing proper technology on their mobos.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 25 2010, 08:23 PM)
More like... the consumers does not want to change, thus manufacturers don't care in implementing proper technology on their mobos.
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It is as same as 64 bit issue.

When there is little advantage of shifting to newer hardware/tech/OS, then there is little reason for people to fork out extra money for it.

It has to do with cost wise as well on both front, customers and manufacturers.
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post Aug 25 2010, 11:17 PM

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What I'm wondering is, can AMD mobos support Intel's EFI?
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post Aug 26 2010, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 25 2010, 05:26 PM)
Now we know why there is no 3TB internal, you need specific mobo to support it.
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hey, a 3TB desktop hdd cannot be a boot drive only right?
but it can be data storage drive for desktop right?

what actually address the LBA?
motherboard? processor? or other? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Aug 26 2010, 01:37 AM)
hey, a 3TB desktop hdd cannot be a boot drive only right?
but it can be data storage drive for desktop right?

what actually address the LBA?
motherboard? processor? or other? unsure.gif
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Yup primary issue is about OS issue.

BIOS.

That's why external come out first.
As in normal circumstance, it is always internal first.

32 bit OS also needs to throw out of window aka XP only recognise 990MB out of 3TB.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/HDD-LBA-G...UEFI,10436.html

The hardware is hitting some limitation, and need to overhaul the current standard to move forward.

But I expect, it will be slow process, as same as 64 bit migration, (even 64 bit has been available for years), we are still stuck with 32 bit across even now.

As there is no urgency to use a 3TB HDD especially for OS disk, you don't require such a capacity for OS.

Correct me if I am wrong. As still new to the issue.
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Some people would like to save pictures and videos over my documents folder that not redirect the folder to some other hard drive.

I started to do that instead of creating multiple partitions.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 26 2010, 10:48 AM)
Yup primary issue is about OS issue.

BIOS.

That's why external come out first.
As in normal circumstance, it is always internal first.

32 bit OS also needs to throw out of window aka XP only recognise 990MB out of 3TB.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/HDD-LBA-G...UEFI,10436.html

The hardware is hitting some limitation, and need to overhaul the current standard to move forward.

But I expect, it will be slow process, as same as 64 bit migration, (even 64 bit has been available for years), we are still stuck with 32 bit across even now.

As there is no urgency to use a 3TB HDD especially for OS disk, you don't require such a capacity for OS.

Correct me if I am wrong. As still new to the issue.
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so is the OS unable to address all the LBA inside a 3 TB hdd?
even with 64bit OS also can't? unsure.gif
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I think that the current BIOS could be the restriction for the 3TB HDD.
If I'm not mistaken, there's actually some mobo out there already taken on the new tech and is ready to move to the next gen of HDD, I think it's just a matter of time before consumer realize it.
IMO, manufacturer should just push this tech onto their mobo, for the enthusiast level first, then slowly pushing the tech to the entry level, just like how those new tech has been doing, is it big deal? USB3, SATA3 (6.0Gbps), etc. Is consumer changing? Yes they're... slowly.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 26 2010, 10:48 AM)
Yup primary issue is about OS issue.

BIOS.

That's why external come out first.
As in normal circumstance, it is always internal first.

32 bit OS also needs to throw out of window aka XP only recognise 990MB out of 3TB.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/HDD-LBA-G...UEFI,10436.html
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The BIOS is not the OS. The OS sits on top of the BIOS. They're working on replacing the old BIOS standard with another standard, EFI, that can handle 64-bit addresses; which should last at least a thousand years of capacity improvements.

It is strange that XP would only recognise 990MB out of a 3TB drive when it could handle 2TB HDDs.

QUOTE(saturn85 @ Aug 26 2010, 05:00 PM)
so is the OS unable to address all the LBA inside a 3 TB hdd?
even with 64bit OS also can't? unsure.gif
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It's not the OS problem. It's a hardware problem on the motherboard.

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 27 2010, 10:15 AM)
I think that the current BIOS could be the restriction for the 3TB HDD.
If I'm not mistaken, there's actually some mobo out there already taken on the new tech and is ready to move to the next gen of HDD, I think it's just a matter of time before consumer realize it.
IMO, manufacturer should just push this tech onto their mobo, for the enthusiast level first, then slowly pushing the tech to the entry level, just like how those new tech has been doing, is it big deal? USB3, SATA3 (6.0Gbps), etc. Is consumer changing? Yes they're... slowly.
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Your recommendation is what the manufacturers have been doing for the last few years, since EFI has been introduced in 2007. They say millions of machines now ship with EFI. At the least, I think all of Apple's hardware that runs on Intel processors uses EFI MBs.

Btw, I got my answer regarding AMD. Seems like they're a founding member of the board that currently administrates the UEFI. Nice and neat on that point.
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QUOTE(everling @ Aug 27 2010, 08:55 PM)
It's not the OS problem. It's a hardware problem on the motherboard.
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so the addressing of the LBA on a hdd is done by the motherboard? unsure.gif
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Can I direct take the Seagate Hdd to the UPS SCS (M) Sdn Bhd at Subang Jaya there for RMA ?
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Aug 27 2010, 10:13 PM)
Can I direct take the Seagate Hdd to the UPS SCS (M) Sdn Bhd at Subang Jaya there for RMA ?
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I am not too sure now, but should create RMA from Seagate website. If it state the return to UPS SCS, then you can bring it there with the RMA reference.
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Where can i order Samsung F4 ?? Can anyone please help.
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I don't think F4 arrive already. Got to wait.
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Did,Seagate and WD got any news on their pricing for HDD?Seem like their product price are higher than others.
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Hello, may i ask what is a performance HDD , ive been reading there's much talk about samsung F3 and WD Black

I'm looking for

1 TB- 2 TB of space
Price below 400
Performance

Reason of using : will be using for 3D software which requires a lot of rendering. Afraid of data corrupting on a hard disk.

Not thinking of velociraptor or SDD [too expensive a this both]

7200 RPM should be fine
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post Aug 30 2010, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(bontotalan @ Aug 30 2010, 01:05 AM)
Hello, may i ask what is a performance HDD , ive been reading there's much talk about samsung F3 and WD Black

I'm looking for

1 TB- 2 TB of space
Price below 400
Performance

Reason of using : will be using for 3D software which requires a lot of rendering. Afraid of data corrupting on a hard disk.

Not thinking of velociraptor or SDD [too expensive a this both]

7200 RPM should be fine
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Samsung F3 2tb i would suggest. It's 5400 rpm but don't let it's spindle speed fool you. It can walk the walk with the other 2tb 7200rpm drives out there nod.gif

Uses less watts, less noise and generates less heat as well, yet price if cheap per gig and performance almost the same as the 2tb 7200rpm drives. Whats not to like thumbup.gif

I am using for storage purposes. If you want for your OS, i would suggest using a single SSD for OS, and use the samsung for storage.


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Thanks but i don't think i can wait. My QNAP 659 just arrived in Malaysia. It may be sent to me today, so seems i will have to settle for the Samsung 2tb F3 :/ oh well.

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