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yehlai
post Dec 5 2010, 08:50 PM

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Why you guys said Samsung HDD is better than WD now ?
im looking for 2TB HDD..
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post Dec 5 2010, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 5 2010, 08:50 PM)
Why you guys said Samsung HDD is better than WD now ?
im looking for 2TB HDD..
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some poison for you..
just look my hdd temperature and how cool 2TB F4EG (HD204UI) brows.gif

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post Dec 6 2010, 09:21 AM

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Hey, was gaming bioshock this morning then the game started to stutter and lag here and there.

50 minutes later I got BSOD.......then my hard disk disappeared from POST dettection.

I turn it off and secure the converter (IDE HDD -> sata) and cables abit then on........okay.

Is the fault lies in the converter cause............getting loose or something or is it overheating after using too long?

the HDD temp 30c - 50c.

icon_question.gif please . Thanks.







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post Dec 6 2010, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(alvinfks78 @ Dec 6 2010, 09:21 AM)
Hey, was gaming bioshock this morning then the game started to stutter and lag here and there.

50 minutes later I got BSOD.......then my hard disk disappeared from POST dettection.

I turn it off and secure the converter (IDE HDD -> sata) and cables abit then on........okay.

Is the fault lies in the converter cause............getting loose or something or is it overheating after using too long?

the HDD temp 30c - 50c.

icon_question.gif please . Thanks.
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Temperature could be a tad high, try to keep below 40C for better performance. icon_rolleyes.gif
Buy cheap fans, prefer 12cm (120mm) to give a better airflow, should be around ~RM15

And the loose of cable is also one problem,
How long has you been using the cable?
Is your hard disk vibrate really hard during operation?
You could try use rubber silicon glue (or equivalent, BUT NOT super glue) to hold it in place (few drops), it should hold it but still able to detach if needed to. (cheapo way whistling.gif )
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post Dec 6 2010, 10:03 AM

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hi guys ... wanna ask something about mine HDD

now i having a WD 1 TB black.Edition ....
if i wanna add 1 more WD 1 TB black.edition and boot at the same time when computer start ....
means the preformance can be faster....

how to do tat
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post Dec 6 2010, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Z-hotlink @ Dec 6 2010, 10:03 AM)
hi guys ... wanna ask something about mine HDD

now i having a WD 1 TB black.Edition ....
if i wanna add 1 more WD 1 TB black.edition and boot at the same time when computer start ....
means the preformance can be faster....

how to do tat
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Do you mean RAID 0? Then read this to understand RAID. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
And, read this to get yourself started. >> http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=830

Remember that by setup RAID on your current HDD means your HDD will be emptied for RAID construction, backup your files before you start anything.

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Dec 6 2010, 10:17 AM
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post Dec 6 2010, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 6 2010, 10:51 AM)
Temperature could be a tad high, try to keep below 40C for better performance. icon_rolleyes.gif
Buy cheap fans, prefer 12cm (120mm) to give a better airflow, should be around ~RM15

And the loose of cable is also one problem,
  How long has you been using the cable?
  Is your hard disk vibrate really hard during operation?
You could try use rubber silicon glue (or equivalent, BUT NOT super glue) to hold it in place (few drops), it should hold it but still able to detach if needed to. (cheapo way whistling.gif )
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Hey thanks for answer. didn't know this stuff can be causes....need to go back and observe notworthy.gif smile.gif thanks
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post Dec 6 2010, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(lok3i @ Dec 5 2010, 10:25 PM)
some poison for you..
just look my hdd temperature and how cool 2TB F4EG (HD204UI) brows.gif
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run cooler only?
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post Dec 7 2010, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 6 2010, 11:11 PM)
run cooler only?
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Did you expect it to beat a SSD?

The best features of samsungs drives are the 'coolness' of it. My F1, F2 and F3s all run pretty cool laugh.gif
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post Dec 7 2010, 03:16 AM

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but is it very very reliable?
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post Dec 8 2010, 10:31 AM

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hi...
what the difference between sata and sata II

if i used sata hardisk can i use sata II hardisk
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post Dec 8 2010, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(xirmain @ Dec 8 2010, 10:31 AM)
hi...
what the difference between sata and sata II

if i used sata hardisk can i use sata II hardisk
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Yes you can.

Sata I,II,III difference is the interface speed they can deliver.

But HDD limitation come from its speed ability itself aka write/read within itself, not the interface of Sata.

Just like a car that has top speed on 120km/h,
putting the car into a highway that can drive 120km/h vs 240km/h, make little difference.
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post Dec 8 2010, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 7 2010, 03:16 AM)
but is it very very reliable?
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This question has no solid answer, some people find phobia in certain brand due to too many RMA history.
Some just fan of a brand, nothing else, reliability all depends on luck, IMHO.
But according to Toms Hardware HDD reliability research, Hitachi seems to be the most reliable, again they conclude this figure can only be taken as grain of salt as it's only based on limited market and not as a whole (you can't really do that actually).
Recently Samsung HDD is popular due to its competitive pricing and the "coolness" of its drive.

And oh, RAID (not the 0, stripped) will compensate for the reliability of the HDD.
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post Dec 8 2010, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 8 2010, 10:35 AM)
Yes you can.

Sata I,II,III difference is the interface speed they can deliver.

But HDD limitation come from its speed ability itself aka write/read within itself, not the interface of Sata.

Just like a car that has top speed on 120km/h,
putting the car into a highway that can drive 120km/h vs 240km/h, make little difference.
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tq..

that clear the thing....


Added on December 8, 2010, 11:39 am[quote=xirmain,Dec 8 2010, 11:35 AM]

so is there a difference the connector fro sata and sata II
from the hardisk to motherboard


This post has been edited by xirmain: Dec 8 2010, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 7 2010, 04:16 AM)
but is it very very reliable?
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the answer is very subjective and its all depends on luck one.
so far i used maxtor <- very old IDE drive
Seagate 7200.8 & 7200.10
WD Green & Blue HDD
Samsung F3
all are fine.
except one Hitachi brand the hdd keep give crocking sound sweat.gif
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post Dec 8 2010, 02:23 PM

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Speedfan http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
HDDScan http://hddscan.com/
Speedfan allows comparing your SMART results to online database for more suggestive informations.
HDDScan, external hard disk cannot retrieve SMART? This software supports all, even monitor your external hard disk temperature, cool? Hell yeah~

These 2 software are the most that I used to retrieve the SMART info from my hard disk. Speedfan even allow you to compare your result to online database for more information.
If you feel performance drop, watch for "Relocated sectors count" or "Pending sectors count", these 2 by far is what make the hard disk slows down, even with fresh installed windows, it still slows down after few hours usage. So don't think SMART is not much of a use, it's a preventive warning to your precious data.

If possible TS please put these information on the first page, thanks thumbup.gif

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post Dec 8 2010, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(xirmain @ Dec 8 2010, 11:35 AM)
so is there a difference the connector fro sata and sata II
from the hardisk to motherboard
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Still the same port/cable.
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post Dec 9 2010, 08:25 AM

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Hitachi External HDD ? Good or not ?
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post Dec 9 2010, 08:31 AM

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Not Bad~
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post Dec 9 2010, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(li_5997 @ Dec 9 2010, 08:31 AM)
Not Bad~
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