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post Jun 29 2010, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 29 2010, 11:12 AM)
Look what happened to the Kia Forte. It had more publicity than the Sonata and it was more competitively priced with great specs. But yet after more than a year since its launch it still only sells about 500+ units per month. For the whole of 2010 only 2241 units were sold in comparison with 13,285 units of the Vios for the same period. Even the Camry sold 5277 units for that period.
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Well... I guess the production capacity does limit the Forte's sales... Imagine having only 1 factory trying to churn on cars for two great value cars... (forte and 308)... moreover i don't think it is a big factory at that too...
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post Jul 5 2010, 04:01 PM

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SS2 has one hyundai showroom, else D'sara Perdana also has another. not too sure if they have the sonata but SS2 surely has coz has test driven it there...
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post Jul 5 2010, 05:12 PM

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i don't know for sure on the numbers, but i know at least my friend booked it once he test drove it... i would have done the same if not for the pug that i have booked... yes i can cancel it and book the sonata instead but i love the power on the pug and obviously the electronics!

anyway i find that torque is somewhat missing on the lower end of the curve but step on it, you can feel it moving but really really steady and apart from the engine noise (rather loud)...

compared with H Acc, yes the interior is not as futuristic as the Acc but i think the Acc is over cluttered with buttons... Sonata is simple and clean with the glossy black plastics... yes the color black may be dull but contrast it with white outlook is the color of the year...

hyundai in malaysia after sales is still alright (have one getz at home)... just naza that is poor (kia and pug)... yes the FC is bad for Getz but service centers (depending where) is quite alright...
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post Jul 5 2010, 05:28 PM

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probably whould just wait for the next optima... since it would essentially be the same thing except for it is CKD and it would be the garang version and not the sleek version... tongue.gif
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post Jul 6 2010, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(titarium @ Jul 6 2010, 10:41 AM)
Sonata vs H.Acc vs Toyota Camry (Basic)
135k vs 142 k vs 144k

the difference is too small no big hua

Thou Sonata is on the same segment the price positioning doesn't give a big HuHa.

Can't deny the Sonata is nice in design, but SD always didn't place it at a nice position just like Avante; only have beige color quite apek - in my opinion, while world wide is selling like hot cakes ; eg Singapore 2nd best seller after FORTE.

FORTE gave an impact impression cause a different segment and a cheaper price.

I believe korean car have to position them self lower due to their previous after sales reputation , For Sonata I am expecting about 5-10k cheaper from the existing price then we see a waiting list of 1-2 months queuing

A few existing Sonata owner (friends & relative) hinted will go for this Sonata when is time to change theirs, thou the mouth still complaining about SC but after warranty go outside to service no issue wink.gif
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IMHO, SD is just pushing the price based on the global sales performance of this car... look at the previous sonata sold by SD, they are not more than 130k for the 2.4l high specs... Bumping it to by around 30k for each specs does tell you that they are trying to piggyback on current global hype... not that it is not worth that much but i think it is a little greedy of SD to do that... probably they are trying to recoup some losses made by their plantation side... i don't know... but it is much more expensive than what was communicated internally... (not that i am not a sales man nor i work with SD, just heard from some internal sources)...
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post Jul 6 2010, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(titarium @ Jul 6 2010, 11:20 AM)
maybe backup plan price remain, free maintenance for 2/3 years or/and 5 years solid warranty without mileage consideration would this be great ?!

from the stock market kaki's view Sime Darby is only good in plantation - haha, they are venturing in so many segment not sure can they handle it ( water treatment, power generation , properties, Health Care .. ) hrmm which division made a lost ? motoring ? utilities ? property ?
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i thought the older gen of sonata also have the 5yrs warranty (abeit 300k km only but that is more than the life time spent on the car owning)... look elsewhere (US) the sonata comes with a 10yr warranty if i am not mistaken...
They lost it on group level but the losses are actually coming from the plantation (after the merger)... they did not explicitly tell everyone that is coming from plantations but those who are in touch should know... wink.gif
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post Jul 8 2010, 06:38 PM

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just get the car already... BNM has just increase interest rates by another 25bps (0.25%)... guess the banks will raise their rates as soon as next week probably...
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post Jul 13 2010, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(sweetpea123 @ Jul 12 2010, 10:05 AM)
PM FROM THE CLOWNMASTER IN RESPONSE TO MY POST :
"""""""""""""" I have a firm belief that PROPERTY & GOLD hold a much better investment return compared to buying expensive cars (which is always a loss). Just because you do not share the same sentiment due to your weaker financial capability doesnt give u the right to accuse me of lying.

As i said before to many others, do take up the dare with me and i will gladly silence you. Maybe u would like to come over to Taman Tun Dr Ismail, KL and view my property? We could then go for a drink in my beloved Vios.

If not, do shut up. Cheers! """"""""""""
My reply : Y-A-W-N !!!!!
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I share you sentiments on investments...You have to agree that not everyone does everything for accumulation of wealth (definitely not for the 150k they spend on their cars)... But this is afterall a Fast and Furious thread forum... thus talking about not wasting resource for something that they are pasionate and love i think is a little off for this kinda forums...

Anyway really good choice in your investment... really...


QUOTE(sonyman @ Jul 13 2010, 08:03 AM)
thats because if they wanna buy a car this range, they dont care about our petty opinions here,
This are for young people. groups of civic and city, vios and altis. naza forte and so on...
Uncle where got time to browse and read about camry and accord. They just go buy the car they like and want
and drive it and dont care about people talking about their cars.
So thats why no camry and accord here. same goes with peugeot 407 and 3008.
but sonata is different. it is a new beginning of an era of a great car maker, making its way into the world.
That is why there is so much fuss about it. The world is witnessing a once used to be P1 standard, slowly taking over the world
first with sexy cars, then great service, and abundance spare parts..... that was how T and H and N did first in the entire world.
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actually you are right and wrong... not that they don't discuss, just not here at lyn... you would have to scour the net and see that there are ppl taking about these specific cars that you have mentioned... just that lyn forumers have a different focus and they probably have establised a forum site as their "base"... much like what autoworld forum "Peugeot Forum" is for peugeot 407 and 3008 (and definitely 308 and all)... you would be suprised that the thread movement is faster that some of these popular car make threads here... as for sonata, i dont see how you can say is different... probably there is not a single place for all hyundai owners to talk about it just yet... (tho autoworld "Korean Make" sub forum is quite popular i think...) as for the right part, probably (and just probablly) that the ppl here are younger...

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post Jul 13 2010, 06:05 PM

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i personally feel dedicated sites will die off when eventuality happens (when these cars aren't loved anymore or when the owners get a new ride)... that is why lyn is quite a popular forum as it is borderless (you can crap anything you want and not really restrictive to one common brand. this way you would attract a lot more ppl to just read and probably reply to a thread even they have no significant passion... ) smile.gif
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post Jul 14 2010, 02:19 PM

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I suspected the problem is the low end torque of the engine... yes it produces a healthy torque and power but i think it is only accessible 4k rpm onwards... did speed it at penchala and it feels sluggish at 2k - 3k rpm... push it more you can feel the power flowing through 4k rpm onwards... but that comes with the noise too... did a quick check and max power is @ 6.2krpm and max torque is @ 4.6krpm... so it does confirm my beliefs that the car is pretty much sluggish on the lower end of your rev range...

anyway it feels much better than the 2.0 accord or camry imho... tested those two as well a couple of months back...

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post Jul 15 2010, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jul 14 2010, 11:57 PM)
No offense,but this is just my opinion on the new Sonata.
Went to glenmarie showroom last week and sat and test drove the new sonata.
IMHO,the interior quality is way way way below that of the Japs.Somehow,it just felt not solidly put together especially the center dash.
The leather seats were of very low quality.Just by looking at it,I could feel that the leather was those cheapo type.
The seat was those cheap soft sponge type.So basically not much support .Once you sit on it,the seat kinda goes down way too much.
Then we go to the exterior of the car.THe car looks great in pictures and in brochures,but when you see it in real life,can really see the reallife quality.The chrome section on the front looks good in pictures but in real life,its just a cheap looking chrome piece .Compare that side by side with a chrome from a Jap make and you can see the big difference.
Then i test drove the 2.4.Honestly speaking,the power was ok but somehow dint have the surge or the exhilliration of driving a Mazda 6 or a Camry 2.4.In short, it was just a boring 2.4 short of character compared to Jap rivals.
Steering felt ok,but overall experience I just felt that I was sitting in another cheap Korean car.The interior design just dint cut it for me.It felt old and does not feel like a RM 160k++ car.
Korean cars are becoming better and better ,thats a fact,but still no where near the Jap rivals IMHO in terms of quality,interior design & engine technology.
If the whole world has only the Hyundai Sonata and I had spare cash lying around,would I buy the Sonata? Its a definate NO .
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You are right bout the blandness in driving (on low speeds only) but my opinion is that the interior is great looking... Yes, the steering wheel could be improved (din particularly like the steering) but i don't feel the center dash not solidly put together as you have described... The interior design is great looking... not cluttered and not too many buttons... the glossy black plastics looks really good...

Leather is on the soft side but it is to provide comfort and not bucket seat dude... they reason why you are feeling like they are giving soft sponge is that they are giving more leather hide rather than stretch it... maybe i am on the heavy side so this give me a good support feeling...

Chrome is just what it is man... chrome... i don't see how camry's front grille chrome is much better than those of the sonata's.

Well, one man's poison is another man's food... thanks for the honest opinion...
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post Jul 15 2010, 10:13 AM

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For me, my friend just got one... wouldn't have minded going for it if not for my new Pug coming soon... Seriously thinking about the upcoming optima and the pug 508...
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post Jul 26 2010, 02:26 PM

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to the still korean skeptics...

http://star-motoring.com/blog/permalink.asp?id=1335
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post Jul 29 2010, 08:15 PM

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make sure it is done soon... my friend said his OT claim was rejected by the sa's boss... was rejected coz din really trade in his car or something along those lines...
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post Aug 3 2010, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 3 2010, 11:07 AM)
Top 10 non-national vehicles in Malaysia for June 2010
(Overall sales for 2010 in brackets)
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