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3Gs or 3g bro?
if 3gs go ahead but 3g i'm not too sure cos many ppl using 3g got lagging using ios 4

This post has been edited by kyoriam: Jul 13 2010, 05:21 PM

hehehe... more for us
yeah, I've still got my 3G. when the iPhone4 is in my hands... i dunno what to do with the 3G.
yeah DG, like you said, I also have no issues with EDGE / battery drain and whatever...

I think i'll use it as a mircophone (Skype) for overseas client chat and MP3 player for home while the iPhone 4 for daily common usage. Would like to get the 32GB model as i do hav loads of trance music to keep myself busy listening and creating tunes.

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Jul 13 2010, 05:27 PM

hmm some of the recent posts here seem to be more inclined towards finding trivial problems rather than looking at the bigger picture, folks get a grip you guys are never gonna buy a phone from AT&T or experience their signal pitfalls, even if its not an iphone any other phones on AT&T network report signal loss or dropped calls issue, so till we have our local Telcos offer them on a wide scale basis im not going to be judgmental, those whom bought it and currently using it have said good things about coverage,except for bro masamune, so yeah feel free to get other phones if you are afraid of this trivial matter, its just a freaking phone the problem it has will not put your life in jeopardy or affects your daily life in anyway or bring peace to the world, and rest assured that this post is coming from a Nokia 1208 user.

I am experiencing the antenna problem over here in UK. But with my silicone case on its fine. I still love it nevertheless. Waiting for the update from Apple. If it doesnt fix it then I am heading back to Apple.

Whether or not it depends on TELCO I am not sure but apparently I am not the only one experiencing it at the moment. By the way I just got my Iphone4 yesterday and played until 2am this morning!

Retinal display is absolutely brilliant! Hope this will paint the right picture

glad you have yours. do you use the microsim or did you cut your sim card?

I am using O2 microsim that i got (for free, pay as you go) and i have no problems so far.

My colleague who is on Orange has no problem as well and he is using it without any case.

I have lost count on answering the antenna issue.... . But seriously I dun encounter antena issue. If any of u guys want to test it and to clear the antenna doubt, do pm me and I will let u test it.

No drop test.

Yeah, I think I am the few unlucky ones out there. Well, I have 13 days to return them. HIHI!

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Added on July 13, 2010, 6:43 pmI am using O2 pay as u go simcard by the way

This post has been edited by giovanni: Jul 13 2010, 06:43 PM

i see. I tried using mine without the bumper and no problem for me tho. Well, underneath the bumper there is still ZAGG invisible shield full protection layer

Quite the character. So those who decide to wait out are all deemed skeptical? I guess everytime something comes out we all gotta act all kancheong and be the first to enjoy it before everyone else. Whatever happened to being patient, while making an informed decision ?

If you consider the hampering of a PHONE's BASIC function to make and receive calls, or surf the net on 3G, or etc while holding it trivial then by all means. But at least you're acknowledging there IS a problem.

And btw, AT&T is not the only network on which this problem has been identified on;

Optus @ Australia:
http://www.iphoneinaustralia.com/iphone-ne...with-optus.html

Vodafone @ Australia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjFMhhM2_tg

O2 @ UK:
http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4192...=asc&start=3840
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ3MxQfgfOE


Softbank @ Japan (Not so severe)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK_2Ac_iCwQ


Consumer Reports already stated its a DESIGN flaw, not a network flaw... Please remember Consumer Reports.org were ALSO the ones that scored the iPhone 4 higher than its main competition.

All im saying is that there is a prevalent problem, and while im very well aware that it does not affect ALL phones, the problem is there. But that doesnt mean it shouldnt be made aware of. People are going to pay a lot of money in this thing, why shouldnt they be allowed to know what the pro's n cons?

now we need malaysian iphone 4 users to do a vid to prove that iphone 4 is working fine eventhough they covered the so called "antenna" with palm without a bumper or casing...

please stop saying that iphone 4 is working fine in mas...we need prove on it...

consumer report already reported this case...i guess i will wait till they fix it then i will get one for myself...why we need to waste money on those defected products?

This post has been edited by elainor: Jul 13 2010, 07:43 PM

Really "Quite the character" ?. Well, if you don't know me, DON'T judge me.

If you feel that what i wrote hurt you in anyway, my appologies. Btw, i wrote it for those in general who is worried about those issues.

Anyway, You decide. It's your money. You can be patient all you want but many of us already know that it works here.

And..thank you very much for those links. It's good that you found those infos. It helps buyers to think twice before purchasing the iPhone 4. Maybe, we should wait for a report from our local newpaper or bloggers if the iPhone 4 does have those issues after it's offficailly launch here. Will be a good way to wait it out as well.

BUT..for many of us, we are buying the iPhone 4 regardless. Weather this year or the year after.

Cheers and have a good day.

Info for everyone on the reception issue- Our own iPhone 4 users (beavis68, harmeet15, stringfellow) and benny888 explaination: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1470748/+360

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Jul 14 2010, 03:04 AM

Well I for one will certainly wait it out. Some more reports :

"Consumer Reports confirms iPhone 4 antenna problems -- and so do we" - Engadget

QUOTE

Although there's never been any question that there's something going on with the iPhone 4's fancy new antenna system, we really haven't seen any rigorous testing confirming that the issue is real, severe, and affects every phone. That just changed: Consumer Reports tested three iPhone 4s and several other AT&T phones in their RF isolation chamber that simulates varying levels of signal from every carrier, and found that the iPhone 4 was the only handset to suffer signal-loss issues. What's more, CR directly says that its findings call Apple's explanation of a miscalculated signal meter into question since the tests "indicate that AT&T's network might not be the primary suspect." CR found that simply putting duct tape over the bottom-left corner is enough to alleviate the issue -- we're guessing that's Jony Ive's worst nightmare -- and says that while the iPhone 4 has the "sharpest display and best video camera" of any phone it's tested, it simply can't recommend the device until Apple comes up with a permanent and free fix to the antenna problem. Ouch.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consume...lems-and-so-do/

It is very simple. If you still have doubt, sit it out and wait. Those who don't mind this issue and can accept it with say using a bumper or hold it another way just go ahead. There is no point debating. If the answers you are expecting does not satisfy you, don't buy it. You can always get other smart phones.
Frankly the sales is still so good Steve Jobs couln't be bother anymore whether you are happy or not with what Apple had been explaining or what other reviewers are saying.
For me now knowing all these issues, I will still buy it because the other features are outstanding too. It is not that you cannot use it to call, anyway Malaysian users so far are positive. I was with them at KLCC and tested it and would just say as a non
owner yet, didn't find any signals dropping issues
Continued debate on this issue will not improve it if it has a hardware problem. Let's leave it to Apple to resolve whatever thro software or an improvement in the subsequent production

Infact , I quote " If you were looking for a message thread on Apple's support forums pointing to Consumer Reports' article 'not recommending' the iPhone 4, it's not there any more. Apple's support forum moderators deleted the thread. " http://www.tuaw.com/2010/07/12/apple-drops...wn-memory-hole/

So simply Apple does not want anyone to discuss anymore it at their forum - call it unprofessional, protective whatever - you get the picture ?

This post has been edited by benny888: Jul 13 2010, 08:42 PM

Hope I can help you with this report :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/appl...ware-issue.html

They claim that AppleCare stated that software update will not fix the signal problems.

Anyway, I can't resist myself from sharing this gadget.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/tech...te-control.html

So cool.

Lets talk about demographics shall we? Its interesting that you have gone as far as you did with those link to disapprove my assessment that its an At&t problem, still i dont see how At&t's incompetence over dropped calls with other phones could be rectified through your reasoning? my point of contention is, if it could happen to other phones why not that particular telco problem affect the iPhone 4(does it somehow feature and in built mechanism that could solve At&t's woes?).

Look here buddy, they sold 1.7 million phones, even 1% defective sets equate to 170,000, but i doubt the margin of error would be that high, and like it or not everything you and i have be it electronics or food is manufactured on an assembly line, and subsequently called mass production, thats how cost are kept low and there is still that margin of error even Beemers have issues, especially the N52 engine blocks on the E60, but does that mean people have to stop buying Beemers? No, they still do what is it then? Could it be BMW's awesome distortion field that make people buy the 5 series irregardless of the problem? No, people are not sheep or mindless drones that are steered by the likes of Apple or BMW, they buy it because they want it and could also live with the flaws and also the good that comes out of it be it sheer driving pleasure or a phone that could do everything you'll ever need on a portable device.

I told you before, till the day Maxis and Digi sell the iPhone 4 en masse, i will keep my judgement to myself, if there is a problem then fine i'll just send it in for a warranty claim or RMA, i have already decided that my 3K goes there why should i backoff midway? People out there would have already known about the issue through the Press, no matter how much you expound here, we kinda already knew about the problem exsists way before our local Star covered it, and your point is? I dont know about you but i for one do a thorough research about something before i buy something, i dont have to be fed by someone i barely know on the internet except for the select few i have befriended over the years here at applebyte(you guys know who you are ), no offense but i feel the Press(non biased ones with no bones to pick(AnandTech/Cnet/WSJ)) more newsworthy.

Lastly, do not fret the iPhone is not the last phone in the planet, Apple does not send out agents that put gun on yer head to get you to buy one, your wallets are safe people, get other phones that let you do whatever you wanna do in a phone and motivates you to not worry so much how its problem affect your daily life or the need to do a good in this world by yelping your heart in a public forum how it is the root of all evil.

This post has been edited by nimrod323: Jul 13 2010, 09:10 PM

Actually why is everybody so worked up about people sitting and wait for problem to go by and people keep saying haha I don't care I am going to use it first 1 year earlier than all of you all I enjoy it so much. Then say who wants to wait then just wait in a sarcastic manner.

The Iphone 4 has not even reach our shores or close to our shores of course people in Malaysia is still going to sit around waiting and asking questions.

Not quite sure how to respond to this, as I don't even know who's side you are on lol.

It should be fair to say its a FLAW by now after confirmation by so many reviewers. However, its hard to say how will this FLAW affect you.

For example, a few lucky Iphone4 owners already confirm they had zero issues with it. Well, maybe we are lucky that our network coverage is good and strong which made it a non issue with the drop in signal strength which is not enough to interupt calls OR maybe it really depends on our whereabout and respective network coverage and signal strength for particular area.

Bottom line, design is FLAWED to begin with, as proven by scientific tests. Upper line is the FLAW might or might not affect you at all.

No one disputes this. However, I think people are missing the point.

The point is that, this has all been discussed, concluded, end of story. The info is there. Want to buy, go buy. Don't want to buy, don't buy. If not sure, wait. Not difficult right? And in between, there is a wealth of information, with the simple use of a search function.

Now, what gets on people's nerves is people who keep bringing this up. No one is defending blindly. You want someone pro iPhone 4? Go back few pages, you will find. You want someone against iPhone 4, because of antenna issue? Go back few pages, you will also find.

Rather than beat a dead horse, lets concentrate on discussion that adds value.