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TSgn9746203
post Jun 18 2010, 06:27 PM, updated 16y ago

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Hey guys i just learn how to oc my cpu and i wanted to give it a try on ram.... what is the difference between them?
Especially the timing thing and the ratio of FSB rclxub.gif ... can some1 explain to me so i know how i start and software to check the performance increase ?
I saw some1 post the pic b4 but i do not know what is it....
Perharps some article... I found a great one but it had been delete while i am delete...
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post Jun 18 2010, 07:36 PM

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What your hardware specification first?
Then go search for particular thread that are existed in OCU.

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post Jun 18 2010, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jun 18 2010, 07:36 PM)
What your hardware specification first?
Then go search for particular thread that are existed in OCU.

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post Jun 19 2010, 12:25 PM

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Why u wanna OC your ram only? OC your CPU by bringing up the FSB will also OC your ram together is u have a 1:1 divider~
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post Jun 20 2010, 05:51 PM

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here is an article about RAM timing:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Und...-RAM-Timings/26
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post Jun 20 2010, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(amyhs99 @ Jun 19 2010, 12:25 PM)
Why u wanna OC your ram only? OC your CPU by bringing up the FSB will also OC your ram together is u have a 1:1 divider~
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i need faster memory seriously... that is why i wanna oc it... for the 1:1 divider i dont really understand how to do it and i is why i post this thread


Added on June 20, 2010, 7:31 pm
QUOTE(amyhs99 @ Jun 19 2010, 12:25 PM)
Why u wanna OC your ram only? OC your CPU by bringing up the FSB will also OC your ram together is u have a 1:1 divider~
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thx~ i will take a look

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post Jun 20 2010, 08:10 PM

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fsb:dram ratio is something like multiplier. it works like this:

base clock x dram multiplier = dram clock

let say in this setting:
cpu in stock setting = 2.4GHz, 266MHz base clock,
fsb:dram = 1:1 = 1/1 = 1
base clock x dram multiplier = dram clock
266 x 1 = 266MHz
for this setting, your dram clock is 266MHz.

let say another setting:
cpu in stock setting = 2.4GHz, 266MHz base clock,
fsb:dram = 2:3 = 3/2 = 1.5
base clock x dram multiplier = dram clock
266 x 1.5 = 400MHz
for this setting, your dram clock is 400MHz

let say another setting:
cpu in overclocking setting = 3.0GHz, 333MHz base clock,
fsb:dram = 1:1 = 1/1 = 1
base clock x dram multiplier = dram clock
333 x 1 = 333MHz
for this setting, your dram clock is 333MHz
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post Jun 21 2010, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Jun 20 2010, 08:10 PM)
fsb:dram ratio is something like multiplier. it works like this:

base clock x dram multiplier = dram clock

let say in this setting:
cpu in stock setting = 2.4GHz, 266MHz base clock,
fsb:dram = 1:1 = 1/1 = 1
base clock x dram multiplier = dram clock
266 x 1 = 266MHz
for this setting, your dram clock is 266MHz.

let say another setting:
cpu in stock setting = 2.4GHz, 266MHz base clock,
fsb:dram = 2:3 = 3/2 = 1.5
base clock x dram multiplier = dram clock
266 x 1.5 = 400MHz
for this setting, your dram clock is 400MHz

let say another setting:
cpu in overclocking setting = 3.0GHz, 333MHz base clock,
fsb:dram = 1:1 = 1/1 = 1
base clock x dram multiplier = dram clock
333 x 1 = 333MHz
for this setting, your dram clock is 333MHz
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my OC setting is 3.01GHZ with 333MHz base clock
fsb:dram show in CPUZ is 5:6 6/5=1.2

so my dram clock is 333x1.2=400MHz ....


so i need to try make it 1:1 ? or any guide ?
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post Jun 21 2010, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(gn9746203 @ Jun 21 2010, 07:13 PM)
my OC setting is 3.01GHZ with 333MHz base clock
fsb:dram show in CPUZ is 5:6 6/5=1.2

so my dram clock is 333x1.2=400MHz ....
so i need to try make it 1:1 ? or any guide ?
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its ok, just let your ram run at 400MHz, since your ram is DDR2 800.
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post Jun 22 2010, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Jun 21 2010, 09:41 PM)
its ok, just let your ram run at 400MHz, since your ram is DDR2 800.
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I wan it run faster... I need faster memory... any guide ?
Perhaps change to 64bit and install more ram is a better idea ? 4GB is not enough for me ....
1 more question is different brand RAM install together will cause conflict right ?
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post Jun 22 2010, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(gn9746203 @ Jun 22 2010, 01:32 AM)
I wan it run faster... I need faster memory... any guide ?
Perhaps change to 64bit and install more ram is a better idea ? 4GB is not enough for me ....
1 more question is different brand RAM install together will cause conflict right ?
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what application you are using? 4gb ram still not enough?
not sure about the conflict.
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post Jun 22 2010, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Jun 22 2010, 02:38 AM)
what application you are using? 4gb ram still not enough?
not sure about the conflict.
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i really do not know why it goes so high ...actually it eat all my ram...
1 antivirus with some online game only....
i guess my system is virus free.... weird
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post Jun 22 2010, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(gn9746203 @ Jun 22 2010, 03:28 AM)
i really do not know why it goes so high ...actually it eat all my ram...
1 antivirus with some online game only....
i guess my system is virus free.... weird
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you using windows 7 32 bit version?
how much is your ram usage? hmm.gif
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32bit normally they will reserve some memory so you won't get to use all of it


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post Jun 22 2010, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Jun 22 2010, 05:37 PM)
you using windows 7 32 bit version?
how much is your ram usage?   hmm.gif
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i am a heavy online game player... i open about 4 online game together it use up to 3G ram


Added on June 22, 2010, 6:18 pm
QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 22 2010, 06:05 PM)
32bit normally they will reserve some memory so you won't get to use all of it
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yea it reserved about 700mb... it is killing me

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post Jun 22 2010, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(gn9746203 @ Jun 22 2010, 06:18 PM)
i am a heavy online game player... i open about 4 online game together it use up to 3G ram
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i see., i think in this case you may consider change to 64bit windows, but make sure those online game support 64bit windows, if not you cannot play also.
i think overclock ram didn't help much in this problem, because even you can overclock your ram to DDR2 1200, but it also eat up to 3gb ram when you load all your online game. just the bandwidth will be wider and the data rate will be faster only.
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post Jun 22 2010, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Jun 22 2010, 06:49 PM)
i see., i think in this case you may consider change to 64bit windows, but make sure those online game support 64bit windows, if not you cannot play also.
i think overclock ram didn't help much in this problem, because even you can overclock your ram to DDR2 1200, but it also eat up to 3gb ram when you load all your online game. just the bandwidth will be wider and the data rate will be faster only.
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thx bro i will consider about that... i think it support 64 bit
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QUOTE(gn9746203 @ Jun 22 2010, 07:51 PM)
thx bro i will consider about that... i think it support 64 bit
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Yea... He's rite...
Make a change to 64bits...
den do 2 dual wif 8gb RAM...
The performance will impress u^^
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post Jun 30 2010, 11:38 AM

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wow...8gb of ram??.... that is serious gamer we got smile.gif
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post Jul 7 2010, 03:11 PM

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tumpang thread + identical question biggrin.gif

I managed to isolate the BCLK, multiplier and Vcore. So now I'm heading towards the RAM section.

Current progress

BCLK = 200MHz
CPU multiplier = 19
Turbo Boost disabled
EIST disabled
C1E disabled
DRAM timings = AUTO (9-9-9-24)
DRAM ratio = 4
QPI ratio = Auto
Load Line Calibration disabled
CPU voltage = 1.376V
DRAM voltage = 1.565V ----------------------> FAILS IBT
CPU VTT = 1.25V --------------------------------> FAILS IBT
CPU PLL voltage = Auto
PCH voltage = AUTO (1.05V)

So now I'm stuck at isolating the above pointed out bold...do you have any method to quickly isolate these? Currently I'm slowly increasing the DRAM Voltage 1 step at a time...

Any clues?

Oh my thread is @ HERE
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post Jul 9 2010, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(LAU Fantasy @ Jun 29 2010, 09:39 AM)
Yea... He's rite...
Make a change to 64bits...
den do 2 dual wif 8gb RAM...
The performance will impress u^^
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try 8gb of ram before? brows.gif
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Jun 20 2010, 08:10 PM)
fsb:dram ratio is something like multiplier. it works like this:

base clock x dram multiplier = dram clock

let say in this setting:
cpu in stock setting = 2.4GHz, 266MHz base clock,
fsb:dram = 1:1 = 1/1 = 1
base clock x dram multiplier = dram clock
266 x 1 = 266MHz
for this setting, your dram clock is 266MHz.

let say another setting:
cpu in stock setting = 2.4GHz, 266MHz base clock,
fsb:dram = 2:3 = 3/2 = 1.5
base clock x dram multiplier = dram clock
266 x 1.5 = 400MHz
for this setting, your dram clock is 400MHz

let say another setting:
cpu in overclocking setting = 3.0GHz, 333MHz base clock,
fsb:dram = 1:1 = 1/1 = 1
base clock x dram multiplier = dram clock
333 x 1 = 333MHz
for this setting, your dram clock is 333MHz
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thanks..it help me lot
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QUOTE(azlibest @ Jul 17 2010, 10:50 PM)
thanks..it help me lot
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you are welcome.
actually read more on the web, you will know about many things.
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QUOTE(gn9746203 @ Jun 22 2010, 06:18 PM)
i am a heavy online game player... i open about 4 online game together it use up to 3G ram


Added on June 22, 2010, 6:18 pm
yea it reserved about 700mb... it is killing me
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may i know wat game is tat? u mean u open 4 online same game or 4 online different game?and is there is 64bit game? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Jul 17 2010, 11:51 PM)
may i know wat game is tat?  u mean u open 4 online same game or 4 online different game?and is there is 64bit game? hmm.gif
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there's not many 64bit game.

the one that i encounter before is just crysis.there are others tho
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post Jul 18 2010, 02:25 PM

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it is 4 same online game..... what i mean is it support 64 bit os

 

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