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Philosophy Nostradamus 101, His Prediction and current event

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VMSmith
post Jun 14 2010, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Miri-Sarawak @ Jun 14 2010, 10:47 AM)
When fish and other land and sea life,
By force will be put upon the beach by a strong wave,
Its form will appear strange, oily and horrible,
Coming by seawater very steadily it shall climb the walls as an enemy.
This refer to Gulf of Mexico Oil spill..
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Or it could also be Dagon...

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Or Cthulhu...

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Seriously though, I stopped believing in Nostradamus 11 years ago. He PROMISED that on July 1999, Mars would eclipse Saturn, multitudes of angels would sound the trumpets of war so loudly everyone would fall deaf, and I wouldn't have to study because Armageddon would be at everyone's doorstep.

I almost screwed up my exams thanks to him. Thanks a lot Mr. N...

Now, the Hopi's Seventh Sign? That HAS to be the oil spill, right???

Right???
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post Jun 14 2010, 02:45 PM

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I'd like to think that when the end of the world is here, it'll be very loud and bright and be over in a few seconds...
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post Jun 14 2010, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(Miri-Sarawak @ Jun 14 2010, 02:53 PM)
You should understand how people talk back on those days, even people back in the old days speak something which they cant discribe is a bit funny or confusing. So they make up things like (eg.. an Airplane. If you are a person behind century, you could call it "BIRD GOD","IRON BIRD","THUNDER BIRD","SILVER BIRD or etc etc". You will focus on flying, so word to represent is bird, discribe colour or sound to add the looks.
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That's the point.

Sure, he COULD be talking about the GOM spill. But he COULD also be talking about eldritch abomintations spawned from H.P. Lovecraft's mind. Given Nostra's choice of words, it could mean practically anything, and still be considered to be an "accurate" prophecy.
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post Jun 14 2010, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Miri-Sarawak @ Jun 14 2010, 04:07 PM)
If its a monster, hell sure know how to say that as in "Oily Beast/monsteah with 8 tentecals and eyes glow like red gem" or other. Term as in old century possibility. Century ago there is no oil drill from sea and he is not a sailor so his knowledge of sea happening is limited to shore and seashells.
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That's assuming he wanted/was capable of being this descriptive.

Then why would he say "it shall climb the walls as an enemy" if was an oil spill? Shouldn't he say something like "it clung to to the sands of the beach, like paint on a canvas". That does not require "knowledge of a sailor" either.
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post Jun 14 2010, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Miri-Sarawak @ Jun 14 2010, 04:48 PM)
What do you expect from a high educated philosopher in old age century. Should that he wanted to discribe somthing "evil" or could harm humans but in term he also want to put it where high educated person in his time like the The Queen and other high rank people to understand him. Must be in those days, education are limited to high rank people and not for country folk, slaves or maid.
Then that brings back to my original point. Why describe "8-tentacled monsters" when "oily, scary and creepy" would do just as well? (And fit almost anything else that is oily and strange).

And I'd think that highly educated people would want a MORE DETAILED explanation. Not LESS.

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post Jun 14 2010, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Miri-Sarawak @ Jun 14 2010, 05:21 PM)
Maybe on those day when he is still alive, he told them that the event will occure in the next century, by that time they all would have grown old and die before the time comes! So they dont care about details, but they rather claim him as Sorcerers/Devil and intrest in burning him due to religous belief at thet time.
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Why should it matter what other people care about? It was Nostradamus HIMSELF who wrote those quatrains, not anyone else! Either he was coerced/bribed to write them vaguely as you suggested, or he did it on purpose. Both of which rendered the validity of his prophecies moot: Why should something "strange, oily and horrible" be definitely an oil spill, and not something else?

 

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