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TSmygarage88
post Jun 11 2010, 12:02 AM, updated 16y ago

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Hi ....would like to know whether worth to buy this unit or not? how to calculate the yield?

195k Apartment
rental rm1200, Lease hold, left 60+ year
Condition....might need to polish a bit...

Please advice
nandayryu
post Jun 11 2010, 12:08 AM

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how old r u ?born on 88 ?
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post Jun 11 2010, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(mygarage88 @ Jun 11 2010, 12:02 AM)
Hi ....would like to know whether worth to buy this unit or not? how to calculate the yield?

195k Apartment
rental rm1200, Lease hold, left 60+ year
Condition....might need to polish a bit...

Please advice
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gross yield calculated as following:
(monthly rental x 12) / property price x 100
in other words:
(1200 x 12) / 195000 x 100 = 7.38%

property guru said can consider if the rate is double the FD rate. in this case which is true.
at the current market, i personally feel anything more than 6.5% is decent, of course the higher the better smile.gif

another theoretically rule is, 10 months rental should be able to cover 12 months installment in any event that there is no tenant.

all the best


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post Jun 11 2010, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(vdfoo @ Jun 11 2010, 12:43 AM)
gross yield calculated as following:
(monthly rental x 12) / property price x 100
in other words:
(1200 x 12) / 195000 x 100 = 7.38%

property guru said can consider if the rate is double the FD rate. in this case which is true.
at the current market, i personally feel anything more than 6.5% is decent, of course the higher the better smile.gif

another theoretically rule is, 10 months rental should be able to cover 12 months installment in any event that there is no tenant.

all the best
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Since TS mentioned about the remaining leasehold tenure, just to highlight here so that people may comment on this also.

Usually some says the bank will not keen to lend for those with very little lease tenure left. If you are buying with 60+ years, should still be OK. but if you decide to keep for say 10-15 years and sell it again, MAYBE it will be harder for the next purchaser to get loan.

but of course, that also depends on what is your game plan. i.e. keep forever, keep for a while, keep for own stay etc...

Also, the yield may seem find, but you need to do your homework to make sure that this RM1200 is a realitic market rental rate and the occupancy rate here is good. Just to be very safe.

Good luck!
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post Jun 11 2010, 12:23 PM

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how much is the maintenance fee?sinking fund?..
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post Jun 11 2010, 03:46 PM

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Location? Potential for capital appreciation?
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post Jun 11 2010, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(cchewhoong @ Jun 11 2010, 03:46 PM)
Location? Potential for capital appreciation?
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should be on the older development since only 60+ years left, the cap appreciation will not be as great compared to newly VP-ed. So it's more for yield game.

Just my wild guess.
TSmygarage88
post Jun 11 2010, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(nandayryu @ Jun 11 2010, 12:08 AM)
how old r u ?born on 88 ?
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haha...secret...


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:14 pm
QUOTE(vdfoo @ Jun 11 2010, 12:43 AM)
gross yield calculated as following:
(monthly rental x 12) / property price x 100
in other words:
(1200 x 12) / 195000 x 100 = 7.38%

property guru said can consider if the rate is double the FD rate. in this case which is true.
at the current market, i personally feel anything more than 6.5% is decent, of course the higher the better smile.gif

another theoretically rule is, 10 months rental should be able to cover 12 months installment in any event that there is no tenant.

all the best
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oh.. ic ic thanks sifu ... so in this case owner have to bear the maintenance fees also right?
so in other words is like

(1200+100)x12/195000 x100 = 8%

fd rate 2.5 ...so more than this...mm...good ya.. but consider about the years left make me step back a bit ... flex.gif


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:17 pm
QUOTE(noed18 @ Jun 11 2010, 09:59 AM)
Since TS mentioned about the remaining leasehold tenure, just to highlight here so that people may comment on this also.

Usually some says the bank will not keen to lend for those with very little lease tenure left. If you are buying with 60+ years, should still be OK. but if you decide to keep for say 10-15 years and sell it again, MAYBE it will be harder for the next purchaser to get loan.

but of course, that also depends on what is your game plan. i.e. keep forever, keep for a while, keep for own stay etc...

Also, the yield may seem find, but you need to do your homework to make sure that this RM1200 is a realitic market rental rate and the occupancy rate here is good. Just to be very safe.

Good luck!
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mm yeah ...the lease hold left 60+ years make me stay back a bit .. and i need to renovate ...mm...doubt doubt leh ...

if i buy this unit .. i also consider about the fees that maintain the unit... cos is old by years...and also .. i plan to keep it forever cos i think the location is good.. near lrt...


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:17 pm
QUOTE(hanif444 @ Jun 11 2010, 12:23 PM)
how much is the maintenance fee?sinking fund?..
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around 100.... hmm.gif


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:18 pm
QUOTE(cchewhoong @ Jun 11 2010, 03:46 PM)
Location? Potential for capital appreciation?
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good location but appreciation ... mm..i doubt cos its old..
any chances that the older the unit, the appreciation goes up? tongue.gif


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:19 pm
QUOTE(noed18 @ Jun 11 2010, 04:28 PM)
should be on the older development since only 60+ years left, the cap appreciation will not be as great compared to newly VP-ed. So it's more for yield game.

Just my wild guess.
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you are right! biggrin.gif


Added on June 13, 2010, 9:12 pm
QUOTE(mygarage88 @ Jun 11 2010, 11:08 PM)
haha...secret...


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:14 pm
oh.. ic ic thanks sifu ... so in this case owner have to bear the maintenance fees also right?
so in other words is like

(1200+100)x12/195000 x100 = 8%

fd rate 2.5 ...so more than this...mm...good ya.. but consider about the years left make me step back a bit ...  flex.gif


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:17 pm
mm yeah ...the lease hold left 60+ years make me stay back a bit .. and i need to renovate ...mm...doubt doubt leh ...

if i buy this unit .. i also consider about the fees that maintain the unit... cos is old by years...and also .. i plan to keep it forever cos i think the location is good.. near lrt...


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:17 pm
around 100.... hmm.gif


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:18 pm
good location but appreciation ... mm..i doubt cos its old..
any chances that the older the unit, the appreciation goes up? tongue.gif


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:19 pm
you are right!  biggrin.gif
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is it still a good buy if left 60+? and this is my first buying... need some advice.. thanks notworthy.gif

This post has been edited by mygarage88: Jun 13 2010, 09:12 PM
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post Jun 15 2010, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(mygarage88 @ Jun 11 2010, 11:08 PM)
haha...secret...


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:14 pm
oh.. ic ic thanks sifu ... so in this case owner have to bear the maintenance fees also right?
so in other words is like

(1200+100)x12/195000 x100 = 8%

fd rate 2.5 ...so more than this...mm...good ya.. but consider about the years left make me step back a bit ...  flex.gif


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:17 pm
mm yeah ...the lease hold left 60+ years make me stay back a bit .. and i need to renovate ...mm...doubt doubt leh ...

if i buy this unit .. i also consider about the fees that maintain the unit... cos is old by years...and also .. i plan to keep it forever cos i think the location is good.. near lrt...


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:17 pm
around 100.... hmm.gif


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:18 pm
good location but appreciation ... mm..i doubt cos its old..
any chances that the older the unit, the appreciation goes up? tongue.gif


Added on June 11, 2010, 11:19 pm
you are right!  biggrin.gif


Added on June 13, 2010, 9:12 pm
is it still a good buy if left 60+? and this is my first buying... need some advice.. thanks  notworthy.gif
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Hi there, any good bank giving good rates currently? please share. I'm also new to properties here.. I found out that alliance giving good rates for first time buyer.. besides, I was advise that we can always negotiate with the banks upon showing another banks offer to us..

I'm not sure which bank should I loan from as I want fast transaction. .. probably will elaborate further in my thread
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post Jun 16 2010, 12:36 PM

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why you think so long? i think there are lot of people wont think twice of they get to know this offer. normally, if this morning there is and ad for sale, tomorrow you call, sure it is no longer available.
TSmygarage88
post Jun 17 2010, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(budak_bagus @ Jun 16 2010, 12:36 PM)
why you think so long? i think there are lot of people wont think twice of they get to know this offer. normally, if this morning there is and ad for sale, tomorrow you call, sure it is no longer available.
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first timer ma ... scare this scare that lo...sumore the env and condition sucks (althought it can rent up to 1.2k) .. afraid no price after bought...

any advice ar?
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post Jun 17 2010, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(mygarage88 @ Jun 17 2010, 09:06 PM)
first timer ma ... scare this scare that lo...sumore the env and condition sucks (althought it can rent up to 1.2k) .. afraid no price after bought...

any advice ar?
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if you think about cap apprecation or planning to sell it back, forget the apartment then pass the contact number of the seller to me.. drool.gif
if you eager for the strong demand and steady rental income and want to hold it until you die, just grab it. dont wait until the seller find another buyer.
TSmygarage88
post Jun 19 2010, 02:06 AM

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mm if i buy it, i might spend another 20k to renovate it ler.. the tiles... my god...if 195+20k still consider a buy ?

 

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