Nah, i was saying what i should have said in a third person view.

Let's say you have a product, some one else wanted to buy it, and a third person comes in, and doesn't even have used your product and started viewing the product negatively, complain, discourage users to buy. Unless you have any proven source, please share and lead us to light.

But please, do not lead us to forest(a hokkien verb of "Cuo Lang Lip Ba") A meaning of a person doesn't know well about this, and leads people to somewhere wrong.

There's no so called 'best mouse' dude.. Razer is famous because they have alot of blings in their products    Just pick the mouse that suits your hand and your taste 

anyone can suggest me good mouse my budget below 300 i think want to buy Cyborg Rat 5 but dont know where to buy

i dont know what u talking about lul >.>

Logitech G700! but not available yet, probably by this month will be available.
others you can consider as well are Razer Death Adder, Roccat Kone, Gigabyte M8000X, Logitech G500, Steel Series Ikari.

personally would advise you to not get RAT5, even their RAT7 model are not good enough, so.. I wouldn't expect the RAT5 to be good.

ambidexterous design mouse are suited for both sides of hand,
while ergonomic are design that suit for only one side of hand, mostly right handed.

I prefer ergonomic mouse. Good for long gaming.

guys.. er. this is not spoon feeding ya as im do some research but the answer i met not satisfy me. hence i looked up for some user experience. my question is, which is the bestest mouse for FPS? my answer lead to ikari optical/laser. is that true? or got a better mouse outside? currently im just using logitech MX518. kinda not powerful enough for me.

Depends on how user perceive.

Since you say 1800dpi is insufficient, but you looking for ikari optical which only 1600dpi??

I am not sure how about ikari optical and ikari laser precision different. (i don have optical version)
Based on my observation and experience on my own ikari laser and Deathadder, there is some different for their precision.
I found it harder to do small distance motion precisely for DA compared to ikari laser.

Laser sensor is working on more different surface also.

There is a teenfest on this weekend at midvalley, steelseries has a booth there and the price is after duo discount.
The price for Ikari laser price should be low enough to fit your budget as well.

yea depends on ur preferences.
give a fat guy a lotus also he cant drive it...cos he probably cant fit into it in the first place

Anyone deciding to bulk this in?

Cyborg RAT Stealth COD version~

hmmm, found a link...



"it's got most of the features of a R.A.T. 7 (including that 5600dpi sensor and higher-quality components) but without the adjustable thumb section." - engadget

Price from amazon(USD):
RAT COD version 81.40
RAT7 79.99
RAT5 46.99
looks like a RAT5 with RAT7 price

IMHO, it's more bling than anything else 

Your goliathus is speed version right??
I got goliathus control version, which i don't like it paired with my Ikari but better for DA.
My understanding is make me think that the size of razer's teflon feet is usually smaller compared to SS mice(i think so compared few product), so that will cause less friction between mice and mousepad, so they can skate better on rougher surface.

Really? Maybe i am trying the friction of DA and Lachesis only.
Their feet size is so small, made me think that Ikari glide and Xai glide are much more smoother.

The Ikari was the first 'true' driverless gaming mouse by the big companies.
But he mentioned it was the first one he actually owned.

Oh another difference between the Kinzu retail and OEM which I can't believe I left out is the rubber coating on the retail version. You don't have it on the OEM.

I'll get Kinzu anyday. Solid performance. The Pyra still has some way to go before it matches the Kinzu when delivering the goods. The Pyra however, is good if you need the macros.

But still think Razer done better for the scroll.

like you said mouse doesnt that is definitely true

however my concern for mouse is just this = good tracking, good quality, good comfort

mouse pad on the other hand is where you are wrong.. QCK can't even beat sphex on resistance.. SX is a dream come true.

so far i've set my target on Steelseries SX

as for mouse. i still haven't decided...

my mx518 is still strong.. but i definitely want a better one like the old DA 1800.. ive heard issues on the new ones..

I using DA as well, no any jitter issue with any of my mouse mat in my collection (4HD, Destructor, Goliathus Control, Qck+ moon)

New and old DA not really only differ with higher DPI, a different sensor of cause with a better tracking power, better accuracy, precise and stable, every thing.
I am not sure whether because of the age of the product, but compared my old DA refresh with my friend's old DA, there are some different in precision wise.

this is true, as i had my frens old da for a month.

hmm..dunno whether here the place to ask tis prob..apparently my mse is havin double click problem..using razer deathadder bought it durin the last PC Fair held...sumtime single click become double click..updated firmware still the same..

so i juz give them the mouse?? i lost sum of da stuff lol lol..

It was 1 of the worst rated mouse, suggest better don't try it.