That thread talk about kave(headphone) not kone(mouse).

Yeah, Kova is driverless. The Kone needs drivre

kone made in china.

and my friend confirmed that it cant work in win7 unless new drivers are downloaded.

driver given on CD is outdated and wont work

oh, but I search in forum, seldom see this case. It got some case happen in early 2009 when there is win 7 beta, but now seldom heard anymore. Plus in roccat thread in lowyat, I not see anyone facing this problem.(Am I missing something in those roccat thread?)

Hey guys, I plan to sell out my Roccat Pyra Wireless Mouse . . . anyone interested?

there's been some problem happens to Rat 7.

one is mouse jitters when being click, even if you hold the mouse in fix placed and clicking will still move the cursor.

second is mouse buttom area are not flat surface like other mouse which completely stays firmly when you press the 4 corner of the mouse downwards. (manufacture problem? i doubt.. but i won't be buying a non flat bottom surface mouse)

third is mouse teflon surface, some users has been reporting that the mouse using some cheap teflon that doesn't offers smooth movement on a mousepad. some users has already remove all Rat 7 original teflon mouse feet and replace with steelseries superglide

I feel like getting a RAT 3 or 5. But then again, I should be getting a wireless mouse first before I set my sights on this.

So far, i'm using 2 mouse at the same time, Gigabyte GM-M8000X for gaming and Roccat Kone for Web browsing.

Still adapting both mouse and slowly writing a review comparison.

I'll skip madcatz mouse for now, and going for Roccat Kone[+]. gonna sell my kone to do upgrade soon.

Note : Roccat[+] is not the normal Roccat Kone... Sames like Gigabyte mouse, GM-M8000 is not same with GM-M8000X

http://www.roccat.org/Products/Gaming-Mice/ROCCAT-Kone-/

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i agreed with you, i have looking many mouse non of one you can call it perfect. for Logitech G9x, after used few hours, i found quite nice. i saw many complaining the middle click hard to click it, for me i prefer manual scroll.

first i saw it this mouse look short not suitable my hand, but after hold it, i feel nicely fix on hand.

driver installation so far so good, no issue found so far. anyway just personal comments

may be you should try CM storm sentinel advance......quite ok for me....i bought it for RM175 at viewnet

u should rephrase.
not that u cant find the perfect mouse.
rather u dont have the budget for the perfect mouse

Guys, I'm planning to get Roccat Kone but i don't know i make the right choice or not. At first, i plan to get a Mamba for its wireless feature, but the price is too expensive. So which one should i take? Kone or Mamba? Can anyone give me some opinion? 

kone is the most comfortable mouse that i've use until now except the pinky part

not sure why, but my hand grip the mouse feels like groping *censored*. LOL just kidding.

it's a very comfortable mouse for my tatse, just lack some important macro function which is availble in new Kone[+]

that's why i'm planning to sell my current kone to get Kone[+].

anyone interested in my kone? rarely used, because using dual mouse, 4 month age, receipt all still have, brought from lingloong. anyone interested can ask me to take picture for reference.

i dont see how RAT9 wont have probs as its the exact same chassis and sensor as RAT7

there's been some problem happens to Rat 7.

one is mouse jitters when being click, even if you hold the mouse in fix placed and clicking will still move the cursor.

second is mouse buttom area are not flat surface like other mouse which completely stays firmly when you press the 4 corner of the mouse downwards. (manufacture problem? i doubt.. but i won't be buying a non flat bottom surface mouse)

third is mouse teflon surface, some users has been reporting that the mouse using some cheap teflon that doesn't offers smooth movement on a mousepad. some users has already remove all Rat 7 original teflon mouse feet and replace with steelseries superglide

Depends actually.

Many people told me Razer sucks and yada yada but all my Razers all ok and has no issues at all..

Mostly depends on luck nowadays.

Plus some company like Ratz which uses the same sensor like Mamba but poor firmware would result in jitters.

Why do you guys keep spelling Kinzu "Khinzu"?

And I doubt there will be a PCFair end of the year since they changed it to 2 per year.

logitech cause when i google the name a lot of good response and all response have one similar word = cheap

extra money buy keyboard better cause SC2 need fast punching skillz

IMHO the MX518 not v good for SC2 leh.. You need something smaller for faster movements.. The MX518 is too big for me..

Getting an Abyssus or Kinzu for the sake of the game.. Zzzz..

It's too small for regular use. Your hand might cramp after using it while. I know mine did.