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PC Audio Edifier Speaker/Headphone Fan Club V5, The Passion of Sound

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post Aug 27 2010, 03:17 PM

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You and me have the same taste, likes skinny girls.... laugh.gif
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post Aug 27 2010, 03:48 PM

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Because THX certified...
I listened to all THX certified speakers, Altec Lansing MX5021, Logitech Z2300 and Razer Mako. All have the same characteristics that you said.....
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post Aug 27 2010, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(rxy @ Aug 27 2010, 04:50 PM)
What's the use of THX certified?
Sigh..
Frankly speaking,I like S530D more than those THX certified things..
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THX

for me is not a good thing, i agree what you said. Edifier speakers and non THX certified sounds much accurate to me...
THX just like enhancement style, i hardly hear what the people in the movie said when using Z2300 THX certified speaker. tongue.gif

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post Aug 28 2010, 12:31 PM

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But no joke, those THX speakers are real loud...but the details all those, MX5021 and Razer Mako is a lot better than Z2300. But the cert is just for fun after all....
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post Aug 28 2010, 01:18 PM

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Z2300 and MX5021, is kind of real 'boom dao luan'. Ceiling vibrate, window vibrate but not real clear details. laugh.gif
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post Aug 28 2010, 03:49 PM

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C3 if you change it to custom made cat5e cables interconnect and speaker cables it will sound quite good. The stock one treble feels harsh, but not as harsh as stock m3300.
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post Aug 29 2010, 03:42 PM

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http://www.edifier.com/eng2005/product/s0030_01.htm

R401 is a good speaker, not necessary to change. Do something to make it sound better. Since it is on RCA line in, do a custom 3.5mm to RCA interconnect with good wires should help a lot.
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post Aug 29 2010, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(xEDynamics @ Aug 29 2010, 08:39 PM)
hmmm...how about pure silver wire? coz got some ppl use it!
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Silver cables in spec is real better, but it cost like when you newly got your whole set pc and your speakers...just a few meters. sweat.gif
Use Cat5e cable can do the job, make sure you find a good LAN cable out there.

QUOTE(beggarmaster2000 @ Aug 29 2010, 11:07 PM)
i think the best DIY upgrade you can give your multimedia speaker for cheap and good is direct solder the cat5 cable into pcb =)
no connectors means no oxidized/quality loss, no damage to pocket =)
don't let the cable cost more than 30% your speaker set and cat5 is best for this class of system
no need gold,silver,cooper connector/wires.... the cables will cost more than your system in ratio
just need a regular 3.5 or rca over the other end to saundkad
simple, good and logical
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Believe me, Cat5e is the best audio cable i've heard among those so many pattern of RM few thousands of audiophile cable out there. laugh.gif
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post Aug 29 2010, 11:41 PM

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Yea i'm lucky that i was brave enough to go in hifi shop listening thier setup and kacau them with my cheap skate prototype cat5e interconnect, impress the salesman and walk out with empty hands.

I found that the hifi shop sound good but too harsh for my ears. I still don't know which one sound accurate, but cat5e just feel confortable to listen with.... rclxms.gif

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post Aug 30 2010, 12:06 AM

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Yes, i just replied them is a pure copper wire...
the setup don't know i need to work till when then can buy laugh.gif
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post Aug 30 2010, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(xEDynamics @ Aug 30 2010, 11:21 AM)
i already have the pure silver wire, as my bro is audio freak, he have extra pure copper and pure silver wire, so i just take some of it  whistling.gif  and i will ask him mod my speaker... brows.gif can i change the 6.5" woofer??? lol!

cat5e? is that pure copper wire?
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QUOTE(xEDynamics @ Aug 30 2010, 12:01 PM)
lol! network cable use for speaker cable? sorry i dont know..
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Good to have pure silver cable. Pure copper is good enough. Changing the woofer is not recommended because the design and specs are tuned for it original, you can try but the outcome may be good and may be bad.

lol for the network cable is common case, believe it....because network cable has the good spec to ensure signal is transfer properly from one to another. It has teflon insulated dielectric which known as the best one and twisted pair can do some noise rejection. It uses pure copper too....and yet with good and low price compare to those audiophile grade cables. Try google what audiophile says about cat5e.

salesman at my town here never know that network cable as a speaker cable sound real good, they said like that where got sound come out lor?
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post Aug 31 2010, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(xEDynamics @ Aug 31 2010, 12:53 AM)
sorry beacause im noob, i dont know network cable can be speaker wire and will have good sound quality, ya! google-ed it already, positive review...So, i just stick with ori woofer. About the amp, can we change the crossover or something? after mod, the sound quality will improve rite? can we make it louder?

example my source output 100dB, the edifier speaker is 85dB that means my edifier cant maximum volume rite? if maximum will damage the speaker?
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Its ok, try it out whether the sound improvement will impress you or not. About crossover part it can be modded but quite advance coz you need to do some calculation before modding to make sure it work as the sound you want. That is a hard stuff even me also no idea how yet...

Loudness for me is depends on the speakers and amplifier power output, for amplifier to get higher power output need to replace the power amp IC with much powerful one and same pinout. Speakers if changed to higher power one, but the amp low on power also cannot go louder. Changing cables to cat5e will make your speaker able to go louder if the stock cable is too sad like RM2 RCA cable.

Changing Op-Amp in the amplifier helps a lot, not a pricey move too. Try use LME49720 op-amp, it sound a lot more details just RM20 for a piece, for certain edifier amp needs 2 pcs.

Capacitors, i not sure how is the improvement, this one can seek beggarmaster the kaki of capacitor laugh.gif

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post Aug 31 2010, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(Edifier @ Aug 31 2010, 05:57 PM)
Dismantle H260 headphone

H260 headphone
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post Sep 1 2010, 01:02 AM

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The components inside edifier consider good already, but the pcb board and workmanship is sad....good finishing outside, bad finishing inside....

and omg how you got so nice of a junkyard speaker?
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post Sep 1 2010, 01:17 AM

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thats far from the place i study....

crap up all the good condition stuff can become real good stuff man....
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post Sep 1 2010, 01:40 AM

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Didn't you see the speaker condition 1st before taking it?
How you gonna decide to power that speaker up?
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post Sep 1 2010, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(beggarmaster2000 @ Sep 1 2010, 01:12 AM)
there is a moutain of it in the warehouse in Vinmart in puchong light industrial area beside tesco. don't know you will get the same price, but i bought alot of crap from them, so i got a super discount! =)

hmmn i wondering if edifier gives any other better op amp than the regular 4558 inside thier product....
i'm going buy a real edifier soon.... for modding then i think i will give it away
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Higher end got NE5532 inside....like C3 thumbup.gif
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post Sep 2 2010, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(beggarmaster2000 @ Sep 2 2010, 01:34 AM)
dun want la... =) those are jellybeans too. philps crt tv has got at least 3 of those
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Don't underestimate it man, it sound quite good already.
Just that 4558 can impress a lot consumer...with overloaded bass and treble.
I just wonder why most expensive karaoke amp still use 4558 instead of 5532.
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post Sep 2 2010, 02:31 AM

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I prefer myself 5532 than 4558 coz i found that fully unleashed 5532 is better than fully unleashed 4558.
For budget multimedia speakers, 4558 helps to bring out the clarity, thats a good thing thumbup.gif

I changed my op amp, and reliaze that my M3300 has the ability to play such detail sound and i found that my woofer no "weng weng" sound when on loud volume which made my thought it woofer design problem.

For what i've heard, my M3300 is much more detailed comparing my hometown hifi shop with a setup of RM80K total. This part i felt weird wondering is it my problem or not rclxub.gif

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post Sep 2 2010, 04:03 AM

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Op amps is the cheaper and efficient way to get low losses in the circuit, just that simple.

Audiophile is audio freak or ppl like to listen to actual sound on thier hi fi system where the recording does or likes to listen to the music. If you said no matter what to do with my multimedia speaker set i will never be audiophile...then you junkyard kaki also goes the same way...never been an audiophile too.

You and me love DIY, as a DIYer, we always find our smart way to get better, means achieve near the level as those pricey stuff in a cheaper way.

My hometown there got Marantz, Accuphase, Dynaudio, Cambridge Audio, Synergistic Research, Bowers & Wilkins, Jeff Rowland, Rotel, Rega, Wharfedale, Audio Research and many more. So i should own such a stuff to qualified as an audiophile?

Expensive does not mean anything....if that is, why not ppl spend money to get MBL some kind of most expensive product like that to qualified he is a true and best audiophiler.

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