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PC Audio Edifier Speaker/Headphone Fan Club V5, The Passion of Sound

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nismo91
post Sep 11 2010, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(beggarmaster2000 @ Sep 11 2010, 10:10 PM)
i'm just being honest with my opinions...
Mr.Edifier keeps trolling us fans here.
eg. no news on the winner of product...bla bla
audio products where can online shopping, hearing is believing!
fan clubs must have ups and downs about products mar, where got up all the way?
maybe i open new thread then =(
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well I understand, but I don't think putting pictures considered teasing. many of us here also post some awesome stuff that can't be bought or discontinued. but no need to be so harsh about that. of course, online shopping is a bad way of buying speakers, but if you're very teased with the products, i think you will go to that extent.
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post Sep 16 2010, 06:39 PM

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Edifier M3300 mod.

It begins with the fault of the wired controller at first. Since getting it outside my is not easy, and I've already paired the satellites with the other better subwoofer, i am now left with M3300 subwoofer without controller nor satellites. On the other hand, I have a decent satellites (from truck stereo i guess) which do not have a great enclosure. I tested it with a/d/s PQ8 amp.

With the help of Cosef pinout, I have tested the M3300 thru the pinout and verified that it's still working. So I am going to:
- Replace satellites with 4" mid and 2" tweeter
- Remove reflex port -> sealed
- Put on/off switch inside the M3300, so it's on all time, and at max volume too.
- Swap RCA output to input, so i just plug any source there.
- Integrate satellite into subwoofer.

So far I have dismantled all the parts, just waiting for sawing assistance. laugh.gif Will post here if the speakers is finished.

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post Sep 19 2010, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Sep 16 2010, 06:39 PM)
Edifier M3300 mod.

It begins with the fault of the wired controller at first. Since getting it outside my is not easy, and I've already paired the satellites with the other better subwoofer, i am now left with M3300 subwoofer without controller nor satellites. On the other hand, I have a decent satellites (from truck stereo i guess) which do not have a great enclosure. I tested it with a/d/s PQ8 amp.

With the help of Cosef pinout, I have tested the M3300 thru the pinout and verified that it's still working. So I am going to:
- Replace satellites with 4" mid and 2" tweeter
- Remove reflex port -> sealed
- Put on/off switch inside the M3300, so it's on all time, and at max volume too.
- Swap RCA output to input, so i just plug any source there.
- Integrate satellite into subwoofer.

So far I have dismantled all the parts, just waiting for sawing assistance.  laugh.gif  Will post here if the speakers is finished.
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finally finished it. to get rid of the leak, I used some blu-tacks as the 'washer' of the speakers, it actually works. Also use blue marker to make the speakers color a bit lively (purple). Removed on/off switch so it's basically on forever.

Sound-wise well it's not disappointing. only complaint would the M3300 amp seems to drive it too bright. Good thing is I successfully replace the RCA out become RCA in, so there is no need to use the serial port anymore. Bad thing is I think I messed up the soldering or cabling when I last paste the blu-tack because shortly after that, when I knocked the system will give some ground loop problem. Next part would be fixing all the solder job and paint the hole black. Currently use blue marker to estimate how it will look after paint.

Now my Edifier M3300 is back to life, become a one-piece system, and it also actually gain alot of weight laugh.gif


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post Sep 20 2010, 03:10 PM

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thanks, nope, the satellites are from left and right channel. although not exactly stereo, it still sound better than laptop speaker. haha but the brightness is a bit disturbing.
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post Sep 20 2010, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(Cosef @ Sep 20 2010, 04:14 PM)
Maybe it can be a center channel with top firing woofer? laugh.gif

PS: edited typo.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(beggarmaster2000 @ Sep 20 2010, 04:23 PM)
haha good job nismo91! =)
i love hack n slash
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QUOTE(power911 @ Sep 20 2010, 06:38 PM)
nice smile.gif
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thanks all. lol, since the speaker are too-bright, i temporarily place it behind my laptop screen (down-firing woofer position). sure the sound is muffled, but for gaming it's funny because the sound appears from inside the screen which reminds me to the EAX in battlefield 2 laugh.gif i will probably try to 'semi' the tweeter and midrange instead of 'parallel' to add impedance (therefore softer sound). not sure it helps or not.
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post Sep 27 2010, 01:04 PM

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i think it's not tweeter which is too bright, it's the amp instead. cause i pair the M3300 satellites with other 'neutral' system and it's really good. instead, when i pair other satellites to M3300 it become extremely bright. laugh.gif i have to use my M3300 down-firing now, otherwise it will sound too bright.
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post Sep 27 2010, 03:28 PM

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i was about to ask you the same question... lol i noticed my 'modded' M3300 getting quite warm at the heatsink part... even on idle also.
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post Oct 5 2010, 11:22 PM

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i saw them (MP300+) in retail shop few days back. one thing: they missed the green colour. laugh.gif
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post Oct 8 2010, 08:36 PM

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or use your 'gaming' mouse buttons to adjust the volume. very convenient.
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post Oct 12 2010, 07:38 PM

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so anyone know how to 'get rid' of this filter? laugh.gif

in my z cinema they like limit anything below 30hz so it doesn't move. while for the edifier, klipsch and altec lansing i can still see they're clearly moving. heck, even my laptop subwoofer moves when i supply 30hz tones.

for z cinema i don't know what freq they tune, but for sure at 40hz it's just normal. much more boomy at 70-80hz range.
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post Oct 13 2010, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(Cosef @ Oct 12 2010, 11:18 PM)
I always thought that Logitech plays nice on low frequency bass but then on the video, the Z5500 woofer can react with such low frequency but theres filter on circuit limits the frequency amplitude or cut off so that it can't react at those frequencies. The volume are quite loud, Edifier one response the frequency as it should, but the Logitech goes something wrong.

Normally people wanted 2.1 speaker woofer to sound like come from anywhere but reality it can be heard at a direction so it needs to be positioned.

You can have fun with the subwoofer by playing a 5hz tone and see how funny it react, but remember that don't play too long it can be quite stress.
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easiest song to test would be the infamous bass i love you. there will be this low note where the subwoofer will slam obviously. now during that time, my z cinema (and z2300 and z5500 in youtube videos) will not slam as it suppose to be. already confirm with my klipsch ifi, altec ada885, edifier r501 and many other speakers w/o filter.

if only i can find sth inside my z cinema that would disable this filter. laugh.gif btw haven't opened it yet, only a pic from internet.
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post Oct 13 2010, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(Cosef @ Oct 13 2010, 01:42 AM)
The bass is too low that unable to listen already, just watching the subwoofer moving. Most of the multimedia speaker does not have crossover, it just let the woofer response to the range it can response.

btw, that circuit quite complex laugh.gif
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well of course not until that low, but at least if the z cinema can output until 27 or 30hz before it's totally unhearable. only when placed in sweet spot the ADA885 can hear at 27hz before starting to get softer and softer. iFi is at 30hz. z cinema is 35hz, everything below is not softer, but blocked instead. that's why after getting used listen to these 2 listening to z cinema got obvious missing tone.

yes quite complex, but it also include the "DAC" since the usb port is at the back of the board.
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post Oct 22 2010, 05:18 PM

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same here, also start with edifier, although used cap-ayam brand for a while before. now using edifier and other 3 respectable brands for PC speakers.
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post Oct 27 2010, 02:33 PM

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i vote for R501 too.
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post Oct 27 2010, 02:54 PM

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lol, the price almost twice of course will be much better
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post Nov 5 2010, 08:57 PM

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i always leave my PC speaker on 24/7. for some model i just 'standby' mode. so i never encounter this.
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post Nov 8 2010, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(beggarmaster2000 @ Nov 8 2010, 10:14 AM)
its the cheap power filter caps....it cannot charge and discharge properly. people who don't know electronics will tell you need to warm up, blast first etc. if you crack up the volume louder and teh sound will break
modern day ic amp doesn't need warm ups unlike tube amps. its start and go.

the higher the value, the longer it needs to charge up. but its not the value need upgrade its the speed. you change it to a more reputable brand with low esr.
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if i want to replace my power filter caps with better brand, should i use bigger capacity (uF) with same V or same uF same V?
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post Nov 8 2010, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(beggarmaster2000 @ Nov 8 2010, 04:24 PM)
pana FC is one of the best cheapest low esr caps easily available in msia, you can choose to upgrade the value (uF) if you know what you are doing. otherwise stick to the stock values. higher voltage is okay (but cost more $). but lower voltage will kill your stuff.

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then again, you guys are all insane here and want an overkill for even your cheap sets.
=) glhf
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I see. i go to his webpage (jimmy) and read the comments section, jimmy himself mentioned basically just replace with the same values of F and V. i will look into this later, probably next mth. i'll keep in mind for panasonic for the brand to look for. thanks.
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post Nov 18 2010, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(Cosef @ Nov 17 2010, 12:06 PM)
Wow this web real pro, they real dismantle everything.  notworthy.gif
I like that e20 speaker design.


Added on November 17, 2010, 7:39 pmA mod today,
I just cut off the tweeter guard on my M3300, the results is very good. The high is a lot more detailed, less distorted and more relaxed, overall is much more focus and won't hurt my ear. This guard actually protect tweeter from damage, also prevent people vandalize it like those unprotected demo speakers in Lowyat Plaza  laugh.gif

So if you at home and no other people with itchy hand, you can cut it off to get better sound quality.

Heres the pic:
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wah great idea, gonna try with my ada885 too!

-edit: finally did it, very messy job but i kinda like how it look after. have not notice much difference with the clarity, will have to listen more.

thanks to Cosef for the inspiration. rclxms.gif



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post Nov 18 2010, 08:14 PM

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comparing mine and yours, is it the resistors?


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