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University ADP compared between Top 3 college (Malaysia), Taylor’s / Sunway / Inti

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TSc@y
post Jun 7 2010, 05:57 PM, updated 16y ago

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We as students would always want the best for our studies to be successful in the future. And one of the common questions school leavers always ask is ‘Which college is the best?’

I’m currently a college student and having gone through it before while deciding my studies, I would like to help others in the same situation too. I’ll look into the American Degree Program between 3 colleges. I know there are many colleges that offer this course as well but I’ve chosen Taylor’s, Sunway and Inti College, Malaysia. It is because these 3 colleges are one of the top well known private colleges in Malaysia.

It is not for me to tell you which one is the best college to go to. You have to decide for yourself which college meets most of your requirement / needs because you wouldn’t want to choose a college that you’ll end up disliking
I’ve tabulated some information of the course in the different colleges below to make it easier to compare.

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I hope that this information is helpful for you in your decision making. Please do share your opinions or additional information with me so that I can be aware of other stuff about it and others can get a chance to know more as well.

This post has been edited by c@y: Jul 17 2010, 02:20 AM
Valentineday
post Jun 7 2010, 08:54 PM

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well....my fren say inti quite good....i think u hav to consider the school u gona transfer to us right?
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post Jun 7 2010, 09:00 PM

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INTI AUP :
4 Years locally? the degree obtained is the same as the one obtained at US?

Sounds interesting
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post Jun 7 2010, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(DeVGF @ Jun 7 2010, 09:00 PM)
INTI AUP :
4 Years locally? the degree obtained is the same as the one obtained at US?

Sounds interesting
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Yes, and u'll be saving money, but at the cost of lack of experience that u can only get there.
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post Jun 7 2010, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(DeVGF @ Jun 7 2010, 09:00 PM)
INTI AUP :
4 Years locally? the degree obtained is the same as the one obtained at US?

Sounds interesting
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i think its only for a certain majors, not all.

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post Jun 7 2010, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(-Nos- @ Jun 7 2010, 10:46 PM)
i think its only for a certain majors, not all.
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As for INTI, its for Business, but one of my friends got for Acturial Science too. That Im not sure.
TSc@y
post Jun 7 2010, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Valentineday @ Jun 7 2010, 08:54 PM)
well....my fren say inti quite good....i think u hav to consider the school u gona transfer to us right?
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Yup. u have to consider which college in US u going to transfer to because it must have the course that u want.
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post Jun 8 2010, 12:48 AM

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I would suggest INTI as i'm currently studying in INTI now =X
Before i came to INTI, i'd carried out some researches via internet and most of the people told me that INTI has the best reputation in AUP amongst Sunway, Taylor and INTI.

Btw, not every majors can be done locally. I can only find few in the booklet of INTI's AUP.

Program : Northwood University 4+0

Offered at INTI College Subang Jaya only.

4+0 Bachelor of Business Administration ( Dual Major )
Marketing and Management

and another one is

Offered at INTI College Subang Jaya only

4+0 Bachelor of Business Administration ( Dual Major )
International Business and management


I don't think you can finish Actuarial Science locally. I'm going to major into Actuarial Science too. I've never heard about it. lol.
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post Jun 8 2010, 03:28 PM

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Well me personally coming from Taylor's and transfered and graduated from Texas A&M I'd say, Taylor's is a fine college.

In reality, where you go doesnt really matter, because eventually all of them will lead you to America, however if you do have a specific university that you would like to attend it's highly suggested you talk to all those college's counselors to find out if you can get into the university that you chose or wish to attend.

Also, major specialization at this early stage doesnt really matter, because you're basically taking general studies courses. However, it's advisable to get a general idea of what you want and not want to do before you transfer so you can get as many credits in Malaysia before you transfer (obviously you dont want to switch from engineering to business after you transfered because you'd probably stay in America an extra semester or so to catch up, though this is usually negotiable with the schools general services division).


Also, in my opinion as much as it is a good idea to complete your education as fast as possible, keep in mind that you're also there to learn a different culture. Don't be that guy who gets stuck in his dorm room 24/7 and never sees sunlight, enjoy yourself in college. American college experience is one of the most enjoyable things I've experienced in my life. The average age of people in my graduating class in Texas A&M was like 22-24, I graduated when I was 21, I felt too young. Then again, you'd want to keep in mind that sometimes Father-mother scholarship can't last forever. smile.gif

Hope this helps.
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post Jun 10 2010, 02:24 PM

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Thanks for the info it's very useful! I'm planning to take this course.. However I'd like to ask? What is the minimum requirement to get into Inti college?
TSc@y
post Jun 10 2010, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(hunnybee21 @ Jun 10 2010, 02:24 PM)
Thanks for the info it's very useful! I'm planning to take this course.. However I'd like to ask? What is the minimum requirement to get into Inti college?
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The minimum requirements for SPM is 5 credits. And the English Language Proficiency requirements for SPM must be A1-A2 if not students must sit for an english placement test before enrolment.
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post Jun 19 2010, 05:48 PM

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hi cay,
Would like to know is it true that taylors is more on assignment based compare to exams? I just finish my foundation and I would like to pursue my degree in the accounting stream but I dont really like exams based rclxub.gif any suggestion you can provide?
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post Jun 19 2010, 06:49 PM

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I feel like taking AUP.

What should I prepare for AUP?
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post Jun 19 2010, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(ceciliacmf @ Jun 19 2010, 05:48 PM)
hi cay,
Would like to know is it true that taylors is more on assignment based compare to exams? I just finish my foundation and I would like to pursue my degree in the accounting stream but I dont really like exams based  rclxub.gif any suggestion you can provide?
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Er, if your specifically asking about ADP/AUP/ADTP(Same thing) then of course it'll be assignment based. smile.gif That is the American way. If you're interested in exam based, it's better for you to stay with the British system.


QUOTE(nenemeia @ Jun 19 2010, 06:49 PM)
I feel like taking AUP.

What should I prepare for AUP?
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Be prepared to study in a different environment, meet new people and HAVE FUN!

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post Jun 19 2010, 10:46 PM

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I study in Inti Nilai , and I've to say that besides being in pretty much an isolated campus in the middle of the desert , everything's pretty good here. Inti has partnership with 285 universities in the US ,Taylor's less , but Taylors kinda sends students to "more prestigious universities"..but if i have to choose between taylor's and inti , i'd still go with Inti

and umm , Taylor's course structure is like 70% coursework and 30% final exam , while inti is 60-40
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post Jun 19 2010, 11:08 PM

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If you're planning to go overseas, you can take classes in all 3 colleges and experience them all. There is no rule saying you have to complete 2 year locally in the same college.
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post Jun 20 2010, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(nenemeia @ Jun 19 2010, 06:49 PM)
I feel like taking AUP.

What should I prepare for AUP?
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I guess there's nothing much to prepare for. You just need your results and go to register at the college smile.gif . Plan the course you want to take first even though the first year will be those compulsory subjects.


Added on June 20, 2010, 1:41 am
QUOTE(mumeichan @ Jun 19 2010, 11:08 PM)
If you're planning to go overseas, you can take classes in all 3 colleges and experience them all. There is no rule saying you have to complete 2 year locally in the same college.
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It is possible to transfer between colleges but it will be such trouble with all the paperwork to transfer and register in the colleges rclxub.gif Actually it doesn't actually matter which college you are in as long as it suits you and after all you will be going overseas after 2 years isn't it.

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post Jun 20 2010, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(c@y @ Jun 20 2010, 01:27 AM)
I guess there's nothing much to prepare for. You just need your results and go to register at the college  smile.gif . Plan the course you want to take first even though the first year will be those compulsory subjects.
I see.

For ADP, do you use SPM or STPM results to apply?

I did research on ADP but it can be confusing at times.

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post Jun 20 2010, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(c@y @ Jun 20 2010, 01:27 AM)
It is possible to transfer between colleges but it will be such trouble with all the paperwork to transfer and register in the colleges rclxub.gif Actually it doesn't actually matter which college you are in as long as it suits you and after all you will be going overseas after 2 years isn't it.
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Transferring between local colleges for ADP, AUP etc programs is a easy process. You just need to fill in the application form and bring over your transcripts. Actually, you're not really transferring any credits over. You're just showing you've fulfilled the pre-requisites to tale higher level subjects. For example, you've done Biology I in Taylor and you want to do Biology II in Sunway. If you're just taking new subjects with no pre-requisites, there isn't really a need to "transfer" actually.

Well, yes if that one college suits you, then I suppose it doesn't matter much. I'm not suggesting anyone should transfer colleges many times, but I'm just raising the option of doing so. You might also want to experience a new college, meet new people etc.

Your image didn't load last night, so well I can see it now and you've done your homework. I'd like to point out somethings though.

First of all, you should consider HELP too. They have their own niche and also their own 4+0 program.

Regarding the intake options. It's not necessarily to do two years here. Transfer programs are not twinning programs. Twinning programs are made exclusively for their twinning partner. Therefore they follow as closely as possible the syllabus of their twinning partner. And when you go overseas, you'll just continue exactly where you left off.

Transfer programs to the US however are not made that way. They offer subjects based on a "generally accepted syllabus". You accumulate credits are you take and pass these subjects. Then you apply independently to any university of your choice. Once you get in, you send over your transcript (and sometimes syllabus) for evaluation. The university overseas will decide which subjects are equivalent to which subjects they offer and award you credits. There is no guarantee that you can transfer all your subjects because some subjects may not meet their standards or have no equivalent.

Having said that, it means you can transfer over anytime you like. Be it after 1 semester, or 2 or 4. There is no minimum. However, most universities overseas, which you are going to transfer TO, have a maximum number of credits that they will accept. Usually it's around 60 (which is roughly equivalent to two years of studies). Also do note that a university here may award you 3 credits for say Calculus I but the university in US may decide it's equal to 4 credits. So even if you have say 60 credits on your Taylor transcript and you transfer it all over, you may be awarded like 66 credits by the university in US. Then you will have to choose a subject or two to leave out. It could also work the other way round, that is they U in US awards you less.

Unless it's a 4+0 program, you shouldn't worry too much about the majors "offered" by these local colleges. Most of them offer more than enough general courses which can be used to fulfill your general requirements. The general requirements are almost the same for any major. You really start majoring only after 50 credits or so. You should first check the real major you wanna do and the exact requirements by the college in US. Then take the corrects subjects here, regardless whether they advertise they offer that major or not. It's not INTI that's awarding you the degree, it's the college in US.

Summer courses are subject to the same 60 or so credit limit. Once you've transferred the maximum amount of credits, you can't transfer anymore regardless what kind of course you do. This however is kinda nice when you want to transfer say after 1 year. Then you've nothing to do during summer and you come back to do some more general low level subjects which you've little interest in instead of wasting money doing it overseas.

Do note that the term "partner universities" are used very loosely by these private colleges. Always ask them specifically what kind of partnership they have. Alot are really useless affiliations. However they do sent their representatives over there to work out credits transfer and syllabus stuff to make it easier for you to transfer. Ask them SPECIFICALLY which universities they have such a kind of partnership with. The only college which has a complete partnership with a college in US is Sunway as far as I know. Sunway UC uses Western Michigan University's syllabus for their ADP. You can transfer all your credits over as long as you pass them (subject to the limit too ofc). I am not sure, but I believe those 4+0 offered my INTI and HELP also guarantee full credit transfer to that particular university awarding the 4+0 degree. Also Sunway doesn't guatantee you acceptance into WMU. You still need to maintain an acceptable grade. It only guarantees you that your credits can be all transfered.

The tuition fess overseas does not depend at all on the college your started off with. It's really up to you to choose. Also 18000 USD for two years sounds really low to me. Sometimes they factor in scholarship and grants into the fee projection. Always do your own calculations based on the fees posted on the website of the university you're transferring TO and not FROM.

You can do your own accelerated pace at any of these colleges. It's just a matter of taking more subjects per semester. 1 year means actually taking 15 credits per semester. So you normally do two semesters in US a years. However, you can of course do more then 15 as long as you can afford it, you can fit it into your time table and you can managed academically. Most people do 2 long and 1 short semester here because we do no observe the spring and summer breaks they have in US. Our timetable is slightly off from the traditional US university timetable so that it fits out holidays and also fits the transfer windows more appropriately.

You can transfer to Australia from any of those universities. Of course it's not going to be as easy as it sound. Just because INTI doesn't advertise it, doesn't mean it can't be done. I know people who have done it. Also don't ever get your hopes to high on programs that talk about leadership la, employment la and whatever. There are such opportunities available anywhere but no one will hold your hand and guide you through it. You've got to be resourceful and proactive to actually make use of those opportunities.


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post Jun 20 2010, 02:04 PM

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Actually if you study in ADP in any institute, there is actually no fixed course structure that states it must be 2+2. Some students transfer for their second year spring intake , some transfer during the fall intake.

The only thing i dislike about this whole system is that the grading system can be rather biased at times.

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