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One more thing, I think it's quite obvious, most of postgrad students here doing their study (PhD and MSc) via research....so when we talk about how hard it is, it reflects mostly on research not coursework. I'm not downgrading coursework, it's not easy in its own way.

when we're talking about how hard it is, it's not just about getting yourself registered for it, but the whole process of learning. As some said, enrollment is not hard. But that is not all to it. It's about doing your study or research to get good meaningful results from your coursework or research, and writing good thesis (whoever say thesis writing is easy, you have no idea about thesis writing).

one more thing, if you talking about masters or phd is easy, and you're suggesting enrolling, getting suam2 kuku results and graduate with so-so achievement, you might as well just go to working sector straightaway. Don't waste five years not making money.

Again, stop saying about PhD or MSc easy, please have more appreciation to knowledge, it's not just about getting titles at the end of your name in business card.

Sorry for ranting, but I couldn't help it.

p/s:
and please, anyone, suggest at least one PhD course that require minimal brain usage, more to tedious and boring work (Conditions: got good books, good lecturers and sufficient fund(s)).

Can I add one more condition? That PhD must taken must have educational accreditation from genuine legal body i.e. government

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Added on July 18, 2010, 6:02 pmmaybe you can ask fifi85 to define "minimal brain usage for PhD".

Me doing master already headache like crazy at times . sometime my body cannot handle it, when I'm back home I just pengsan on my bed w/o dinner or shower and only woke up the next day.

This post has been edited by Sargeant Pepper: Jul 18 2010, 06:02 PM

thanks for the answer

Well, sponsorship or scholarship given is not based on pointers. Mine awarded during convocation. My other colleague have to go interview and the type of scholarship they got based on that. Some of my friends not qualified to zamalah or mosti resorted to KPT mini bajet or PTPTpu loan. Why you need high pointer from your previous study is to set good first impression to panel, it help you to convinced them that you deserve it

For newly open department, it's common for them to be generous to the students, just like unimas few years back...but now, they start being selective and all.

Good luck to all your friends Especially for those 'pioneer' postgrad students.

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Added on July 18, 2010, 6:43 pmLOL. what you do for your final year project?
All the best for your thesis ya

This post has been edited by Sargeant Pepper: Jul 18 2010, 06:50 PM

Sorry highwind85, GRA-ships is what ya? I feel like noob...lol

I see, now I know the term for it. before I got my bursary scholarship and finalised my MSc registration, I was employed by my supervisor, paid RM960 per month (haven't convo yet for BSc that time)...lol, but I only work for 2 weeks because of my bursary contract (long story).

+1

I know I can get 1st class degree, but I'm just too lazy and last-minute-study function is permanently embedded in my brain, so I got 2nd upper class... you get the idea people, if you're honest, CGPA is a clear mirror to you character.

is it engineering or computer science/IT ?

You got to have heart for PhD if you really gonna take the plunge. It need a lot of commitment I say

It is a waste of opportunity if you turn the invitation down, but if you can't commit for it, it is also a waste.
Are you sure you don't have interest in research? What type of PhD they offer you.

Anyway, for your final year project, what kind of work you did. And, from all the courses you learn during, what you like or interested the most?

ya la, like highwind said "don't mention it". I have to let go a lot of things just to continue my study, so yes, I suffered a lil, but in the end it's all worth it, I always know I want to do this...planning to take PhD one day too.

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Added on July 19, 2010, 9:16 amYa ya big taboo, you might get away with it if you do MSc by coursework, but not PhD. You really need to determine your interest before getting PhD.

My supervisor help me securing my scholarship behind my back (I love you Dr.), I'm totally unaware of it until convocation day when the award announce in convo booklet, about 2 months later. My friends said I got it because of my final year project (I work for FYP like crazy!!!), whatever it is, I'm forever thankful.

This post has been edited by Sargeant Pepper: Jul 19 2010, 09:31 AM

we can complain malaysia no good...stupid government workers, government no good, education system no good, road no good, police no good, everything no good....you can keep on complaining because if you wait for change you gonna die first.

But I choose to do something about it. Furthering my study is about empowering my knowledge with hope in the future I will finally contribute something meaningful to the society. But I still complain. LOL

p/s: I'm somewhat geek I admit.

cvk, I think it is best that you try RA post for 6months to 1 year, talk to lecturers to figure out what you might be interested to do. take it slow. The offer did not rush you right?

This post has been edited by Sargeant Pepper: Jul 19 2010, 08:52 PM

+1

It's not just about you simply said. besoul you're not stupid, you're patriotic.

So, back to PhD talk, I just noticed, we haven't have anyone from other aside from IT/computer science, engineering and biology. There must be more out there in this forum...need to promo la this thread...lol

LOL, yeah, I have more time right now than when I'm doing my degree...just happen that in between experiment I got quite some free time..,

YDPA = yang di-pertuan agong

I place Problem Statement in Introduction chapter. Right before I explain Objective of Study.

About citation, that's correct. But I suggest re-confirm with your supervisor as I noticed even when everyone follow APA guideline, they still have their preference, whether the earlier or later version. And pay extra attention on where to italicized like et al

Like, the latest version of APA guideline when I do my FYP states that if 6 or less names, cite everyone like (A, B, C, D, E & F, 2010) but my supervisor insist on (A et al., 2010).

Problem Statement is like an excuse for wasting the research grant to do your research. lol

Well, problem statement is part of proposal or thesis written. Example in my study

"The characterisation of plant chitinase gene activity and function by heterelogous expression and transformation would facilitate the understanding of chitinases roles in plant defense mechanism and development"

so the sentence above basically tell whoever read my proposal, what is the motivation of the study, hence the excuse to waste research grant.

no, it's nothing like conclusion. I don't know how to better explain it.

LOL, small world eh. I'm working on characterising the gene isolated from sago palm.

Nice explanation. When I was first writing my proposal for my final year project, "Problem Statement" confuse me...take some time to fully grasp the idea (i can be slow at times).