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 How many ppl here are actually doing phd?, Many topics here arent PhD stuff..

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Sargeant Pepper
post Jul 14 2010, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(highwind85 @ Jul 14 2010, 12:37 PM)
yeah..i agree with you....i stayed in my supervisor's house FOC for 1 week when I 1st arrived at australia..headache looking for accommodation here...
and the school is trying their best to support students...we have laptops and stationary provided...
Aww~ your supervisor so kind. One week in your supervisor's house, was it awkward?
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post Jul 15 2010, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Jul 15 2010, 11:28 AM)
never hear of that university before. I think you're just trolling in this thread and not a real phd. Just my opinion smile.gif
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You have no idea how many universities in this world, even fiction one. If you actually google it, you'll find the uni http://www.miskatonic.net/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miskatonic_University

It's in Massachusetts. biggrin.gif LOLOLOL...anyway, nice one VMSmith thumbup.gif
that's the reason highwind85 amused by VMSmith post


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QUOTE(VMSmith @ Jul 14 2010, 11:47 PM)
Final year PhD student from Miskatonic University. My research area is in anthropology.

I'm currently conducting studies on prehistoric culture and and social dynamics.
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Which one your supervisor? Professor Seneca Lapham or Professor Joshua N. Marsh?

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post Jul 15 2010, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(highwind85 @ Jul 15 2010, 11:59 AM)
you'll know the truth if you read the 1st two pages of this thread... laugh.gif


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coz that's not the 1st time he does that...
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yeah, still remember that psychohistory stuff...lololol...


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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Jul 15 2010, 12:03 PM)
oh.. then he's just playing the fool. Didnt introduce properly. I thought...

Then which uni he from? UM or USM? UKM?
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He did introduce himself properly, read first page.

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post Jul 15 2010, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Jul 15 2010, 12:07 PM)
oic.. Maybe he's lying? He keep saying different things how do u know he can be trusted hmm.gif
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Why so serious? So what if he's lying, at least he entertained us.
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post Jul 15 2010, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Jul 15 2010, 02:20 PM)
Im not a phd but is there any field that i can do that doesnt require me to use my brain?
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wrong place to ask i guess. Anything related to tertiary level education is mentally tiring.
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post Jul 15 2010, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(ComposMentis @ Jul 15 2010, 02:35 PM)
impossible , there ain't no such thing as a free lunch
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like that "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch" rclxms.gif
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post Jul 15 2010, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Jul 15 2010, 02:46 PM)
No what i mean is like... Example:

But in psycho whatever field u only need collect data and then do some simple analysis on the data like count how many ppl and then present which doesnt really require u to use brain. ANy phd course like this?
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such a big misconception, there's no such thing as simple analysis for PhD study. Any analysis that done is thorough and backed by various references. Even undergraduate student for that kind of fields sort of turbo charge their brain, imagine the PhD students.

Statistical analysis even simple one kill my brain cells. (I'm a math bimbo XD)

One more thing, I find my friends doing counselling or human resource study having harder time than I am. Even worse with those IT students


What you mention is more like commercial company survey

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post Jul 16 2010, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Jul 16 2010, 09:43 AM)
ya i know hard because u need to waste 5 yrs to get that phd instead of making money out there thats why many people opt to get money early.

I understand not easy but just interested the ones that dont require to use brain. Like just hard working but no need think so much
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PhD is not waste of time....anything you do to acquire knowledge is not waste of time. Postgrad might make money a lil later, but the delay is for a good cause. biggrin.gif

I don't think you get it, PhD requires both hard work and brain, MSc too. Ever wonder why they need good results for your previous studies as admission requirement?

Postgrad art students also cracking their heads, so does other field. Obviously, one might be easier than the other one, but all of it are not easy.

A faculty might have thousands of undergraduates, hundreds of MSc students, but less than 10 PhD students. That pretty much tells you how hard PhD is.

There's only one way to get PhD w/o using brain is by cheating....pay someone else to do all the work in your name, maybe two, use influence to get one.
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post Jul 16 2010, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(spikyz @ Jul 16 2010, 02:55 PM)
agreee, is not something like u study in ur ipta/ipts, pay d money and u in. They are tight requirement before u get in. If u dont use ur brain, i think u cant even pass your foundation, so pls stop saying u dont want to use brain but want to get phd, its downgrading and insulting.
Somehow i feel, fify85 is actually trolling in here..
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I feel like that also, but really, it is downgrading and insulting to think that way.
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post Jul 16 2010, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Jul 16 2010, 03:04 PM)
No im not trolling. Just want to understand more because I dont c it so difficult to enter masters course and stuff. My coursemates who graduated just look for any supervisor and they are more than willing to accept since they are desperate for students. There are not so many phd compare to undergrads because students are not interested in doing post grad. If they want do you think its difficult for them to enter? They dont even need to sit for entrance exam or anything like entering bachelor course. Just look for a supervisor and u get to enter post grad course.
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=.= i feel insulted. Honestly, I feel like that. Too lazy to explain, anyone willing?
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post Jul 16 2010, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Jul 16 2010, 03:15 PM)
No i didnt mean to insult anyone. SOrry if thats how you feel. I will stop on this topic notworthy.gif
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I know you're not insulting anyone, but the idea that postgrad study is easy, is insulting. that's why i feel insulted.
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post Jul 16 2010, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jul 16 2010, 03:33 PM)
Some fields are easy, they're just expensive and boring and tedious, but difficult? there's nothing "difficult" in this world if you have good lecturers and good books, and you can do your own research. The only problem is the cost and the time.
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Yeah, some field is easy, but the idea of not using brain for postgrad study? it's ri'donkey'lous biggrin.gif

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post Jul 16 2010, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Jul 16 2010, 04:58 PM)
No what i mean was post grad study is definitely difficult thats why im asking those that doesnt require brain so much. Yes just like the one woodenus said. The ones that only need tedious work.
Thats the kind of course in asking about smile.gif
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Well, if that's what you want, then it really depends on what you like and interested, and what you're capable of doing. As for me, I like biology and I have no talent for accountancy, economics, arts or math. so obviously, biotechnology is an 'easy' field for me compared to the other fields mentioned.

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post Jul 17 2010, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(spikyz @ Jul 17 2010, 01:30 AM)
hehe this is interesting, could i ask both of u, who suggest there is an easy phd, fify85 and another lowyat.net member, could u prove it is easy?

such as, could u take that "easy" course and graduate with a phd? pls. im dying to see how easy u guys can obtain it.  =)

btw, no entrance requirement? maybe for ur field, but i obtained first class in my engineering degree to get into my phd. and for me, my phd is quite hard. Maybe yours dont need to do even degree to get a phd? maybe perhaps, coz u make it sounds so easy.
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ditto, I've been thinking of '"easy" course and graduate with a phd' since fify85 post the question, for days, I couldn't think of any. One course might be easier to one from another, but it's not that easy.

If you think PhD as a mean to get more money, then you think wrongly. It's a 'quest' for knowledge. I believe anyone who's doing PhD have deep appreciation of knowledge. If not, why would they "waste" five years?

I'm only a MSc student, but you project it to see what PhD like. For MSc admission, I obtained second upper class in my biotech degree (3.30 cgpa). pointers 3 above is not that easy to get. I also need to prepare a research proposal, and writing proposal again, is not easy. Recommendations from someone like supervisors during degree or mentor also required. There are no exams for entrance, but the requirements is high.


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QUOTE(spikyz @ Jul 17 2010, 01:30 AM)
and 1 more thing, there is alot of ppl like this, which we can found at mamak,

"wey stupid ronaldo, dunno how to play football ka? i sleep also can kick better lo"

d type of talk only, but when we give u d ball, u cant do anything with it. thats my opinion. we have 2 many NATO here, ppl which claim something else is easy, but he himself cannot do it.
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I couldn't say it any better thumbup.gif

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post Jul 17 2010, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jul 17 2010, 10:40 AM)
I can prove it if you're willing to pay for it smile.gif
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mind telling us what field/course you gonna take if someone willing to sponsor for it.
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post Jul 17 2010, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(highwind85 @ Jul 17 2010, 11:23 AM)
don't tell me it's some degree mill from somewhere in the internet... sweat.gif
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I forgot about degree mill until you point it out...lol...with money anything can happen these days.

anyway,

random trivia (maybe you guys know already) : Brian May (Queen guitarist) takes 30 years to complete his PhD study.
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jul 17 2010, 12:37 PM)
I'll reveal it in the blog I'm going to start if he decides to sponsor LOL smile.gif
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dude, that's a lame answer sweat.gif . I don't buy it

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post Jul 17 2010, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(highwind85 @ Jul 17 2010, 12:40 PM)
Money isn't going to drop from the sky to fund your studies...most of us fought hard for our scholarship/sponsorship one way or the other...
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Yeah, I agree with you, not only fought hard to get, but also work hard to convince the panel we still deserved it semester after semester.
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post Jul 17 2010, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(dax8 @ Jul 17 2010, 07:27 PM)
Okay but that's beside the point. His point was that it's not easy. He challenged anyone to prove (or disprove) his position that a PhD was not easy. I accepted it on the condition that he cover the expenses. This has nothing to do with money at all.
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I think the whole idea is to suggest at least one PhD course that require minimal brain usage, more to tedious and boring work (Conditions: got good books, good lecturers and sufficient fund(s)). Any suggestion(s)? Anyone?
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post Jul 18 2010, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ Jul 18 2010, 05:07 PM)
Ya so u got first class honour, scond class upper and stuff like that. But you dont need such high pointers to enter masters course. I have coursemates who get less than 3 pointer and they are doing their masters. After they grad they can go for phd if they are willing. So the point is you dont need high pointers to further your studies.

Doing a phd doesnt mean u have to enter prestigious uni. Even local university phd degree is consider a phd degree. So its not as difficult to enter a postgrad course like u guys said.
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Yeah, but they most unlikely got all those Zamalah (Bursary) or MOSTI sponsorship (in unimas this range from rm1.5k to 1.3 per month)....most likely got smaller sponsorship, KPT mini bajet or study loan. If you take coursework master, low pointer might not be an issue. For MSc by research in Unimas, if your pointer below 3, you have to work as RA for a year, then only you qualify to apply for MSc.

anyway, wondering how your friends fund their studies? self-fund, loan or sponsorship? They're doing coursework or research? What field they're taking?

QUOTE(highwind85 @ Jul 18 2010, 05:09 PM)
You may not need high pointers to do a masters or a phd later...but you need those pointers to convince supervisors to take you, you need those pointers to compete for a scholarship...
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Yeap, but I guess they're talking about MSc by coursework. If by research, f4tE friends surely lucky huh?!


BUT!!!!!

no one suggest one PhD course that require minimal brain usage, more to tedious and boring work (Conditions: got good books, good lecturers and sufficient fund(s)).

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