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post Jun 17 2010, 11:27 AM

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My screenshot.
Other modification need to wait till I figure out how to install back bounce,playback angry bird(3rd time) & finish my assignment.

Is there any widget to show CPU temp alone?Got tired with QueenBecon.

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post Jun 17 2010, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(BRY7 @ Jun 17 2010, 11:35 AM)
that is such an innovative homescreen!
how you made it?
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Spend 1/2 hours in front of my computer laugh.gif
Before I reflash my phone,I did a lot customization but trouble is I didn't save the commands.

QUOTE(louis2103 @ Jun 17 2010, 12:14 PM)
those making the nice homescreen need a software to do it or can do itself by the default N900 application?
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All you need is X-Terminal & some png files.
But if you're beginner maybe you need OpenSSH,WinSCP & ready made scrips from maemo talk forum.

QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jun 17 2010, 12:25 PM)
all those homescreen are normal images converted to suit N900 screen size and u overwrite the default images. Format must be in .png

Thats the uniqueness of having linux like nokia n900. U do not need special software to make it work.


Added on June 17, 2010, 12:25 pm

requires openSSH to copy paste image to replace the default images.
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Actually if you really good with X-Terminal you won't be needing WinSCP.

QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jun 17 2010, 12:29 PM)
OpenSSH is not a software to make themes but a software to access your phone root files so u can edit it.
*BE WARN* if u replace or deleted the wrong files u will end up bricking your phone
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Can restore everything within few minutes by reflashing.
N900 is practically unbrickable software wise.
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QUOTE(BRY7 @ Jun 17 2010, 12:38 PM)
after reflashing, will everything be ok?
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Good as new.But you need to redownload all the applications.

QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jun 17 2010, 12:42 PM)
I agree but X-terminal very mafan if the text is very long 1 wrong text must retype again. With WinSCP copy paste settle haha
Like u said can copy and paste command through text too.
To intermediate and advance user yes its unbrickable to beginner its OMFG it spoil my phone
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If typed wrongly just press arrow up & edit.Easy.
But WinSCP is way easier.

QUOTE(jloi @ Jun 17 2010, 12:48 PM)
wow how u replace d bg for clock and music player?
mind share where to change d image location in openssh? biggrin.gif
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Go to usr/share/icons/hicolor/164x164/hildon
Like aspire said,you guys can edit lots of stuff in your theme folder.
Attached File  ICONS.zip ( 221.01k ) Number of downloads: 7


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QUOTE(BRY7 @ Jun 17 2010, 01:09 PM)
what do you mean by data?
what type of data?
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Things that will be saved:-
Communications & Calender
Bookmarks
Setting
Application list

After you finished reflash you can restore the phone to the way it was before flashing.However you need to download all the application again.Not a big problem since you only have to click "ok" once & app manager will download all the apps.
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post Jun 17 2010, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Cannibal @ Jun 17 2010, 01:13 PM)
just finished angry bird with all 3 stars tongue.gif
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I cannot get pass the level 3.5 doh.gif
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post Jun 17 2010, 01:37 PM

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Will the maemo guys beg swype to develop on screen keyboard for N900 too? tongue.gif


Added on June 17, 2010, 1:40 pm
QUOTE(BRY7 @ Jun 17 2010, 01:37 PM)
so you back up to either pc suite or ovi suite?
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Can backup using phone backup also.
Go to Menu -> Backup -> New Backup

You can copy the entire backup folder to your pc also if you're afraid of losing it.
Go to Menu ->File Manager -> backups
Copy the entire folder into your pc/laptop

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QUOTE(BRY7 @ Jun 17 2010, 05:32 PM)
yea, thats true.
i asked the nokia salesperson that day.
only skype.
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At least the salesperson know it.
Some salesperson will just answer "I don't know"
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QUOTE(meLi @ Jun 17 2010, 05:41 PM)
Ansel-A Is A Powerful Photo Editor


Link here http://ansel-a.blogspot.com/

TQ
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Where did you find all these apps?

Is there any other phone in market having QT support?I want to test out QT based programs.

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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Jun 17 2010, 05:49 PM)
if NOKIA dun abandon Maemo and concentrate on Meego... that is..

or else gonna live with it.
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Even the old symbian still receiving some support from Nokia.
Surely Maemo won't be abandon that fast.
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QUOTE(locolyric @ Jun 17 2010, 05:55 PM)
when meego available for n900..
who still want stay with maemo?
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MeeGo won't be officially available for N900.But since the source code is available for developer there will some version of MeeGo for N900.The question how refined will it be.
Some say current MeeGo build have trouble with N900 power management & few other issues.If someone managed to iron out all these issues then most of the users will migrate for MeeGo.

And the next problem with Maemo -> MeeGo is the file system that these OS using.
Maemo using deb while MeeGo (according to some users) using rpm.Some suggest that this will make some apps incompatible with each other OS even though it's possible to convert deb -> rpm

Most probably N9/MeeGo will be officially launch in Nokia World this September.Till then there is still good chance that Nokia will change their mind about MeeGo & N900 and give this device that they are treating like stepchild another chance to prove it's potential as smartphone.

QUOTE(Seaedge @ Jun 17 2010, 05:57 PM)
true also..
then probably we have to wait for ages for them to come up with the next update.
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I don't mind waiting for some time if Nokia can assure users that they making comprehensive update on their next update.


Added on June 17, 2010, 6:14 pmP/S:For the rpm & deb supporters(if there are any here) please don't start flame war here.I'm tired of this war.

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 17 2010, 07:15 PM)
True. It's a powerful Internet Tablet even if you don't use it as a phone.

Besides, currently I prefer Maemo, the name, the UI, the Desktop, etc. MeeGo looks ver Android-ish to me. Of course, haven't seen the final product, so can't really comment.

Another plus point is that N900 is very "open" and very packed with hardware, e.g. Infra RED, etc. I'm not sure there will be any device have so many types of features anytime soon. From previous Nokia practices, once in a blue moon, they will have one device which is very complete or packs with many hardwares.
Not sure if MeeGo device will be so "open" and "free".

Finally, MeeGo device seems will be in capacitive touch screen as the public favors over it. It's nice to have multi-touch, mainly for gaming, not much use for apps, pinch-and-zoom ain't important compared to accuracy and ability to use finger-nails and/or stylus. And with capacitive, no more use for MyPaint or Sketch app.  cry.gif
N900 will be a legend by then.
Hm... AFAIK, the 1st MeeGo device from Nokia will be Maemo6/Harmattan rebranded as MeeGo, they called it MeeGo 1st Instance. It'll still use deb packaging system from the last time I read long ago because actually Maemo6/Harmattan is already in development phase when MeeGo plan is announced, so it'll be a waste to drop it off, so instead, they re-brand it to MeeGo. That's what I read in maemo-talk.org, not sure if there's any changes. It's mentioned on "qgil", if you know who he is.
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The rpm in MeeGo rumor started when a guy working for Nokia said this.
I guess we will only know the full detail once the MeeGo with GUI released.

QUOTE(meLi @ Jun 17 2010, 07:17 PM)
Nice 3D Graphics and Sound

user posted image

TQ
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Seems like a weird game.
Is there any demo version for this game?
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QUOTE(spizzerd @ Jun 17 2010, 11:43 PM)
Can you teach me how to add the OC widget into the Quick Launch menu?
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I'm bit lazy to type tongue.gif
All the files & necessary files are inside the zip file.
If you plan to use 500MHz-850MHz OC setting then it's mostly copy paste job.


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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jun 18 2010, 12:12 AM)
mates, i think i bricked my n900, i was trying to flash it, and i did the second part, which means step 9 onwards in the 1st page guide of updating firmware, after restarting the phone, all it displays is square fonts. Im screwed
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No sweat.

Start from 1st step back.
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jun 18 2010, 12:21 AM)
thats what im doing, currently at my last step
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Even after repeated reflash your phone still the same?
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jun 18 2010, 12:34 AM)
Very much agreed on the Maemo vs Meego comment. I'm really afraid that Meego will become a dumbed down "smartphone" OS on top of linux compared to the raw desktop power of Maemo.

And about the N900 being the next after death legend (after discontinued only popular), I have little doubt, keeping in mind just how powerful and quirky it is. Feel like buying a few more just for spare and parts lol.
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http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/sear...=utf-8&oe=utf-8

This page is about MeeGo's UI.Already been deleted actually.
From what I read it's more likely that Nokia is turning MeeGo into more like Android.

QUOTE(spizzerd @ Jun 18 2010, 01:17 AM)
It worked now. Thanks.
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Enjoy your high speed now
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iPhone 4 carry the major problem of iPhone 3GS - Great hardware but with OS limitation.

If only iPhone game creators make games for maemo too...
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 18 2010, 11:22 AM)
iPhone 3GS great hardware? Maybe the Cortex A8 processor. Others are failure... mono speakers! Argh! Low resolution screen and very bad in daylight. Weak Wifi, weak bluetooth.... 3MP camera... Lack of many other things if you compare.
Based on it's hardware, it should just cost around RM1K~RM1.3K. iPod Touch 3G 32GB is selling around RM1.1K and it's already quite expensive. It's the brand that cost more.

I think the creators might port or make for Android rather than Maemo...
BUT Zen Bound, Angry Birds... were in iPhone...

But N900 for gaming will not be so great as it lacks proper multi-touch (touch there're videos in YouTube proving multi-touch support capabilities, but I think the coding is harder, unless they come up with a proper library, etc.)
There's also Piano App demoed in N97 supporting Multi-Touch in YouTube, not sure how true. Perhaps someone can verify.
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Actually I meant good hardware tongue.gif
The hardware is ok for most of end users.
I felt that iPhone is way overpriced too.

There are some good games that don't requires multi-touch but the games creator don't port it to maemo.
If maemo community have plenty of paying customers then maybe more apps maker will write apps for maemo.
The way they see maemo now is it's not profitable to write apps for maemo since most of users can get the alternative apps for free.

I did post a few days ago a video showing a resistive touchscreen based phone using multi-touch.It's genuine video but the app writer haven't release the source code yet.

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Best way is by flashing manually.
All the details are in 1st page.
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QUOTE(Patent @ Jun 18 2010, 04:21 PM)
why when i try to flash it keep showing USB device not found though i waited long enough
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Turn off your phone
Press u while inserting the usb cable simultaneously.
Go to Control Panel -> Device & Printer

See whether your phone is in update mode.If yes then you can proceed.
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QUOTE(lhongwuh @ Jun 18 2010, 05:45 PM)
it will be soft case type and flexible..sort of gel like..
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Can you show some pictures?

Still haven't get a proper case.
Using RM8 cheap pouch as cover when the phone inside my pocket & use it naked when typing/gaming/calling laugh.gif

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