Nokia already killed it long ago, it's surviving thanks to the community; Look at the apps provided by Nokia? Look at N900 OVI Store... gosh... look at the features on N900 (and what the community has provided, and after so long, Nokia only ABLE to incorporate ONE... I telll you... ONE stupid Facebook plugin... and of all the functions, they only able to provide... the USSD)... Look at what the community has provided for the Maemo OS and also the apps repo.

Will N900/Maemo survive long enough? It really depends on the community now...
Now... the main problem... if the important/contributers were to leave the scene... upgrade to next Nokia device or change to another platform, it'll be great loss... it'll affect N900/Maemo...

Sadly, currently N900 has good specs and very complete hardwares, it's let down by the "incomplete" and "unstable" OS. There's still a lot to be done on th Maemo5, still missing many phone features. Altough many have been provided by the community, there's still many to be done... Another problem is, for community version, there may be more than 1 version available (e.g. im plugins, etc), and those projects can be abandon anytime, etc.

Flash 10.1 was ported to iPad, shocking, and there's no single news for N900/Maemo, despite it's the first to get Full Flash.

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Added on July 5, 2010, 9:40 amANOTHER BIG QUESTION:

Qik is no longer available in OVI Store for N900.
No information provided WHY is it not available anymore and whether it will be available again in future.
Is this HOW Nokia do things? They can just remove some apps and instead of adding more apps?



This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 5 2010, 09:40 AM

Another disappointing news? This is by cptichford himself!!!

"It is over 6 months old..I think it has moved into legacy support.. this means bug fixes only.. I don't think we'll see new features coming in (like Ovi Maps or Flash 10)"

http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/t5/Mae...900/td-p/691732

To clear this misunderstanding.

AP = Original

Zitron = Authorised

So, whether you get from AP set or Authorised set, both are ORIGINAL.

What is AP set? AP set means it is OVERSEA set.
Authorised Set means it's OFFICIAL SET to be sold by in Malaysia by OFFICIAL DISTRIBUTOR, in this case, Zitron.

So, why cannot update? AP set for N900 are usually US Set. Are you saying US people cannot update themselves? LoL
They have to send back to Malaysia AP dealer and ask the shop to update for them? WOW~~

The use of Ori is confusing. It's all ORIGINAL, unless it is some fake China NokLa...

Just like you buy Sony PSP, PS3, etc. You can buy from Sony Malaysia = Authorised/Official Malaysian Set.
Or you can buy from Game Shop, which the unit may be from different countries.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 6 2010, 04:40 PM

Image Editor? What about Ansel-A?
I haven't tried it yet, but have installed it tough, lol

Yea, need Garmin or PapaGo, somehow I find PapaGo better with it's Junction View features, really beat the crap out of Garmin. Many times, I was using Garmin the lane split to 3 or 2, Garmin never really mention to stick to which lane and ended up go wrong way. But with PapaGo, it's an ease.

One reason why I get the iPod Touch 3G, aside from the apps/games, another reason was also for GPS. Sold my previous N81 and was thinking to get a GPS device, after thinking, instead of spending 800~1000 for a PapaGo or Garmin device, why not spend on iPod Touch 3G, I get to enjoy the apps (specifically the Dyno apps)/games and also GPS.

Your question is vague. Everyone use differently and it really depends on how you use.
My colleague's N900 can last 4 days.
Mine cannot last whole day because I'm ONLINE on GSM mode most of the time in the office and on WiFi at home. 3 IM plugins running.

One more thing is, this is not old technology battery, you can charge anytime you want. In fact, you shouldn't let your battery out of power. You should keep it charge happy.

Finally, you buy this device to enjoy or to save battery? For me, I want to enjoy and use it, not to be bound by keep trying to preserve the battery.
It's like buying a sports/racing car, but keep trying to save fuel and drive slowly.
This N900 is like very fast and powerful sports car, how you use it is up to you.

BIG difference.

BUT, from your description, Maemo might not be able to fullfill your requirements/needs.
It has very basic and simple phone function, you can say it's even worst than a cheap Nokia phone.

But as a smartphone or tablet phone, it's arguably one of the best. Just that the OS still needs many improvements and refinements, and also lack of "proper" apps and games from reputable or the common companies.
You'll find mostly the apps, widgets, plugins, etc from Community of developers.

Not really, the profiles o N900 is... uh... gosh...

There're something that N900 have specially that other don't have, like Conversations and the ability to merge all IM into contacts and all chat/etc is done in Conversations. That's superb, no need to install and run stupid IM software/app anymore.

But in terms of phone functionality, it still got a lot missing.

No contacts grouping, no contacts ringtone assignment, no sms archiving or storing in folder (e.g. Birthday SMS, Jokes SMS, etc), and many more. But despite all this, I'm willing to let it all go for the N900. This is the only phone that makes me able to let go my previous phone functions and especially over 5000 sms (that was not able to transfer to this phone).



This is where capacitive touch is a crap. I use stylus on this game and it's great, I can't imagine the annoyances by force to use fingers which covers the screen and unable to guide the planes accurately.

There're some games simply don't work well with capacitive.

Yea, the community version for grouping and ringtone; Waiting for that to improve and come up with stable version.

I think the phone function is adequate for everyone, I mean, most important is to be able to do the basic phones function. But we paid so much for this thing, it's not about adequate plus, Nokia has been providing Symbian phones with great phone functions,they should understand what is important and to provide for any of their phones. It's disappointing to see and also surprising when I first found out. It feels like this is developed by someone, Nokia just market it.
Anyway, more is always better, so adequate is not satisfying but just can do the job. Still waiting for improvements from Nokia or the Community.

The Numpty Physics game is actually very old already hehe, I played it way before N900 was officially launched in Malaysia, back then there isn't much game on N900.
I think it was also available for iOS but didn't bother to install these kind of game as it works best with stylus.

Btw, for Numpty Physics game, those who played, do you know any special tricks? It's a really amazing concept.

Hermes? Did you use Facebook Chat plugins? If you use Facebook Chat plugins, it will grab all your Facebook Friends into your Contact Book together with their profile picture.

Groups is important especially when you want to forward SMS to group of people. Now, I have to select one by one, it's madness. LoL

For ringtone assignment, it's useful as you can know who call you without looking at the screen.

Of course, it's not VERY important, but it is a NICE to have feature. Even someone who doesn't need it, it will still be NICE to have. Simply put, having it is a plus point.

SMS Archiving or storing in folders is good if you like to keep those wishes SMS (e.g. birthday, new year, etc), jokes, etc.

Anyway, as I said, it depends on individual, but no matter one needs it or not, it's still nice to have more; more is always better. Unlike Mr. Jobs, when it can't be provided, some lame excuses is given, and the budak kipas will buy it and even support it.

Another in the waiting list is Flash 10.1... there's a port to iPad already...
N900, the first "smartphone" with built-in FULL FLASH support... now is behind all others? This is not right Nokia... and there're no ven a single spit from Nokia whether they have any plans to provide it, it's like they're trying to drag the time, just like MeeGo, and suddenly announce a big "NO".
They should've just provide the Flash like a plugin, we can just update it easily from Adobe...

Fulcrum trick, I guess that's the only useful trick. Got one stage, where the star is inside some sort of spiral, that's annoying. After getting the star inside, don't know how to bring it inside the "spiral", I used the stuffing trick to push the star further up and into the "spiral". That was a mess as I stuff a lot of things, lol.
Did anyone manage to clear that stage using other tricks?

LoL, maybe on the Capactive which isn't meant for stylus or fingernails.
Resistive are meant for stylus, it not something new, even those old Pocket PC provides stylus.

If really worry, then apply a screen protector.

Plus, watch this and see what the guy use to draw and how long he do it (and NO, you cannot do this with capacitive screen, sorry):



Yup, iPod Touch doesn't have built-in GPS, but I already have a bluetooth GPS. Besides, built-in GPS are usually weaker and slower. The only shocking is, the stupid iOS have lock the Bluetooth not allowing connection to other devices. Have to JB and install some 3rd party which enable the Bluetooth for connection to other device, and guess what? The app need $$. For Apple, it's all about $$.
Oh, another problem is the speakers, MONO!!! During driving, it's a pain to listen to the instructions, even with the radio/cd player turned off... and iPhone 4 is also MONO; What's wrong with Apple, Jeez!

There's an app called RetroConv which can read symbian sms format, but I haven't tried it. The Symbian notes also wasn't compatible with Maemo Notes. I have to use vba scripts to convert it to plain text. Would be nice if there is an app which can read Symbian notes and have similar UI.
Actually, Nokia should provide this feature in OVI suite to transfer the SMS and Notes, but still no such feature till today.

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Added on July 7, 2010, 2:38 pmIt's Desktop, which is different with the "common" homescreen
I don't want to see portrait mode on the Desktop as it would mean losing the ability of flexible Desktop customization.
UNLESS they allow us to choose, as an option.

To be able to provide portrait mode, there will need to have boxes (like Symbian) and all the widgets, icons, shortcuts, need to place inside each box. all the widgets have to be standard size to fit in the box.
We'll loose a lot of things that is available now...


This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 7 2010, 02:38 PM

I think the problem is when you rotate your phone and the transition when switching from Landscape to Portrait since it's will be a two different thing.

Then every time you customize the landscape, you need to do the same for Portrait as it's 2 different thing. In short, it's not the same as auto changing orientation, but we're having 2 different desktop, 1 for landscape 1 for portrait.
If we utilize 4 Desktop, it'll be 8 Desktop, LoL

Besides, currently, those widgets are FREE and flexible, no need to be bind to boxes, but if it needs to be fit for portrait mode, some widgets might need to be redesigned else it will waste a lot of space or possibly a little too wide for Portrait mode.

Anyway, it's would be nice to have, but I don't think I will use it. I can already imagine how bad it will be and how many things we will loose out.
So, if there is such support, I do hope it can be turned off.

Haha, that's what I said, have to maintain 2 different set, so when update or change, have to update both. Some users who don't understand will complain why like this.

I think another problem is, the smoothness when it need to switch between portrait and landscape. Having said that, if someone turn on 4 Landscape and 4 Portrait, it will mean loading 8 desktop in memory?

Another problem, widgets... currently, we can only place 1 instance of the widget on 1 of the 4 desktop. So, if there is portrait mode desktop, and we want to be able to the same widget on both landscape and portrait desktop, thus it has to be a separate hildon-home process? So imagine the load...

Hah, that might work, but not sure how well it will work as you will need to manually modify the files, unless such feature is also created. Besides, there're few more considerations need to be considered.

Anyway, if someone really make this, let's see how it goes. Afterall, MORE is better

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Added on July 8, 2010, 9:16 amIt's like a computer, how you use it, what apps you install, etc. will affect the overall performance.

Generally, if you're a normal user and don't simply install stuffs, you hardly will have any of these problem.
Even Windows, if you do a fresh install and don't simply install stuffs and surf net "properly" and "safely", you will hardly have any problems at all. It's all about the USERS, how they use, what they install, etc. You can also partially blame those ppl who created those virus, etc. But when a product is famous or have many users, you can't expect it to be hacker-free.


This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 8 2010, 09:16 AM

You can use VNC or Remote Desktop.

Actually many smartphones can do that.

For YM, with Maemo OS, you can have your IM accounts built-in your contacts.
What does it mean? NO NEED TO INSTALL IM APPS, NO NEED TO OPEN SEPARATE IM APPS.
Everything is in your phonebook/contacts.

For videos streaming on N900, you can try check out Knots2.
You can stream HD or even FULL HD videos to your N900 via your PC.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 9 2010, 09:54 AM

My colleague's N900 can last up to 4 days if only use normally like a normal smartphone.

Did you get AP Set? You might have FAKE battery which have this kind of wierd behaviour. The battery level won't show correctly, and it may charge crazy fast but actually it's not full.

Next if it's confirm original, it could be:
1. There's processing running which causing your battery drain like crazy. Try restart your phone, and install the widget which shows your the processor usage %, make sure it's not constant 100%.
2. Did you use fake charger or fake car charger? It might damaged your battery.
And if you use car charger, make sure you don't plug-in during starting and turning off your car, I read that the voltage fluctuation will damage your battery too.

Next, how did you use the battery?
Make sure you always charge it and don't let it empty/finish. This is not those older type battery, Li-Ion and Li-Poly battery you can charge anytime you want, just make sure you don't let it empty/finish. Doing so, you might risk damaging your battery or shorten the lifespan.
To make sure it's working in tip-top condition, use and charge it frequently.

Btw, heat can also damage or shorten the lifespan of the battery. Never leave your phone/battery inside your car when park under the hot sun.



This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 9 2010, 11:05 AM

You can try claim for a new battery first. Did your dealer mentioned that it is not ORI battery?
The price the dealer sell to you, did he/she mentioned is original package. If original package means everything should be original.
Even fake battery, it shouldn't perform that badly, it could be a problem unit. Even fake battery should provide you around roughly 60%~70% of the original performance, as I know some fake battery have only around 800mah.

Anyway, some are using Sun Global replacement battery and claims it has better performance than original. It's about 1/3 price of original battery price (per Nokia Centre price). You can get cheaper Ori battery from outside, but you need to verify that it is really original.

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Added on July 9, 2010, 11:23 amYou can VNC from your PC to N900. Not sure about other methods.


This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 9 2010, 11:23 AM

Depend on how it's use, like me, it won't even last one day, I need to charge in the evening already. I turn on 2G/2.5G (GSM) mode whole day, with 3 IM plugins online, and surfing and something watch some videos on youtube or fb. By evening it's will be out of juice. I have bought the Nokia DC-11 portable charger.

I'm sure we all can, if we use it like a normal phone or smartphone, only use for calls/sms mostly, never really surf net or connect to internet. My colleague did not subscribe any data plan, so he don't use internet unless there is wifi available.

There only 32GB version, no other version and only black, no other colour.

It's 32GB, but 2GB is reserved for apps, while 768MB for swap memory, etc. which left you with 27GB.

You can still use microSD up to 32GB (if you can find one, else get a 16GB, there're also different class which determine the speed)

Import Contacts from other phone?
If Nokia phone, use PC Suite, if other phone, see if you can transfer/sync the contact to your Microsoft Outlook.
The final way is copy the contacts to SIM card and then copy from SIM to your N900 contact.


This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 9 2010, 03:07 PM

AP Set is Ori set.
Zitron set is AUTHORISED Ori set.

So, BOTH ARE ORIGINAL.
BOTH ARE THE SAME.

The difference is the warranty and after-sales service provided by the Distributor.

There're many AP company, small and big. I can't comment. If you want to get AP, you can get from those more reliable AP company.

If you're worried, then just go for Authorised set.

After warranty, AP or Authorised set are the same already. Both also need to pay for repair.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 9 2010, 05:32 PM