not necessary 45 degree leh. haha. use a tuner

4) Custom Tuning
Tune ur guitar with ur own tune.. example: G C D G D E
for me.. i tune my guitar to G C D G C D (currently creating a song with this tune)
try ur own tune ^^ (guitar & bass) ---> http://www.tunemybass.com/

5) Alternate Tuning
http://guitar.about.com/library/bltuningcgcgce.htm

A whole bunch of tuning gathered (guess the tune for G C D G D E nor G C D G C D still not in the list yet lol) -- > http://www.guitarzone.com/forum/topic/43641-tunings/

Bump! nice info

Usually if one guitar is in standard tuning, and the other guitar is in E flat, a quick fix is to put a capo on the 1st fret of the E flat tuned guitar to get into standard tuning. So now both guitars are in standard or base tuning.

This is only one remedy though. Another simple way, get two guitars! One in standard and one in E flat.

Baru rock star when you bring more than one guitars when jamming. Plus, it's an excuse to get a new guitar!

nice thread and nice replies, thx to blacktrix and junkyard for the links

Artists used different kind of tunings to make their own style.

If you want to see a different and weird tuning, listen to Goo Goo Dolls. J.Rzeznik signature hit 'IRIS' , the acoustic guitar in the song has a very odd tuning: the bass E string is tuned down to B, and the remaining 5 strings tuned to D. It's like a 12-string guitar ringing LOL. But yeah it was fun and easier to play (do that in standard tuning and you'll die).

Same with 'Black Balloon' and 'Name'. FUn Fun Fun

lol. might get 1 guitar for each tune.. ahahha mayb hundreds of guitar?? lmao! but.. i totally agree with u on this..

Yeps. really a great info to open our eyes @.@ credits to them

This.. i have to agree!

This is what you tell your significant other on why you need more than one guitar. Say that this particular guitar can only be tuned that way, and so on and so on!

Back to topic, I prefer standard or 'base' tuning for my guitar. Haven't learned to appreciate other tunings like Drop D or E flat.

But if you want to try drop D, play some songs from this band called "Billy Talent". The guitarist, Ian D'sa, is a genius when it comes to variations playing in drop D tuning. I highly recommend playing their songs like "Try Honesty", "surrender", "where is the line" and "the navy song" to name a few.

I'm a beginner so correct me for any mistake..
normally the entire band will use the same tuning..
for example, my fav band, billy talent - the guitarist & bassist are using
drop D and if i'm not mistaken all of their song is using drop D.
I feel as if drop D is like a trademark for their music..

Hah! Finally found someone who also like Billy Talent!

To answer your question, it's better for the entire band to tune in the same key so they can play easier together as a band. You can mix up the two guitars one with standard and the other with drop D, but some chords can't be played on both guitars to have the exact tone and sustain. To illustrate:

Tuning: Standard

Emaj (bar chords)
e |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
B |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
G |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
D |---2-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
A |---2-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
E |---0-----------------------------------------------------------------------|

Tuning: Drop D

Emaj (bar chords)
e |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
B |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
G |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
D |---2-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
A |---2-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
D |---2-----------------------------------------------------------------------|

So, if you want to play D#/E flat bar chord in drop D:

Tuning: Drop D

D#/E flat (bar chords)
e |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
B |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
G |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
D |---1-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
A |---1-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
D |---1-----------------------------------------------------------------------|

The guitar in the standard tuning can't simply shift to the first fret like this:

Tuning: Standard

D#/E flat (bar chords) *Wrong way*
e |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
B |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
G |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
D |---1-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
A |---1-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
E |---0-----------------------------------------------------------------------|

As simply stated, the above is wrong way to play D#/E flat bar chord in standard tuning!

So the only way for the standard tuning guitar to play the same chords as per the guitar in drop D tuning is to go down one string, which is:

Tuning: Standard

D#/E flat (bar chords)
e |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
B |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
G |------8-------------------------------------------------------------------|
D |------8-------------------------------------------------------------------|
A |------6-------------------------------------------------------------------|
E |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Although the D#/E flat bar chord above is correct for standard tuning, you'll lose the heaviness of the tone if you had played it in drop D tuning.

The above is also the same for Bass tuning with a drop D guitar. Usually bass does not need to drop D since it can be substitute or replaced with a lower string, but again, you'll lose the heavy tone.

In the case of Billy Talent, the Bassist uses drop D tuning to get the heavy tones to match Ian D'sa's (Billy Talent's guitarist) guitar riffs.

Hope that helps!

my fav jamm from billy talent is Saint Veronika.. and also tears into wine..
those two song really make me coz ian way's of giving a unique yet exciting riff
is really hard to learn.. especially the timing.. It took me nearly three hours to play perfectly
Saint Veronika.. dunno how many time i repeated the song.. but for sure with help from guitar pro

wanna jam sonic youth's TEEN AGE RIOT?
Lee Ranaldo's tuning is GGDDGG
Thurston Moore's tuning is GABDEG

can't find the tune in guitar pro..
not my level yet, I only know drop D, 1/2 step, & drop C..

Fuh, melampau the guitar tunings by those two guitarist! Will check the song out to hear how the guitar plays.

tat song is wicked,its just a simple strummy song but the tuning is wank

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Added on August 19, 2010, 12:22 pmoh ya,saint veronika ftw

This post has been edited by Lamb Of Dog: Aug 19 2010, 12:22 PM

You should hear more billy talent songs. The guitar riffs are fun to cover.

This post has been edited by junky_man: Aug 19 2010, 02:11 PM

Agreed.. haha.. but if u're more to pentatonic scale
IMHO oasis song wud just be perfect 2 practise with..

This post has been edited by Maloperro: Aug 19 2010, 02:17 PM

hell yeah,im a big billy talent fan,i always play the Devil on my shoulder lick when i pick up the guitar. OASIS,im Madferit:D

Please keep the discussion to tunings please. thanks.

when I saw ur pic which is Jimi Hendrix.. I remember voodoo child.. haha..
do u know orianti? a guitar soloist, anak murid steve vai i think.. haha.. the Great Kat ( know rite who she is) wanna be..
she play voodoo child when she came to Malaysia this year I suppose.. I saw on youtube..
ow ya, Malmsteem idol is Jimi Hendrix kinda weird at first if compare to his music as Malmsteem are real deal in Arpeggios..
Haha.. as if from 2 different world