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 Anyone has experience with Allianz, opinion plz?, Switch from Prudential to Allianz

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chew_ronnie
post Jun 1 2010, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(billie bonka @ Jun 1 2010, 12:25 PM)
Hi, I was offered by an Allianz Insurance agent for an insurance package with same amount of money I'm paying for my Prudential insurance. I'm considering cancel the Prudential and switch to Allianz. Anyone has any opinion on this? The offers seems too good to be true...

Total yearly commitment: <RM 5K

..........................................Prudential..................................... Allianz
Death:.....................................RM 80K.........................................RM 500K
Critical Illness:..........................RM 80K........................................ RM 200K (inclusive)
TPD:.........................................RM 80K........................................RM 200K (inclusive)
PA: .........................................  0  ..............................................RM 250K
Medical (R&B):..........................RM 400..........................................RM 250
Medical (AL): ............................RM 75K.........................................RM 85K
Medical (LTL):............................RM 225K ......................................RM 825K

Can someone advice me what are the items I have to take note?
Thanks ya...

p/s: reason why I look for other insurance agent? My Prudential Insurance agent too sucks!
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Hi there,

I'm from Allianz. There is something not right here with the Prudential's R&B coz for 75k AL and 225k LTL (Prudential's old med card) the R&B is RM200.

You may give me your age and smoking status and gender to see if the Allianz Plan quoted by your Allianz agent is feasible or not.

My questions before you change:
Have you claim anything before with your Pru policy?
Are there any health changes since you buy your Pru policy ie. highblood pressure, diabetes or other illnesses?
If the answer are NO's then you may consider, however you still need to keep you Pru policy for another 4 months before the Allianz policy is fully inforced.

Thanks
chew_ronnie
post Jun 1 2010, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(billie bonka @ Jun 1 2010, 02:21 PM)
Hi, thanks for pointing out the error  rclxms.gif . The prudential R&B is AL 75K &  LTL 375K (this is the best I can recall).
I'm 29 female non-smoker.  No health issue. Nvr claim for this matter.

Do you advice me to consider other aspect, i.e the investment value? Although I'm a bit concern I might lost from Prudential side  sad.gif (my policy started in 2006) but I do not know how to calculate for my lost. I think if I start new policy I need another 4 yrs to accumulate wealth from Allianz and Allianz return is lesser than Prudential, is it true?

Thanks for your advice!  biggrin.gif
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Hi,

Prudential from what i know:
AL 75k
LTL 225k
R&B RM200

If you stop your Pru you will definitely loose out, but for your Pru to break even, you might need to pay on for another 20 yrs.

So let's put it this way, does your Pru coverage now sufficient for you if you ever fall sick or accident? IMHO its too little because 80K is peanuts nowadays. Furthermore investment returns in Investment Linked Policies are just a supplement to your coverage (so dun emphasize on that). Get yourself covered 1st only you consider investments or whatever savings you want.

So if this can help you make up your mind, let me ask u this.
If one day you fall sick, which policy can help you go thru the difficult stage?
And if fall sick or accidents happen, which will give you more cash and which will be more hassle free? Considering the Panel hospitals are larger for Allianz compared to Pru.

So the decision is up to you but just remember not to terminate you PRU straighaway after you sign up Allianz. Wait another 4 months for the Allianz coverage to take charge ok. This will secure you. (I dunno whether your agent tells u this - pls be aware ok)

PM me for more advice as I can teach you everything you need to know when buying Investment Linked Products. Thanks.
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post Jun 3 2010, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(gavin_lim @ Jun 3 2010, 10:14 AM)
For investment-linked product, the premium you paid is being used to buy units. The fees and charges of your protection are deducted via cancellation of units from your investment funds. The insurance charge of an investment-linked product is calculated according to a rising rate and the more protection you take, the more units will be deducted monthly. If your selected fund don't perform, soon you will run out of units in your investment funds and you will need to top up your monthly premium, buying more units to cover the fees and charges. Don't expect low premium high protection will last forever.

For your Prudential policy, is it traditional or investment-linked? I need to know more details of the policy so that I can give you a better suggestion.
Regards,
Gavin Lim from ING
cheahyang_0@hotmail.com

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Gavin,

You should be asking whether its a PRULink or other name because a layman or non-insurance related person does not know how to differentiate whether it's ILP or traditional.

So Billie Bonka, if you see this, do check whehter your policy is PRULink or PRU whatever it is ok. THanks
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post Jun 15 2010, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(KiliKulu @ Jun 15 2010, 01:48 PM)
Hi there, im also switching from Prudential to Allianz powerlink for reasons below:

1. Same amount of money paid but higher coverage (It's not too good to be true, it is true)
2. You pay nothing when admitted to hospital and exit hospital, just show the medical card (eg. Prudential requires you to pay 10% upfront urself, not claimable)
3. My gf is admitted to hospital last month all of sudden without any medical history for operation. She is using Allianz powerlink. It is the first time experience and luckily the insurance agent helpful enough to guide us all the way from admitting to hospital and doing all the claims for us. We don't have to pay any upfront 10% money, just provide the medical card. Overall cost include specialist checkup is almost 20k.
4. Branded is always more expensive. Besides, they are in the market longer than Allianz hence they must have much higher claims of insurance, When claims are too high, the cost will bear by new consumers, premium is getting higher. Allianz premium will get higher n higher too i believe in the near future.

Just imagine how long it takes to save 20k and gone in 2 days, so pay RM100-200 monthly to insured yourself is a must. A lot of ppl like me didnt see a value in insurance at first but those who get the right insurance will appreciate. All my 2 cents
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Good review!

You have a good agent out there and Allianz's card is really hassle free when it comes to claims, just be reminded that Do NOT stay at a room and board which is higher than eligible. Thats it.
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post Jun 15 2010, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Crazyallen @ Jun 15 2010, 03:06 PM)
nice explanation by ronnie.  icon_idea.gif
nowadays i see alot of allianz agent keep proposed new policy to customer and call them surrender the old policy.. and for me this is not ethical manner..  shakehead.gif
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Thanks Crazyallen.

Let's put it this way, Allianz as an insurance company do not encourage it's agents to twist policies. This however happens may be due to many factors i.e.
1. If the client have insufficient money to buy another 1 but need that coverage, how? Whether surrender or not, it's totally up to the clients, not the agents.
2. Many policyholder buys insurance without knowing what the heck they buy, what if buying something that is overlapping and paying too much?
3. Some agents are taught to do whatever to get the sale thru (depending on their leaders), does this only happen to Allianz, are you sure that other insurance companies doesn't do this. I've seen some other agents twisting my policies from other companies!

This is a biz world and regardless of which company you are representing, dirty tricks exists!

Just my 2 cents and hope you wont pin point!
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post Jun 20 2010, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(calcom21 @ Jun 20 2010, 06:51 AM)
Guys, I have a medical card with GE. Planning to get a top-up on top of my GE. My range is RM100-RM150. What can i get from these range? The coverage, etc?
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Top up with GE or with other insurance companies?
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post Jun 20 2010, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(calcom21 @ Jun 20 2010, 07:33 PM)
PReferable other insurance agent.
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Meaning other insurance agents for GE or other insurance companies. Friend ur statement not clear la.
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post Jun 22 2010, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(calcom21 @ Jun 22 2010, 03:59 PM)
Other insurance co
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So i presume you are not looking for medical card anymore. So your budget will cater for Critical Illness, Life and Personal Accident.

You can get some quotes from forummers cum agent here and you can compare.

So the 1st thing is the following:

Age
Sex
Smoking status

Then u compare and c which suits you. Thanks
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QUOTE(winterain @ Jun 21 2011, 09:54 AM)
i also thinking to change my existing agent in Allianz. Any successful case on change agent?
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No issues with changing agent. Just write to Allianz stating ur reason to change.

U want my assistance on this?

 

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