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Philosophy Does life have a purpose?, A philosophical question

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nice.rider
post Jun 1 2010, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jun 1 2010, 07:48 AM)
does the universe need a purpose to exist.

you mean the sun have an mind of its own to ponder the meaning of life?
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Why not. There is one branch of philosophy stating that if we could understand the origin of the universe one day, the purpose would be able to be explained then. Origin <----- Purpose

It was a metaphor. If Sun has a mind, it may asks the purpose of continuous explosion of helium and hydrogen. But when we look at the holistic view, it has it's purpose to the universe.
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post Jun 1 2010, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(nice.rider @ Jun 1 2010, 07:19 PM)
Why not. There is one branch of philosophy stating that if we could understand the origin of the universe one day, the purpose would be able to be explained then. Origin <----- Purpose

It was a metaphor. If Sun has a mind, it may asks the purpose of continuous explosion of helium and hydrogen. But when we look at the holistic view, it has it's purpose to the universe.
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how do you can you be sure the purpose is the origin?

i am not sure that universe have a purpose, here is an interesting discussion between several scientist and philosopher on the question.


http://www.templeton.org/purpose/pdfs/bq_universe.pdf

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post Jun 2 2010, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(Beastboy @ May 31 2010, 04:23 PM)
I scanned the PhD section for this question but didn't see it fielded anywhere. Since most philosophers are concerned about our place in the universe, Greek ancients included, I thought I'd pose it here.

Do you think life is a random occurrence, we came to the top of the food chain by some fluke accident and there is no such thing as a purpose?

Do you think we are two-legged lab rats and there's something out there that's observing how we play it out?

Do you think because of our intellectual limitations, we are incapable of knowing our purpose in life?

I know its hard not to drag in beliefs in a question like this (which shows how little things have changed since Descartes days) but do try and be as belief-neutral and logical as you can. Looking forward to your views.
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Beastboy,

It is VERY SIMPLE.

The PURPOSE of LIFE is in LIVING and EXPERIENCING IT. Nothing more and nothing less....

This applies to human being, rats, ants and whatever.....

The JOURNEY is the REWARD....

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post Jun 2 2010, 08:39 AM

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Just stay away from the sun, universe stuffs.

The question refer to "LIFE"
Does the Sun considered as a lifeforms in the first place?
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jun 2 2010, 07:39 AM)
Beastboy,

It is VERY SIMPLE.

The PURPOSE of LIFE is in LIVING and EXPERIENCING IT.  Nothing more and nothing less....

This applies to human being, rats, ants and whatever.....

The JOURNEY is the REWARD....

Dreamer
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I like this, very straight forward. thumbup.gif

Agree with dreamer with my foots up too thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jun 2 2010, 03:35 PM

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your purpose is whatever it is you want it to be.
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post Jun 2 2010, 04:24 PM

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I thought your purpose was for Nerzhul. brows.gif

I never thought life had a purpose. If there is I would have pursue that purpose above my "own set" purpose.


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post Jun 2 2010, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(mylife4nerzhul @ Jun 2 2010, 03:35 PM)
your purpose is whatever it is you want it to be.
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yea this matter is pretty subjective
if you want it to have purpose , go for it
if you don't think it has purpose , so be it smile.gif
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QUOTE(miraclejustin @ Jun 1 2010, 11:23 AM)
The goal is to save humanity. The destiny await you....
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Humanity doesn't want to be saved.

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the purpose of a life is to die
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post Jun 3 2010, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jun 2 2010, 07:39 AM)
Beastboy,

It is VERY SIMPLE.

The PURPOSE of LIFE is in LIVING and EXPERIENCING IT.  Nothing more and nothing less....

This applies to human being, rats, ants and whatever.....

The JOURNEY is the REWARD....

Dreamer
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People do know that, just can't accept the facts because human is one of a kind with intelligence beyond animals. So it is hard to swallow, usually people who have no achievement would ask themselves this question and people who are too old to do anything else would say you either enjoy your life or you don't.

The purpose is in your hands, you make the purpose, so it is do something or nothing and there is no right or wrong because we did not choose to be born, bearing a name not by choice but once an adult with independent mind, every decision make us a different person. What do you want to leave behind when you die should be the question and that cause for a purpose.
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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jun 2 2010, 07:54 PM)
the purpose of a life is to die
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this is the answer. im dead serious

all of us will die. here in this world what are doing determine our position in afterlife

doesnt mean that if you are happy here so that means you will be happy later

afterlife is another big question and issue. really2 big..... flex.gif

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Jun 3 2010, 01:57 AM)
People do know that, just can't accept the facts because human is one of a kind with intelligence beyond animals. So it is hard to swallow, usually people who have no achievement would ask themselves this question and people who are too old to do anything else would say you either enjoy your life or you don't.

The purpose is in your hands, you make the purpose, so it is do something or nothing and there is no right or wrong because we did not choose to be born, bearing a name not by choice but once an adult with independent mind, every decision make us a different person. What do you want to leave behind when you die should be the question and that cause for a purpose.
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3dassets,

<<People do know that>>

People KNOW but they CANNOT DO. And, that is WHOLE PREMISES for Zen.

Whether a person is YOUNG or OLD, this MOMENT is all that you have. Past is gone. Future is yet to come. You either MAKE THE BEST of YOU HAVE aka THIS MOMENT or you don't. And, your life will be defined by YOUR DECISION of those millions of MOMENT.

QUOTE(azerroes @ Jun 3 2010, 03:51 AM)
this is the answer. im dead serious

all of us will die. here in this world what are doing determine our position in afterlife

doesnt mean that if you are happy here so that means you will be happy later

afterlife is another big question and issue. really2 big..... flex.gif
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azerroes,

<<afterlife is another big question and issue. really2 big..... flex.gif>>

IMHO, it is IRRELEVANT. If in this LIFE, with however limited control that a person has versus NONE in AFTERLIFE, a person DID NOTHING. Then, why should AFTERLIFE matters??

I live in this world. I WILL DO what I can to hopefully leave it better when I am gone. As for afterlife, who knows and who cares??? I had done ALL I CAN and I have NO REGRET.

Dean: You know the Greeks didn't write obituaries. They only asked one question after a man died: Did he have passion?.
Serendipity 2001

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P.S.: I do not like the fact that people use too many plastic forks at work. So, I bought 36 stainless steel forks and give away at work. Will it make ANY DIFFERENCE?? I do not know. But, I had done my part.
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post Jun 3 2010, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jun 2 2010, 07:54 PM)
the purpose of a life is to die
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doh.gif why dont u go die now and fulfill your purpose? idiot...

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life has no purpose. it's only reason of existance is to make everyone suffer until the day they die......
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post Jun 3 2010, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(nwk @ Jun 3 2010, 09:30 AM)
life has no purpose. it's only reason of existance is to make everyone suffer until the day they die......
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couldn't agree more...hahaha

no eat suffer....no drink suffer....not enough nutrition suffer.....not enough money suffer.......work hard suffer....no air suffer.....not enuf sleep suffer......then when you have kids suffer...(extra money + extra problem + extra worry + above = suffer)
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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jun 2 2010, 07:54 PM)
the purpose of a life is to die
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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Jun 3 2010, 09:08 AM)
doh.gif why dont u go die now and fulfill your purpose? idiot...
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Since we can debate about the purpose of life and many has diff answers
I bet there is no specific purpose of this life we talking about
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post Jun 3 2010, 09:47 AM

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life is unfair. some are born ridiculously rich and some is born ridiculously poor. what kind of purpose is this?
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post Jun 3 2010, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(nwk @ Jun 3 2010, 09:47 AM)
life is unfair. some are born ridiculously rich and some is born ridiculously poor. what kind of purpose is this?
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nwk,

No, it is FAIR.

Whether a person is HAPPY or NOT has VERY LITTLE to do with whether they are RICH or POOR. As long as a person is NOT starving to death, their ATTITUDE to life determines whether they are HAPPY. It is THEIR CHOICE.

Path to happiness is CONTENTMENT.

I have cousins from very rich uncle and cousins from poor starving uncles. I see NO DIFFERENCE as to whether they are happy or not from their family background. In fact, those from poor background are MORE LIKELY to be happy and content as long as they are NOT STARVING.

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jun 3 2010, 10:26 AM)
nwk,

No, it is FAIR.

Whether a person is HAPPY or NOT has VERY LITTLE to do with whether they are RICH or POOR.  As long as a person is NOT starving to death, their ATTITUDE to life determines whether they are HAPPY.  It is THEIR CHOICE.

Path to happiness is CONTENTMENT.

I have cousins from very rich uncle and cousins from poor starving uncles.  I see NO DIFFERENCE as to whether they are happy or not from their family background.  In fact, those from poor background are MORE LIKELY to be happy and content as long as they are NOT STARVING.

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happiness was not even part of the equation. he's asking about fairness and wealth

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