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polarzbearz
post Oct 14 2020, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Oct 14 2020, 03:50 PM)
You're trying to do Foreign Transfer, you should just do 'Transfer Money' (first option under 'Pay and Transfer'.

For selecting the 'To' account, under 'your own accounts' you should see your FastSaver account (once it's linked). There you can transfer 1SGD.
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Hahaha yeah found out during the CIMB-SG call today - I got the steps mixed up rclxub.gif doh.gif

I was doing:
1) Open CIMB SG FastSavers
2) Transfer minimum $ from CIMB MY account to CIMB SG account, via Foreign Transfer
3) Transfer balance $ (to meet $1k) from any other sources
4) CIMB Clicks MY - link account and wait for approval (for linkage)
5) Wait for account activation approval

Instead, the correct step should've been:
1) Open CIMB SG FastSavers
2) CIMB Clicks MY - link account and wait for approval (for linkage)
3) Transfer minimum $1 from CIMB MY account to CIMB SG account, via "Own Account Transfer"
3) Transfer balance $ (to meet $1k) from any other sources
4) Wait for account activation approval

This post has been edited by polarzbearz: Oct 14 2020, 07:21 PM
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post Oct 14 2020, 09:06 PM

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After reading into the link Hansel shared, I become interested with baby bonds. But I don't see any way to buy baby bonds via IBKR. All the results shown under the bond scanner only has large denomination size of 2k USD to 350/500k USD.

The blogger does not seem to provide any hints on buying baby bonds. Anyone here knows how to do that? (Anything to share from you, Hansel?)

EDIT: I found one, it's actually called exchange traded debt and is traded like stocks with par value 25 USD per share and you can buy from a minimum of 1 share. Commission is 1.5 USD from IBKR's TWS platform.

https://stockmarketmba.com/analyze.php?s=PRS

For this example, the ticker symbol is PRS.

This post has been edited by TOS: Oct 14 2020, 09:30 PM
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post Oct 14 2020, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 14 2020, 07:13 PM)
Tested by me. True as what blogger said. Only about 1% dividend with holding tax.
Go there and open. Not worth it. Stick with our IB. FSM better than DBS V and SCB for a foreigner.
FSM for Singapore reits.
IB for overseas stocks.

Reason
SCB
- SCB blindly hold the tax even though they don't need to hold it.
Which means less money for you Vs IB which is very smart.
- Their exchange rate sucks Vs IB's spot rate. No broker can best IB spot rate.
- SCB need to call in every now and then for corporate action.

DBS Vickers
- quarterly platform fees for overseas stock
- corporate action fees (dividend fees) for overseas stock
- higher exchange rate Vs IB but lower Vs SCB
- cannot do rights or preferential offering if you a foreigner without sg addess.
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What is the 1% WHT for ? Didn't you ask ?

SCB has no platform fees. IB has platform fees if you do not have assets worth USD100K inside IB, unless you go with their front-end proxies which you called white-(somethings).
Nobody asked you to exchange inside SCB, you can always exchange outside SCB and TT into SCB for a good amt...
If needed to call in and still able to do your corporate action, it's better than NOT being able to do your corporate action at all for IB,.. there has been problems at IB. You can't subscribe to IPOs at IB, right ??

DBSV's platform fees can be waived if you have sufficient transactions, and the platform fee is only SGD 2, come on,....
No worries abt the dividend fees if your amt is substantial enough.
Again, nobody asked you to change your currency inside DBSV,... you don't know enough abt changing in other ways inside the DBS Group. IB's spot rate is still not the closest to the interbank rate. DBS Group's is !!

At the end of the day,... I will still stick to a bank established inside SG. That's my preference,... I wouldn't mind paying a bit more for this peace of mind.
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post Oct 14 2020, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 14 2020, 09:06 PM)
After reading into the link Hansel shared, I become interested with baby bonds. But I don't see any way to buy baby bonds via IBKR. All the results shown under the bond scanner only has large denomination size of 2k USD to 350/500k USD.

The blogger does not seem to provide any hints on buying baby bonds. Anyone here knows how to do that? (Anything to share from you, Hansel?)

EDIT: I found one, it's actually called exchange traded debt and is traded like stocks with par value 25 USD per share and you can buy from a minimum of 1 share. Commission is 1.5 USD from IBKR's TWS platform.

https://stockmarketmba.com/analyze.php?s=PRS

For this example, the ticker symbol is PRS.
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Hi bro,... I have not explored this area for sometime,... Perhaps after you tried it out, you can share your findings. I might pick it up from there,...

Kinda busy right now.

But appreciated your efforts though,...
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post Oct 14 2020, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 14 2020, 10:47 PM)
What is the 1% WHT for ? Didn't you ask ?

SCB has no platform fees. IB has platform fees if you do not have assets worth USD100K inside IB, unless you go with their front-end proxies which you called white-(somethings). 
Nobody asked you to exchange inside SCB, you can always exchange outside SCB and TT into SCB for a good amt...
If needed to call in and still able to do your corporate action, it's better than NOT being able to do your corporate action at all for IB,.. there has been problems at IB. You can't subscribe to IPOs at IB, right ??

DBSV's platform fees can be waived if you have sufficient transactions, and the platform fee is only SGD 2, come on,....
No worries abt the dividend fees if your amt is substantial enough.
Again, nobody asked you to change your currency inside DBSV,... you don't know enough abt changing in other ways inside the DBS Group. IB's spot rate is still not the closest to the interbank rate. DBS Group's is !!

At the end of the day,... I will still stick to a bank established inside SG. That's my preference,... I wouldn't mind paying a bit more for this peace of mind.
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Don't know. Don't care. 1% is better than a 30% tax so I can live with that.

Use whitelabels la. After get USD200k transfer back to IB. Avoid at the platform fees. Actually IB can do corporate action like scrip. They notified you when you login. You can do it online yourself. No calling involve. For IPO I think pure IB can. But never buy stuff at IPO. Wait few months for people to load off the IPO and potential to buy cheaper.

Question: can changing outside SCB/DBS at cheaper price open for normal customer/non priority/private banking people? Will be interesting if it exist for normal people.
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post Oct 14 2020, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 14 2020, 09:06 PM)
After reading into the link Hansel shared, I become interested with baby bonds. But I don't see any way to buy baby bonds via IBKR. All the results shown under the bond scanner only has large denomination size of 2k USD to 350/500k USD.

The blogger does not seem to provide any hints on buying baby bonds. Anyone here knows how to do that? (Anything to share from you, Hansel?)

EDIT: I found one, it's actually called exchange traded debt and is traded like stocks with par value 25 USD per share and you can buy from a minimum of 1 share. Commission is 1.5 USD from IBKR's TWS platform.

https://stockmarketmba.com/analyze.php?s=PRS

For this example, the ticker symbol is PRS.
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Enable trading permission in IB. Then go to his blog and search for those ticker symbols he posted. Should be able to buy some stuff.
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post Oct 14 2020, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 14 2020, 11:03 PM)
Don't know. Don't care. 1% is better than a 30% tax so I can live with that.

Use whitelabels la. After get USD200k transfer back to IB. Avoid at the platform fees. Actually IB can do corporate action like scrip. They notified you when you login. You can do it online yourself. No calling involve. For IPO I think pure IB can. But never buy stuff at IPO. Wait few months for people to load off the IPO and potential to buy cheaper.
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Your needs are different from mine,.. and our needs and circumstances are different from others. You can't say SCB and DBSV are bad and ONLY IB is good. Everybody's personal circumstances is different. And what's the problem with calling SCB's Online Trading Unit ? Their call centre is in Cyberjaya,... they're quite efficient too. And very polite and customer-oriented in their speech,....it's a pleasure to speak with them.

Don't bad-mouth SCB and DBSV,... you have accounts inside too.

You have not been able to get your hands on the recent Snowflake IPO. IF you have,... you wouldn't want to say never to buy stiff at IPO stage.
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post Oct 15 2020, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 14 2020, 11:17 PM)
Your needs are different from mine,.. and our needs and circumstances are different from others. You can't say SCB and DBSV are bad and ONLY IB is good. Everybody's personal circumstances is different. And what's the problem with calling SCB's Online Trading Unit ? Their call centre is in Cyberjaya,... they're quite efficient too. And very polite and customer-oriented in their speech,....it's a pleasure to speak with them.

Don't bad-mouth SCB and DBSV,... you have accounts inside too.

You have not been able to get your hands on the recent Snowflake IPO. IF you have,... you wouldn't want to say never to buy stiff at IPO stage.
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I don't like to call/email. I like my stuff online. Come on we are living in digital world now.

I am not bad mouthing them. I am bad mouthing traditional sg brokerage. Very old fashion, inefficient and expensive compare to likes of FSM, interactive broker, robinhood, M1 finance and trading212.
When you see the functionality, price of those brokerage, they are "wow" and wish we have access to such brokerage especially robinhood, M1 finance and trading 212 you really wish that there's an Asian equivalent.

You can't believe POEMS in Singapore still insist on snail mail to update account stuff. Yes it's true. I got a shock. I never touch DBS Vickers anymore. Been using FSM for Singapore reits and interactive broker for all international stocks and sg stocks. Love FSM for being truly online.

IPO again I don't buy into IPO stuff. Just wait for say June next year. I am sure snowflake will drop by then eh?

About the conversion USD, is it open for normal people (non priority banking customer)?

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 15 2020, 01:18 AM
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post Oct 21 2020, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Oct 14 2020, 07:20 PM)
Hahaha yeah found out during the CIMB-SG call today - I got the steps mixed up  rclxub.gif  doh.gif

I was doing:
1) Open CIMB SG FastSavers
2) Transfer minimum $ from CIMB MY account to CIMB SG account, via Foreign Transfer
3) Transfer balance $ (to meet $1k) from any other sources
4) CIMB Clicks MY - link account and wait for approval (for linkage)
5) Wait for account activation approval

Instead, the correct step should've been:
1) Open CIMB SG FastSavers
2) CIMB Clicks MY - link account and wait for approval (for linkage)
3) Transfer minimum $1 from CIMB MY account to CIMB SG account, via "Own Account Transfer"
3) Transfer balance $ (to meet $1k) from any other sources
4) Wait for account activation approval
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Just to share my (not so good) experience. On step 2, if the linkage application "suddenly went missing", chances are, the Malaysia CIMB team rejected it. Took me 4x resubmit with 3x calls escalation to find out.

Funny thing is, Singapore side requires (and request) to do Link Singapore Account first via CIMB Malaysia to allow E-KYC transfer to ACTIVATE account.
But Malaysia side rejected the linkage on basis of "its not yet an activated account".

Thankfully after few rounds of escalation it got resolved. Now just waiting for the "magic call" from Singapore and also to review the approval for account opening...

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post Oct 21 2020, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Oct 21 2020, 08:07 PM)
Just to share my (not so good) experience. On step 2, if the linkage application "suddenly went missing", chances are, the Malaysia CIMB team rejected it. Took me 4x resubmit with 3x calls escalation to find out.

Funny thing is, Singapore side requires (and request) to do Link Singapore Account first via CIMB Malaysia to allow E-KYC transfer to ACTIVATE account.
But Malaysia side rejected the linkage on basis of "its not yet an activated account".

Thankfully after few rounds of escalation it got resolved. Now just waiting for the "magic call" from Singapore and also to review the approval for account opening...
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wow, how do you escalate?
Is it because just opening new CIMB MY account?
How to convince them?? notworthy.gif
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post Oct 21 2020, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(asimov82 @ Oct 21 2020, 09:18 PM)
wow, how do you escalate?
Is it because just opening new CIMB MY account?
How to convince them??  notworthy.gif
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Actually I already have CIMB MY account so that was 1 step saved for me. It was just the CIMB Clicks MY linking Singapore account part that frustrated me the most..

I called CIMB MY multiple times and demand for at least an answer - quoting CIMB SG's requirement of e-KYC via linked Singapore accounts.

Chronology:
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This speed/timing can compete with my HK account opening process already rclxub.gif ranting.gif

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post Oct 22 2020, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Oct 21 2020, 09:51 PM)
Actually I already have CIMB MY account so that was 1 step saved for me. It was just the CIMB Clicks MY linking Singapore account part that frustrated me the most..

I called CIMB MY multiple times and demand for at least an answer - quoting CIMB SG's requirement of e-KYC via linked Singapore accounts.

Chronology:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

This speed/timing can compete with my HK account opening process already rclxub.gif  ranting.gif
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As of 3.30pm today, my Singapore account verification completed and activated. Received SMS for CIMB Clicks SG activation code. And also an email on the application approvals update.

Surprisingly they didn't call me hmm.gif but oh well, 2 weeks of nightmare is finally done (11 Oct - 22 Oct)

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Edit 23 Oct: they called me because I sent one support ticket before 3pm on 22nd Oct, just for formality. Here's what I found :
- my experience (and a few other recent applicants past 14 days) have these issue because of internal confusion on CIMB CLICKS MY team (they claim that they just had some shuffling / new joiners that was not clear with SOP)
- after EKYC transfer, typically they didn't need to call and will auto approve / reject as long as you already done first round call verification and have 1000SGD inside

This post has been edited by polarzbearz: Oct 23 2020, 08:22 PM
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May I know how long it took for CIMB MY to approve the linkage with CIMB SG?

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Sep 23 2020, 04:24 PM)
Eh? I thought CIMB SG is the more cost effective one? Isavvy has SGD500 minimum balance requirement, while FastSaver has none.

Anyway, would like to add to the wealth of info in this thread on SG account opening:

1) Opened CIMB MY account at local branch (3pm 21/9 Monday)
2) Opened CIMB SG account online via CIMB SG website (5.30pm 21/9)
3) Initiated linkage of CIMB SG to CIMB MY via CIMB Clicks MY
4) Initiated Transferwise transfer SGD 1000 into CIMB SG account (11pm)
5) TransferWise transfer SGD 1000 completed (9am 22/9 Tuesday)
6) Linkage of CIMB SG to CIMB MY completed. CIMB SG account status shows "active" already when I checked. Still pending activation code for CIMB Clicks SG (5pm)
7) Performed SGD 1 from CIMB MY to CIMB SG for KYC (as advised on page 1).
8) Received call from CIMB SG for identity verification. Clarified with officer that CIMB MY "active" is just linkage active, not account active. (11am 23/9 Wednesday)
9) CIMB Clicks SG activation code received. (2pm).
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QUOTE(petitetennessee @ Oct 23 2020, 02:19 PM)
May I know how long it took for CIMB MY to approve the linkage with CIMB SG?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 14 2020, 11:17 PM)
Your needs are different from mine,.. and our needs and circumstances are different from others. You can't say SCB and DBSV are bad and ONLY IB is good. Everybody's personal circumstances is different. And what's the problem with calling SCB's Online Trading Unit ? Their call centre is in Cyberjaya,... they're quite efficient too. And very polite and customer-oriented in their speech,....it's a pleasure to speak with them.

Don't bad-mouth SCB and DBSV,... you have accounts inside too.

You have not been able to get your hands on the recent Snowflake IPO. IF you have,... you wouldn't want to say never to buy stiff at IPO stage.
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Hi, u manage to subscribe for SNOW ipo from your brokerage SCB/DBSV?
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QUOTE(thecurious @ Oct 23 2020, 05:51 PM)

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post Oct 23 2020, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(petitetennessee @ Oct 23 2020, 02:19 PM)
May I know how long it took for CIMB MY to approve the linkage with CIMB SG?
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Literally 2 posts before this I posted a lengthy chronological description sweat.gif
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post Oct 23 2020, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Oct 23 2020, 08:20 PM)
Literally 2 posts before this I posted a lengthy chronological description sweat.gif
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Many people don't read previous post.
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post Oct 27 2020, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(126126 @ Oct 23 2020, 06:25 PM)
Hi, u manage to subscribe for SNOW ipo from your brokerage SCB/DBSV?
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Good morning,.. I did not use any SG broker for this.

I subscribed thru my broker in Canada,...
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Oct 23 2020, 08:20 PM)
Literally 2 posts before this I posted a lengthy chronological description sweat.gif
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What is the Transaction Instruction and Purpose of Payment chosen when sending CIMB MY -> CIMB SG ??
Doesn't seem to have suitable option if just want to open account for share investment. sweat.gif

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