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Hansel
post Oct 12 2020, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 12 2020, 12:38 AM)
Actually it's tax free. No need to claimed or anything. It won't be with held by IB at all. Of course if you use other SG broker then I don't know  biggrin.gif

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http://globalincome50.blogspot.com/

That's the reason he have all bonds in his portfolio. He mentioned in the comments it's tax free.
Yes I when through most of his blog post in the past 2 years a=together with the comments.
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I know that blog. You have an account with IB. Have you tried buying a US baby bond and not have your interest payout 30% withheld ?

Do you have first hand experience of this ?
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post Oct 12 2020, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 12 2020, 03:31 PM)
I know that blog. You have an account with IB. Have you tried buying a US baby bond and not have your interest payout 30% withheld ?

Do you have first hand experience of this ?
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Nope. What for I want to buy a bond? Like I said I have no use for bonds. I have no place for bonds in my portfolio.

So I can't test. But according to blogger yes if you use IB you will get full payment.

He's singaporean. So no tax treaty with US govt.

Use EPF as your bond part. Do not need any bond other than EPF

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 12 2020, 06:20 PM
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post Oct 13 2020, 01:51 PM

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Sorry to hitch on this thread a little, but is there a way for us to open a bank account in HK? Maybe via Public Bank, HSBC, StandChart like the way we did for SG CIMB/Maybank?

QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 12 2020, 03:31 PM)
I know that blog. You have an account with IB. Have you tried buying a US baby bond and not have your interest payout 30% withheld ?

Do you have first hand experience of this ?
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you don't use IB? What do you use?

This post has been edited by moosset: Oct 13 2020, 01:54 PM
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post Oct 13 2020, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 13 2020, 01:51 PM)
Sorry to hitch on this thread a little, but is there a way for us to open a bank account in HK? Maybe via Public Bank, HSBC, StandChart like the way we did for SG CIMB/Maybank?
you don't use IB? What do you use?
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Can if you have big money. Rm250k and agd250k to park on SGD side.
Valid only for standard chartered.
HSBC need rm250k park under them.

He use DBS Vickers and SCB I think. SCB blanket withhold everything cause they too lazy to with hold correctly even when they not suppose to with hold.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 13 2020, 04:02 PM
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post Oct 13 2020, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 13 2020, 01:51 PM)
Sorry to hitch on this thread a little, but is there a way for us to open a bank account in HK? Maybe via Public Bank, HSBC, StandChart like the way we did for SG CIMB/Maybank?
you don't use IB? What do you use?
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If I recalled correctly, you need a HKID to open a HK bank account. Otherwise, just store your money in your broker's cash account. Not sure if this is helpful.
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post Oct 13 2020, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 13 2020, 01:51 PM)
Sorry to hitch on this thread a little, but is there a way for us to open a bank account in HK? Maybe via Public Bank, HSBC, StandChart like the way we did for SG CIMB/Maybank?
you don't use IB? What do you use?
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Not sure about others but just sharing my experience. I was in Hong Kong for assignments back in 2016 and their account opening protocol was really strict. I had to have employment letter, proof of residence etc., and also HKID (which I has to use "temporary HKID" because the actual card wasn't issued to me yet). End to end, took me 4 weeks to open a bank account after validation, fraud check etc.

Main reason why I decided to keep my HSBC HK (Basic) account even after years of repatriation home. Good thing about it is I'm already a HSBC MY customer so my accounts are already linked.


With that experience I'm not sure how easy to open one virtually, though I hope I'm wrong and all the best!

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any other potential overseas account that can be opened virtually?
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post Oct 13 2020, 07:31 PM

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any other potential overseas account that can be opened virtually?
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Just hope revolut open shop in Malaysia.
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post Oct 13 2020, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 13 2020, 02:32 PM)
Can if you have big money. Rm250k and agd250k to park on SGD side.
Valid only for standard chartered.
HSBC need rm250k park under them.
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It is RM200,000 with HSBC. For Standard Chartered Singapore, it is $200,000. Standard Chartered Hong Kong is $1,000,000.

It however DOES NOT guarantee you successful account opening in your host country if you were to go via the HSBC Premier route.
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post Oct 13 2020, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Sep 25 2020, 02:33 PM)
@Ramjade got it right. I only got a call from CIMB SG after I did the SGD1 transfer from CIMB MY. TransferWise SGD1000 was successful but did not prompt the CIMB SG call.
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Sep 26 2020, 02:52 PM)
Ramjade really very experienced to be able to tell =). I just saw that CIMBClicks showing my SG account already, so just did the same thing (SGD1 transfer) successfully. Now will get my friend to put in SGD1k.

Thanks to both of you for assistance!
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On a second note, just applied for SG CIMB this week and when attempting to do Foreign Transfer with 1SGD, seems like CIMB Clicks MY is blocking it hmm.gif

I had to do a minimum MYR250 transfer so I went ahead with SGD100 (MYR 310.20). Or maybe I'm doing it wrongly hmm.gif

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what's the latest interest rate for maybank isavvy vs cimb fastsavers?
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Oct 13 2020, 10:28 PM)
On a second note, just applied for SG CIMB this week and when attempting to do Foreign Transfer with 1SGD, seems like CIMB Clicks MY is blocking it hmm.gif

I had to do a minimum MYR250 transfer so I went ahead with SGD100 (MYR 310.20). Or maybe I'm doing it wrongly hmm.gif

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Maybe cimb my block it.


QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Oct 13 2020, 11:09 PM)
what's the latest interest rate for maybank isavvy vs cimb fastsavers?
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Defintely worse than cimb. CImb is already at 0.5%. Use stashaway simple sg version to get 1.4% if you don't mind waiting few days for your money.
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post Oct 14 2020, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 12 2020, 05:43 PM)
Nope. What for I want to buy a bond? Like I said I have no use for bonds. I have no place for bonds in my portfolio.

So I can't test. But according to blogger yes if you use IB you will get full payment.

He's singaporean. So no tax treaty with US govt.

Use EPF as your bond part. Do not need any bond other than EPF
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Since you have not experienced it personally and was just commenting based on what you read in some blogger's forum,.. I thought I'd ignore what you said,.. but well,... I changed my mind.

I suspect that blogger has some background with the IRS that we don't. That's why IB need not withhold the 30% against him,... For other account-holders, our interest will still be withheld. It's not so easy, bro,.... I think if Biden wins, it will be worse when it comes to taxation matters.

I need not use the EPF as my preferred bond proxy.

I don't want to earn the Malaysian Ringgit. I am earning many major currencies of the world thru my investments,.. why fallback to the MYR for my investment income ? And I am confident my investment outcome can beat the EPF's without even considering the currency exchange.

Anyway,.. I have uses for other currencies too,... my children are considering furthering their career to Euro and The US. I may help neph too.
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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 13 2020, 01:51 PM)
you don't use IB? What do you use?
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I don't, bro,... As bro Ramjade said, I use those two,... looks like he knows me very well,.... biggrin.gif

He doesn't know which platform that I use for which instrument.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 14 2020, 02:32 PM)
Since you have not experienced it personally and was just commenting based on what you read in some blogger's forum,.. I thought I'd ignore what you said,.. but well,... I changed my mind.

I suspect that blogger has some background with the IRS that we don't. That's why IB need not withhold the 30% against him,... For other account-holders, our interest will still be withheld. It's not so easy, bro,.... I think if Biden wins, it will be worse when it comes to taxation matters.

I need not use the EPF as my preferred bond proxy.

I don't want to earn the Malaysian Ringgit. I am earning many major currencies of the world thru my investments,.. why fallback to the MYR for my investment income ? And I am confident my investment outcome can beat the EPF's without even considering the currency exchange.

Anyway,.. I have uses for other currencies too,... my children are considering furthering their career to Euro and The US. I may help neph too.
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What he said is correct. Tested with BPY. No tax. No reason to doubt him. Maybe is your broker. He laid out reasons why bonds are not taxed. Time for a change in broker? biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Oct 13 2020, 10:28 PM)
On a second note, just applied for SG CIMB this week and when attempting to do Foreign Transfer with 1SGD, seems like CIMB Clicks MY is blocking it hmm.gif

I had to do a minimum MYR250 transfer so I went ahead with SGD100 (MYR 310.20). Or maybe I'm doing it wrongly hmm.gif

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You're trying to do Foreign Transfer, you should just do 'Transfer Money' (first option under 'Pay and Transfer'.

For selecting the 'To' account, under 'your own accounts' you should see your FastSaver account (once it's linked). There you can transfer 1SGD.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 14 2020, 03:25 PM)
What he said is correct. Tested with BPY. No tax. No reason to doubt him. Maybe is your broker. He laid out reasons why bonds are not taxed. Time for a change in broker?  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif
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You bought Brookfield listed in the Nasdaq personally and your payout was not taxed ? Or are you mentioning someone else's action/experience again ?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 14 2020, 02:37 PM)
I don't, bro,... As bro Ramjade said, I use those two,... looks like he knows me very well,.... biggrin.gif

He doesn't know which platform that I use for which instrument.... biggrin.gif
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Ah, how do you open DBS Vickers account or SCB account? You are based in Singapore? (Maybe JB?)
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I didn't know there is such a thing called baby bond. Thanks for sharing the link! thumbup.gif

At least another alternative choice for higher-yielding products.
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post Oct 14 2020, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 14 2020, 04:05 PM)
You bought Brookfield listed in the Nasdaq personally and your payout was not taxed ? Or are you mentioning someone else's action/experience again ?
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Tested by me. True as what blogger said. Only about 1% dividend with holding tax.

QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 14 2020, 05:01 PM)
Ah, how do you open DBS Vickers account or SCB account? You are based in Singapore? (Maybe JB?)
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Go there and open. Not worth it. Stick with our IB. FSM better than DBS V and SCB for a foreigner.
FSM for Singapore reits.
IB for overseas stocks.

Reason
SCB
- SCB blindly hold the tax even though they don't need to hold it.
Which means less money for you Vs IB which is very smart.
- Their exchange rate sucks Vs IB's spot rate. No broker can best IB spot rate.
- SCB need to call in every now and then for corporate action.

DBS Vickers
- quarterly platform fees for overseas stock
- corporate action fees (dividend fees) for overseas stock
- higher exchange rate Vs IB but lower Vs SCB
- cannot do rights or preferential offering if you a foreigner without sg addess.



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