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TOMEI-R
post Jan 13 2017, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 11:41 AM)
The news with the one who kena tangkap holding so much foreign currency really  doh.gif
This applies to unemployed Malaysian also. But I don't think all banks that strict.
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Those who kena tangkap are the really big fishes. I would suspect those are money changers transferring huge amounts for clients who do not want to go through proper channels.
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post Jan 13 2017, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jan 13 2017, 12:41 PM)
There is definitely a back channel for such things. Just not publicly available to normal citizens.  brows.gif
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There is.. These money changers still do it. Remember the case the money changer with with the bullet proof Toyota Fortuner who got fired upon on the way to KLIA last year? They were heading to Sarawak. But I wonder how they will pass security checks? Or they have insiders?

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post Jan 14 2017, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jan 14 2017, 12:01 AM)
If a person wants to open an account just for the sake of opening it, then malaysia has forex account also.

Also, for forex share investment, it is not worth the effort for small timer to go to Sg. I think the local platform is more cost efficient and less effort to get involve in foreign currency stock investment
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Agree on that. Might as well open one in Malaysia. Save all the hassle and also the lost in coversion with banks/ money changers etc.


QUOTE(Shanglin @ Jan 14 2017, 12:30 AM)
1. One largest bank RM told me it is central bank directive that no more FCA account wil be allowed to be open. But I'm not sure whether this is apply to all or "very special" Priority customers still able to open cause I'm not seeking further clarification from him. What I can sense is, it is extremely not easy to open unless you have say RM500k above and it is their active customer that support them with DCI or purchase bond etc yet still need RM to act in favor of you.

2. Open sg account still possible for non resident but very tough, u need to heavily commit say with few hundred thousand sgd deposit or e.g. Buying a saving insurance from the bank with e.g. Sgd 3k monthly premium. (This is someone real encounters)

3. Opening e.g. Sg mbb account via local Mbb is possible but I think is not applicable to everyone and the process takes very long time. Opening sg mbb fca is some what more difficult unless again u r bank very worthy customers.

4. And more..
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Correct. Most banks will need a reason to let you open a savings account. Like mentioned, for Salary bank in, rental collection, bill payment etc. So if you dont have a valid working visa, you wont have a valid reason to open an account. Some banks do allow an account opening in the event,

1) You subscribe to their insurance/savings plans (so that they will need to open an account for you so that your monthly/yearly premium can go through. (An example would be UOB will ask you to buy their savings cum insurance plan which the yearly premium would be SGP $9000 per year minimum and you would need to service it is for 5 years at least.

2) Investment/ Funds etc which will warranty a need for a SGP bank account

3) Forex/ Shares trading accounts etc which will warranty a need for a SGP bank account


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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jan 14 2017, 07:44 AM)
Yes. Although same parent company, the same bank in Malaysia and Singapore are two separate entities. So the local bank can recommend, but it is up to the Sg bank to accept.

I heard HSBC can open overseas branch accounts right in Malaysia. I never tried though so I am not sure.

Rich people always are welcome and given privilege. The banks in Singapore will still welcome preferred/privileged/premier customers. The ballpark figure is US$300k thereabout. Or like you said, buy a big insurance policy.

For those who are small timer, it is arguable whether it is worth the while to open and maintain the forex account and trading platform in Sg. It may be more cost effective to use a local trading platform first and then when he grows bigger, only consider shifting to Sg.
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For HSBC Premier, you need to maintain Rm200k with HSBC My to enjoy Premier banking. You can request for a HSBC SG account to be opened here (no need to go to Singapore) but the account will be directly linked to your HSBC My account. You can view both accounts through the same HSBC.my online website. But do bear in mind that the SG account will be dependant on your HSBC.MY account and you have to maintain the Rm200k in order to maintain your Premier Status and to maintain the SG account.


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 14 2017, 01:25 AM)
Wah. I am not trader. I am aiming to for dividends only. sad.gif Don't sound like it can apply to me.
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Correct. We are just small timers looking at some extra pocket money only. tongue.gif Dont want the risks involved in Forex etc.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 14 2017, 11:17 AM)
Wait. Singapore have SGD10k? blink.gif I thought the biggest is SGD1k? confused.gif My God. I didn't know. Now only I know. doh.gif  But wonder local money changer have SGD10k note or not...
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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 14 2017, 11:35 AM)
10K note is no longer produced since 2014, but still legal tender. Still have some floating around.  tongue.gif
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Its being kept as a 'collectors' item now. I doubt it will be easy to get one. Meaning you would have to pay more to get it off the hands of "Collectors'. laugh.gif

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post Jan 15 2017, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Shanglin @ Jan 14 2017, 09:33 PM)
Leng Lui tend to have good luck?🤓
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Are you sure its a She? laugh.gif

Anyway, Congrats for your account opening with Maybank SG.
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post Jan 15 2017, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jan 15 2017, 02:20 PM)
you're welcome. good stuff need to share.  biggrin.gif
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post Jan 16 2017, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jan 15 2017, 11:33 PM)
linked to brokerage account to receive dividends.  tongue.gif
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Suggest some good investments over at Sgp please. tongue.gif
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post Jan 16 2017, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 16 2017, 03:26 PM)
S-REITS, their UT (much superior than ours), access to worldwide ETF.
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jan 16 2017, 04:03 PM)
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disclaimer: not a buy call. trade at your own risk.
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Something with lower risk. But FDs are only 1.28% max over in Singapore. doh.gif
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post Jan 23 2017, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 23 2017, 06:06 PM)
Guys,.. if got 'tricks',.. better to use PM. When Sgp authorities keep seeing 'tricks' here and there,.. soon, they will set the criteria very high for opening and for maintaining an SG Acct..
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Very true. So are the discussions to 'trick' bankers into letting you open an account without valid documents. Its still illegal anyway. tongue.gif
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post Jan 24 2017, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Jan 23 2017, 10:38 PM)
so easy to open CIMB Fastsaver,now need to find RM 3k+ to fund this account within 30 days lol
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You need to do a "FAST" transfer from another Singaporean Bank account. Failling to do so within 30 days, CIMB will cancel the account. There is only one way, which is to tranfer money from another Singaporean Bank account. So actually this doesn't help for those that dont have a Singapore Bank account in the first day.
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post Jan 29 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(drbone @ Jan 28 2017, 10:32 PM)
What are the perks ? Or how can one reap the highest benefits from putting in SGD 200k?
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Well you get preferential services when it comes to banking... Ie a different queue number when you go to their banks. You need not wait like crazy like the rest and others who came earlier will be jealous when you sit on the RM's table and she attends to your needs. tongue.gif

Actually, the above is just part of it. Other perks would be you would get a totally different banking hall to separate you from the masses with coffee, snacks and reading materials (depending on branch) while waiting for services. You would get a personal RM to attend to all your needs. You will get access to personalized services not available to the masses eg: Personal concierge with their bank branches worldwide etc, special offers for deposits etc. That is just to name a few, you have to be a priority customer to know what benefits you would get.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 29 2017, 10:54 AM)
How's the service compare to malaysian priority banking?
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Happy CNY to you bro.... CNY still layan forums? tongue.gif

Back to your question, lets just say their services are more tailored towards Sinkies needs. Banking is the same but level of services offered are different.

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post Jan 31 2017, 09:14 AM

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2017 New rules for opening a bank account in Singapore. You would need to furnish your TIN (tax identification number). Means your LHDN tax reference number.
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post Feb 2 2017, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(kart @ Feb 1 2017, 10:18 AM)
Thank you very much for your generous advices as always, Hansel. We, newbies, have so much to learn from you.  notworthy.gif


One question: I have a Standard Chartered JustOne Personal Account (saving account cum current account) in Malaysia. With that, does it make it easier to open a Standard Chartered saving account, and trading account in Singapore?

Thanks again for your advice.  thumbup.gif
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SCB Malaysia is not related to SCB Singapore. I have asked them before. So no, you cant open an account in SGP even if you have an account with SCB Malaysia.


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 1 2017, 09:04 PM)
SCB is as good as gone case. Went to 3 branch (woodlands, battery road, mbfc) refuse to open for me just because I am a Malaysian. They told me MAS have tighten the rules in opening account ESPECIALLY AGAINST MALAYSIANS starting last year. The future looks dark for us if we want to open account in other country seeing that MAS has started to act against us.

You cannot open online trading account without a SA. vmad.gif I told them I don't need your SA, I just want the online trading account. Told me no.

Told me I still can qualify for a eSaver account if I have either one
1) UT with them SGD50k at 3% SC (some branch do not accept this)
2) Mortgage
3) Endowment plan SGD500/month for 5 years. Can only withdraw at 10th years. Expected returns 3% pa
SGD400/month for 10 years. Expected retuns 3.8% pa

I wonder if I can email MAS and complain that SCB did not let me open online trading account without a must for their SA. hmm.gif
Can use cimb SG (which I think is better than Maybank). Another way to transfer the money globally at cheap rate: Transferwise. Only drawback cannot transfer MY > SG but no problem with SG > MY.
Is out of question. They refuse to open online trading account without the saving account. The sabing account is a must. sad.gif
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Already mentioned that our government is becoming stricter on currency outflow controls. Apparently a lot of foreigners are using Singapore as a platform to park their money. Especially the Indonesians. Hey... dont forget even Jho Low parks him money over there. tongue.gif

But anyway, I think SCB charges are quite exhorbitant. Imagine, you have to pay $20 Sgd for your bankcard annual fee. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(chunjietlee @ Feb 2 2017, 03:39 PM)
Going for OCBC360 savings account. Went to open the account last month, they want me to prove mailing/residential address.
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Its another way of saying no to you. Like mentioned, all Singapore banks require a Singapore work permit or a SGP mailing address. Their government and our government are very strict now on allowing non working foreigners on opening an account there.
The only way of going around it is to buy their savings/insurance plans and that will ensure you be able to open an account there. However, there would be a need to commit to their said savings/insurance plan.

QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 2 2017, 03:47 PM)
Okay.

Interest rate is less important for my purpose as I don't intend to keep so much money there. I only want to keep the bare minimum to maintain the account.
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That will be the no 1 rejection reason. Banks just are not interested in maintaining such accounts because there are no profits for them. No profits for them means no point opening an account for you. I've come upon bankers who will tell you straight in the face that they are not interested in customers opening such accounts. So make sure you dont tell them this. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 2 2017, 06:46 PM)
Which is quite cheap and affordable but lousy return. Case point SCB.

brows.gif Same here. Will leave nohing inside my SG account.
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Everyone knows Singaporean banks offer shitty returns for savings/ fds. But do not promote what you are saying above as we do no want Singaporeans banks to buck everytime they see a Malaysian walking in to open an account. TBH, they really take out the red carpet for Indonesians before this but the Indonesian government is trying hard to stop this by offering amnesty for all Indonesians to transfer all their funds back to Indonesia. So its even harder for Indonesians to open an account now in Singapore as they have to go through some stringent checks by Singapore authorities before being allowed to open accounts there as apparently the Singapore government has reached an agreement with their Indonesian counterparts regarding this issue.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 2 2017, 06:59 PM)
SCB told ms SGD500/month and ony get 3% pa for their insurance plan for 5 years  ranting.gif puke.gif Told them straight in the face, no I am not interested in your insurance plan as insurance plans give miserable returns.

The power of government cooperation.  bruce.gif Wonder if MAS and BNM will cooperate to prevent Malaysians from further opening account...
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Bro... FD even worst at only 1.25% per annum. doh.gif

The Malaysian government will try to ask for Singapore to cooperate and I dont think the Singapore government will drag their feet on this issue as it involves bilateral relations.

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QUOTE(psyduck89 @ Feb 3 2017, 02:25 PM)
since we need to park money at that account.. isit wise to open an FD account at sg bank?
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Well it depends on what purpose you need an account in Singapore. Dont just transfer money over because everybody said so. Like mentioned, you must have a plan for your money. Ie Investments, FDs, currency exchange.

QUOTE(dasecret @ Feb 3 2017, 02:30 PM)
They seem to keep increasing minimum deposit amount before charging maintenance fee; my DBS minimum is only SGD1k; n previously only SGD500

Hmm, CIMB cannot open SG account anymore? Just last year or the year before can open a CIMB SG account through CIMB Msia; don't even need to go to SG physically. Link to cimbclicks Msia even

I don't really bank with Citibank, so no status la, status borrower only
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The easiest account opening in Singapore right now would be CIMB. You dont even need to be present at their Singapore branch. You can open an account online but the catch is that you must perform a "FAST" transfer from another Singaporean bank account. FAST transfer is like our local IBG here. Im not sure though if you can get someone else account to transfer over the SGD $1k for account opening.
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Feb 3 2017, 04:32 PM)
Oh, is that the catch? I never know that. But the SGD1k transfer did take place for the account I was talking about. The transfer was made from a third party account
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So what happened after that? Did CIMB Sg contacted you after that?

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 3 2017, 04:34 PM)
I email Cimb. The FAST trasnfer must come from another Singapore account in your name. Third party, TT won't cut it. It's even stated on their website.
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Should be so. If not everyone can open an account easily. laugh.gif Btw, CIMB Sg is not quite as popular and have many branches around the island. So those intending to open an account there, do take note of this.

QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 3 2017, 04:34 PM)
FAST is more like our IBFT if not mistaken.

No, you must transfer from your own name account, meaning you must have already hold a singapore SA to FAST transfer to CIMB fastsaver to open the account
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There is only one type of IBG over in SG. FAST is both IBG/IBFT.

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