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Philosophy Philosophical question of intangibility., And ultimately, inevitably to God.

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Beastboy
post May 30 2010, 11:28 PM

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If love, sadness and joy can be perceived by our senses, then they would be tangibles according to the definition you posted.

QUOTE(Deadlocks @ May 30 2010, 02:40 PM)
Let's take a look of what intangibility really is:

http://www.answers.com/topic/intangible

Incapable of being perceived by the senses.
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On your question

QUOTE(Deadlocks @ May 30 2010, 02:40 PM)
Here's the big question then. How is it then, that the "feeling" of believing in a God, any different from the chemical reactions that can be measured by science?
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There's no difference to me. My hope of going to heaven if I do good things is no different than my hope of winning a lottery if I buy enough tickets. People can call it blasphemous to equate a lottery to heaven but as far as I'm concerned, all do-A-get-B concepts that work off blind faith fire off the same neurons in the mind.

QUOTE(Deadlocks @ May 30 2010, 02:40 PM)
how will you justify your acceptance of the chemical reaction of your body pertaining to human emotions, and not the chemical reaction of a "feeling" to believe in a God?
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Again, as long as anger, sadness, and hope can be felt, the first criteria of tangibility you posted is satisfied so emotions are 'real' in that regard. Now, can God be felt? Not to me. There is no emotion called God. Neither is it a force of gravity, heat or electricity that can be felt. For an all-powerful always present superbeing that promises to pulverize you for being disobedient, it is extremely shy. It doesn't satisfy any criteria of tangibility that I know.

If you don't want anything about religion here in this topic, it's gonna be hard when you ot the word God appearing 9 times in the original post. smile.gif


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post May 31 2010, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ May 30 2010, 11:37 PM)
there are also theoretically existent items that cannot be detected at current technology level. the higgs boson is a very prominent example - so called the "god particle" not because its all powerful, but because for something thats supposed to be everywhere,no one has seen it yet.
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Yes there will always be physical phenomena that's beyond the range of our physical senses but they're existence can be mathematically proven like the black holes and dark matter. We cannot see them but they leave measurable trails like gravity from which we infer their existence, even their mass. Can emotion be calculated and weighed? Hard to imagine.

QUOTE(lin00b @ May 30 2010, 11:37 PM)
and yes, if you ask me, emotions are but result of hormones and chemicals. as shown by hormonal imbalance affecting emotions (pms), mood altering drugs, hormone therapy, etc.
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Drug effects prove the strong link between consciousness and the biological brain, but hormones create them or they create hormones, I'm unsure. Adrenalin is produced by our system when we experience intense fear so it seems to me that such chemicals are an effect of emotion, not a cause.



 

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