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Philosophy Philosophical question of intangibility., And ultimately, inevitably to God.

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koaydarren
post Jan 18 2012, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ May 30 2010, 02:40 PM)
First thing first. I do not want anything about religion here in this topic. This is a question pretty much to atheists who do not believe in the existence of a Divine Being / Creator / Alpha & Omega / God.

So here's the question:

Let's take a look of what intangibility really is:

http://www.answers.com/topic/intangible

Incapable of being perceived by the senses.
Incapable of being realized or defined.
Incorporeal.

Now the argument from atheists is that: "we cannot see God, therefore God must not exists". However, what really begs a question here is that what about intangibles like "feelings", "love", "sadness", or even "joy"? Aren't they all intangibles, as to how a God can intangible? Sure, atheists will tell you that "feelings" can be measured with machines, due to our chemical reactions from the body itself, be it love, or sadness.

Here's the big question then. How is it then, that the "feeling" of believing in a God, any different from the chemical reactions that can be measured by science? Sure, they call it a "delusion", something I think a lot of people has as well, but the problem is, how will you justify your acceptance of the chemical reaction of your body pertaining to human emotions, and not the chemical reaction of a "feeling" to believe in a God?

After all, it's all only graphs and spectrum from a machine. Are "feelings" really just electronic impulses from a machine? And if they're not all "simply readings of a machine", then how do you actually believe in something that doesn't really have a corporeal, tangible form? Is that not describable as delusion as well? And lastly, if that's not really a delusion, then how is it different for a similar intangible Being known as God? Why is that you can accept the "existence" of "emotions of love", but not the "epiphany of God"? Are they both not intangible? Maybe you can say by saying: "Oh I can believe in the emotion of love because I can relate it to my mother taking care of me." But isn't that just a tangible circumstance that lead you to believe about this word: "love", and not the actual essence and existence "love" itself? How then it is different from a delusion as you atheists may have claimed about the belief of God as well?
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HAhax.. its all how u interpret ur own feelings. Happiness, love, sorrow, jealous is all about how you feel. For an example, You can accept people treating you good as a happy feeling or as a love feeling. Same goes to the feeling of existance of god, when we are believing in god, you are believing we are the creator of god. God is something invincible in your mind. For example, if we pray to the god, the usage of PRAY is just representing the word of hope or wish. The word of god might be just representing the word of filling your emptiness in your heart. Human always feel not enough and created something in their mind also known as god to full fill their own desires.

A question comes here, if every ideas are from the senses such as pain, vision, feeling and others. How do we explain the idea of god? how do we have the idea of god? Is the god an idea? how do we have the idea of god? Some might said senses are having the movement of particles such as chemical reaction, the movement of chairs or any goods that converted into ideas?

Its a very huge and subjective question, If you believe in god, actually god is truly exist because the belief of god is already a feeling same as you believe people treating you good is a kind of love although its involve in real particle of movement. I mean that the people and how he treats you is a real form of particles movement.

Lastly, what is god actually if we believe in god?
wanzulfikri
post Jan 19 2012, 03:44 PM

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Intangibility doesn't mean that things doesn't exist. It is in our mind thatwe perceive everything tangible as existent.

 

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