highest is 16k km - 8k km oil filter change then another 8k km full oil drain.
no problem, and no noticeable performance degradation.

after full drain and use fresh engine oil, not much difference, as if never changed engine oil.

yea, if u look properly, and i start wondering to get a proper PP or PU after this. However, the locally packed PP still working fine, revving to 2k felt abit rough, but now no longer with PP...

Unfortunately no...its only the ecotouring 5/30. But so far my car pick up is awesome...smooth, engine sound quite soft, but vibration from my air cond is still annoying.

This post has been edited by [F]atalit[Y]: May 20 2014, 09:50 AM

Hello sifu here,
I plan to change oil next 120,000 km. Before this I use Shell Helix Ultra and recently use Castrol Magnatec. My friend suggest me M7 Pro Oil 5w-40. Need advice from sifu here, is the M7 oil is good or not. I drive Persona manual btw.

for all campro engines, i personally recommend high end engine oils with good detergent or formulated with good friction modifier. i notice when campro engines run on good EO, they produce suprisingly good mileage and also much silent and smooth engine.

Shell Helix Ultra is good, M7 Pro is racing oil i suppose, as racing oil is not recommended for daily usage..

hmm afaik ace hardware have pennzoil as well...

they don't have the latest ultra though.
worse come to worse, there's always shell: http://paultan.org/2014/04/11/new-shell-he...ultra-launched/
i want 0w20/5w20 range though

imho la, almost all engine does that, even super old 4g15's or not so old QG16DE

most likely ace hardware's PP is from the US. Shell Helix Ultra does not have good detergent as PP does. SHU is famed for its friction modifier and it is more of racing oil rather than for daily usage. I think there is an article or review by users on SHU.


but to me, proton's campro engine has the most significant and obvious difference in using FS oi.

oh the new shell helix ultra is an OEM, or rather, joint venture with pennzoil. (shell helix ultra, pennzoil ultra/platinum ultra, are both using the same innovative breakthrough natural gas base stock)
i'm not 100% sure if they are the exact same products, maybe shell has more friction modifier while pennzoil has more detergent; either way i'm more towards siding with pennzoil since you can typically get cheaper pricing by not having the shell brand

as for the campro, perhaps it is due to their lotus racing engine origins that they may have higher demands in lubrication, or lack of refinement from proton as a daily driving car (again, derived from the lotus origins)
speculations here, but it does somewhat make sense.

Hi sifu, my ride is suzuki swift 1.4.. personally used EO from Suzuki (blended by Petronas) but nothing to shout about. Significant matter will be mileage reduced pumping other gas

Personally i have no experience in its spec but, would like to try other EO...
Wish to ask if BHP EO good for the car? Saw u all discussed on this, Pennzoil ok?
Currently using semi 10w30, will stick back to same grade.

Not sure how good is good for these, mind to share the cost of it? My driving style is A to B... not much high speed drive except in hway.

feel free to use any modern fully synthetic api sn ilsac gf5 certified engine oil within your engine specs (eg: xw20, xw30. you may ignore the value before w which is for winter grade)

https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsSearch
they will typically cost between rm140-240 per 4 liters depending on branding and performance.

feedback here on your experience

I looked thru a few generic brand and finds only Shell EO fit the spec u mentioned. Others is average at ilsac gf4 or even gf3. Will make next change according your recommendation.

If i ignore the winter grade, meaning to say i can use either 5w30 or 10w30 as long number at d back is same?

cannot be la, all major petrol (at least shell/petronas/caltex) brands have their api sn/gf5 certified EO lol.

and yes, short story = that is correct.
long story:
you're VERY specific on the viscosity index/40c or 100c performances etc or your car manufacturer specifically require specific winter grade (eg: 0w20, so when engine at cold start, oil can flow fast enough to not cause premature wear to the parts)

IC.. probably their website did not update. Eye on Shell HX7 5W30. Thanks for your advise bro.

you're welcome

im new about this...what is FC btw...

Fc is fuel consumption.^^…

Let me contribute some.
I have been using liqui moly Mos2. Very smooth oil and am satisfied with it but every time I changed the oil the mechanic would ask me why am I using 2nd hand oil due to the grey liquid color. Huhu..

Lexus fully syn is quite good too.

thnx bro

dun tink its natural gas base stock...all of them still group 3 esters...not yet PAO which they consider as group 4. definitely not the same product. if not mistaken, shell helix ultra is not formulated by SOPUS.

as for campro engines, i tink its a mass production engine with low QC, hence rough piston walls and the cylinder block itself. maybe FS oil is the only potion to this matter. thats y you see looks of ppl offering port and polish service for campro and able to lure out a few good bhps.

i guess any/majority cars if done port n polish will got extra hp. no?