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post Oct 8 2012, 04:45 PM

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According to "Lubes and Grease World Base Stock Guide" and "ICIS", there is a significant increase in demand for API Group III base oil.... Engine oil blended from Group III base oil is marketed as synthetic in many markets....


The increase in demand is driven by:
1) The standard of engine oil is getting higher and it is getting tougher for engine oil made from mineral base oil (API Group I) to get approved. These standards includes API, JASO, ACEA, ILSAC and etc

2) Global car manufacturers are demanding higher standard of engine oil to be used as factory and service filled due to increasing oil stress. Engine is getting smaller in displacement and getting more powerful.... Generally, Japanese car makers would refer to ILSAC, European car makers will refer to ACEA and their own standards such as MB p229.31/229.51, BMW LL04, VW504.00/507.00, RN 720 and etc, American car makers would refer to API, ILSAC and their own standards such as Ford WSS-M2C946A, GM Dexos 1 and 2.... GM had literally stated that only synthetic oil can be qualified to apply for approval of Dexos...

This is technological advancement of lubricant and automotive engineering, sooner or later, all car manufacturers will specify synthetic oil only...



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post Oct 9 2012, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Oct 8 2012, 03:54 PM)
Saw an advertisement the other day Delo 400 15w40 was being advertised for up to 50,000-km and that's a Mineral.
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Caltex Delo 400 is formulated with ISOSYN base oil....

http://www.caltex.com/my/products-and-serv...ubricants/delo/

What is ISOSYN?

The iso-syn method you referred to is the patented refining process that is used by Chevron (Caltex) to produce its base oils. This process is a hydrocracking process that consists of the following steps

The first step in this process is atmospheric and
vacuum distillation.

The second step in the process is severe
Hydrocracking to remove the majority of
sulfur, nitrogen and polar compounds and
saturate most of the aromatic and naphthenic
compounds that may be present.

The next step is Hydroisomerization which
is also known as Isodewaxing.

The Isodewaxing process which is patented by
Chevron takes n-paraffins and other molecules
with waxy side chains and converts them
into isomerized branched paraffinic
molecules (isoparaffins).

The Isodewaxing process can also use wax produced
by solvent dewaxing as one of its feedstocks.

The third step is severe hydrofinishing which is
used to remove any remaining sulfur,
nitrogen, polar compounds and unsaturated
molecules.

The final step is atmospheric and vacuum distillation to produce the desired viscosity grades.

This process produces Group III UCBO base oils
that have viscosity indexes ranging from 120 to
over 140.

API Group III base oil is generally marketed as Synthetic....

Caltex Delo 400 might not be blended with 100% ISOSYN base oil but it is definitely not full Group I mineral oil, I would say it should be categorized as at least Semi -Synthetic....

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post Oct 9 2012, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Oct 9 2012, 10:52 AM)
It's still technically Group II, not Group III. Dirt cheap at RM200 for 18 liter packing.
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It is not Group I conventional mineral, right? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Oct 10 2012, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(=oren= @ Oct 9 2012, 05:45 PM)
can anyone suggest me eo for myvi 1.3 80000 mileage  change. Looking for torco or liquid moly either ss/fs. Thanx
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You said you were looking for Torco or Liqui-Moly, but you also want someone to recommend engine oil.....

Bro, I am sorry, I don't quite understand....

Do you want people to recommend other brand or specific model/grade of Torco or Liqui-Moly? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Oct 14 2012, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(Jusb @ Oct 14 2012, 01:20 AM)
you're using synthetic gear oil?
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Synthetic or not, I am not quite sure, Sarjan would need to clarify on that... biggrin.gif

From what I know, Petro Canada makes gear lubes with a more stringent requirement than API GL-5, which is known as MACK GO-J and MACK GO J PLUS specifications....

MACK GO-J: designed to deliver 400,000km/2 years oil drain interval and satisfactory gear shifting after 65,000 cycles.

MACK GO-J PLUS: designed to deliver 800,000km/3 years oil drain interval and satisfactory gear shifting after 97,500 cycles.

I guess this is why Sarjan said that it can last so long....
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post Oct 18 2012, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(pumpman @ Oct 17 2012, 10:36 AM)
Thanks for the info... thumbup.gif

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post Oct 23 2012, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Doggystyle @ Oct 23 2012, 06:28 PM)
Hi guys,
Before I went to change oil, I checked the dip stick, , lets say theres 4 cm between Full and Empty, its at 2.5cm (meaning depleted 1.5cm).  Was using 3 liter of Magnatec Semisynth.
There's no visible oil patch on my carpark, and I changed the engine gasket like 10km ago because foreman say is leaking.

Is this normal for a 8 year old car?
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It is known as oil consumption / evaporation, it is quite normal..... but a good quality engine oil will evaporate less than a lower quality one...



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post Oct 30 2012, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(apihblind @ Oct 30 2012, 11:30 AM)
i hear oil treatment is useless is it a fact or myth? rclxub.gif
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Just to share.....

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Top pic shows the flashpoint of a typical Shell HX-7 Semi Synthetic 10W40

Bottom pic shows the flashponit of Bardahl 2 oil treatment / additive

Even though oil treatment, such as Bardahl 2
1) increase Viscosity Index
2) increase viscosity
3) improves anti wear properties....

It will lower the resultant flashpoint of the engine oil and make it more volatile....


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post Oct 31 2012, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Oct 31 2012, 01:53 AM)
tq for the explaination i appreciate those.

ok myb obsessed is alittle exaggerate . im more concern of it over an average joe owner. yea i try to read but only understand as much as the internet is overload with info, both facts n inaccurates opinion .

n ironically, i m trying to save if there is not that significant benefit to spend that much on FS lol trying to get the most value for money for SS thats why im finding what best suit my need rather than just go for FS with a visco that probly not suit my need. thats the challenge, to use within (money) ability
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When you start to have concern for car, you will start to learn more about cars nod.gif biggrin.gif

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post Nov 5 2012, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 3 2012, 06:58 AM)
I simply could not understand how could anyone pay so much for engine oil. Not unless I am driving a Porsche etc.
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It depends on individual and his/her love for the cars.....



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post Nov 5 2012, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 5 2012, 06:57 AM)
But cars like Proton and Vios etc? It's that over doing it?
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Proton, Vios or Kancil, it is still car they love....

I love my car, too, even though it is not Porsche.... biggrin.gif

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post Nov 5 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 5 2012, 10:43 AM)
IMO, RM200+/liter oil for Kancil is a total waste. It's like putting a beautiful rose on a lump of sh*t. Better to use cheaper oil which is more than good enough and save the money to upgrade the Kancil to a Myvi.
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People's car, people's love and people's money... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif ....so no comment... biggrin.gif

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post Dec 3 2012, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Dec 3 2012, 08:23 PM)
i going to buy MOBIL EP 5W-30 FULLY also
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorO...nce_5W-30.aspx#
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Comparing with many brands in the market, Mobil 1 EP is undoubtedly a very good quality engine oil which is API SN, ILSAC GF-5, GM Dexos1 and Honda HTO-06 approved..... However, if the HTHS and SAPS value can be increased a little bit more, it would be much better engine oil...

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post Dec 5 2012, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(pumpman @ Dec 5 2012, 11:14 AM)
Should be ok.. But don't you think is too thick for myvi ?
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Perodua specifies SAE 5w30 for Myvi (old and new)...

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post Dec 7 2012, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(eltonloo84 @ Dec 7 2012, 06:35 PM)
This Brand is still so new in Malaysia and engine oil market, as i say just give it try. And i  still researching before i really decide to use it or not. But actually this list is out of date already, some of the new model of engine oil of other famous brand also cant be found here.
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Do you mean that Engine Up has already got approval from API? Are you sure?

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post Dec 8 2012, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(eltonloo84 @ Dec 7 2012, 11:06 PM)
Noop, im not so sure about this. Needed to do the research again and again before confirmed to use. According my last reply is means that the website list is out of date cant take it as reference.

And somemore also no ppl can give a answer and confirmation about they get approval or not.  cool2.gif  sweat.gif

Just forget about Engine Up here bro, i dun wan occur argument while topic is for sharing purpose... Thanks  thumbup.gif  cheers.gif
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Thanks for sharing, I am just curious that Engine Up has got approval from API, I thought your know something about this, thats all...hehehe


Added on December 8, 2012, 8:38 am
QUOTE(eltonloo84 @ Dec 8 2012, 12:40 AM)
Yup, from the beginning i already say will research again and again before use it,ok?  Thank for advise..  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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Bro Elton, just to share.... hope it helps in your research...

If you are interested in Made in Malaysia / Singapore engine oil which is packed in very beautiful looking metal can.... check this out...

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/car...sia-market.html

Feel free to share your research findings for the benefits of the mass.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by enhanced vehicle: Dec 8 2012, 08:38 AM
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post Dec 8 2012, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Dec 8 2012, 10:41 PM)
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorO...nce_5W-30.aspx#
ok mou this one?


Added on December 8, 2012, 10:42 pm
changed to 10w30 will cause craked piston??? rclxub.gif
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I have to say that Mobil 1 EP 5w30 is a good oil, in fact it is a very very good oil.... But it is definitely not the best among the oil that I have tried so far...

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post Dec 9 2012, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Dec 8 2012, 11:45 PM)
that good
then i can try it on my campro iafm
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Unlike Campro CPS, Campro IAFM is running on flat tappet instead of roller tappet... I would suggest you use oil that has SAPS value above 0.9...
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post Dec 9 2012, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Dec 9 2012, 09:41 PM)
Sulphated Ash
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post Dec 9 2012, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Dec 9 2012, 10:05 PM)
this one 0.8 only leh
so cant use on my campro iafm lo? cry.gif
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I don't have the technical authority to say you can't use... It is just my personal opinion... wink.gif

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