Lets put it this way. If you are a person who goes to work 9 to 5 & back like me, it should not be a problem. Other wise, you should have opted for something smaller, say a Myvi or Viva which in my opinion are girlie cars. Persona's more of a guys' car. Top speed - 180Kmph one way to heaven for a 50K+ car. Where else can you find a bargain like this. Remember it is a solidly built 1.6 litre car. Not a tin can 1.5 litre Iswara. Don't waste precious time cracking your head doing all those penny saving fuel consumption calculus.

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I have come across this problem mentioned here sometime back. Apparently, there is a technique to crank up & switch-off the Persona (I suppose the same goes with the Waja) You have to turn the ignition switch (where you insert the car key) to "ON" & stay there briefly, say about 3 secs. before twisting the key fully until the engine comes to life. Do the reverse when you switch the engine. Opting for a lighter engine oil, 10W 40 instead of the OE standard 20W 50 would make morning starts easier. Sure works for me. I don't know if anyone else have heard about this technique & vouch that it works. Feedbacks are most welcome.

Does anyone out here ever wonder why the name "ELEGANCE" is not found on the body of the Persona. Just like the Saga "ISWARA" Proton keeps repeating these invisible names on their cars. Perhaps they are trying to copy the Merce.(name wise) but can't afford to pay for the badges.

After reading all this drama, I feel the owner of this vehicle should blame himself/herself for what happened. If the brakes are bad on the very first day, why not reject the car till it is fixed for safety sake. Even after 1K Km, the problem still persist, I think it is hell of a dangerous for other road users. Any car with brake problems, be it new or old should have been fixed immediately. I feel this complainant is very incompetent in handling the whole situation. And why this car owner did not get Proton to replace the fuel gauge quickly. This driver's mind has more problems than the car.

Did you solve the root of the problem? The Brakes

Please speak for yourself and do not simply bash the car. Many visitor to this thread has too high expectations of the Persona without realising that it is a sub RM60K car which Proton has tried its best to make affordable to all (by offering the different variants) Don't expect the Persona to perform like a RM100K car. For its size & specs., it is still the cheapest around. Why advise some one to buy a higher spec. model if it is beyond their budget? All the technology in the world will not safe a driver with poor driving habits.

I bet you did not keep your distance. That's the problem with drivers nowadays. Driving too close to the car in front & driving with worn out tires. Someone here is comparing an RM72K 1.5cc Toyota Vios J spec. with an RM50K plus 1.6cc Persona. Totally way out of line.

Have been reading this thread for some time & I realized how lucky I am for getting a trouble free Persona M-Line Auto (just wonder how many are like me). My 9mths. (13K Km.) old have been serving me very well on my daily trips between Kepong Baru & USJ 1 & my only qualms are not of my car's but the bad traffic,uneven roads & psycho drivers I come across. Just for everyone's to share with, the only excruciatingly abnormal sound emanating from my car was from the rear foldable seat lock striker which I solved with a DIY tape job myself. As for the air-con. hissing sound, initially there was the sound but its gone for good after a while. Maybe the system needs running-in. That's why, I tell you guys, please do not panic or jump the gun (is that how they say it?)

For my power windows, so far so good. NO ABNORMAL SOUND. I make it a habit to wipe clean the windows every 2 days & run them all daily. I reckon it's worst if you don't run them. And I suppose Proton or anyone else will not tell you to lubricate the areas of the widow glasses that slides against the rubber on the window frames. I have been lubricating my window glasses without fail every two week or so just for precaution. I use he silicon based spray lube. I advise newbies to lubricate their windows because the rubber glass run in new cars have not contracted (due to sun's heat) & is grabing very tightly on the glass thus straining the motor & regulator mechanisms. After a couple of months expose to the elements, the glass will be looser but you still have to lubricate them.

I got my car in Sept. 2009, and I don't see any valve beneath the power steering fluid reservoir/container. And my car miraculously does not have that so-called "klonk" sound at the front suspension. I just wonder why so many of you guy's car have this problem. Maybe the problem was solved by the time I got my car. What else? Quick wearing Front Brake Pads dirtying rims. Small problem. Will change them soon with Korean made Delphi which I have already bought. Rear Drum Brake sound? Came & gone. By the way, I always use my own lubes for my periodic services except the oil filter & the SC here in Kepong has no problem with that because the lube I use happens to be a Proton vendor also, Delphi 10w 40 Semi Syn. I always buy all the service items long before I actually go to the SC. That way, I don't feel that I am spending so much on the car at one go. Any I get those stuff at wholesale. I am in the automotive parts business. So if you guys wish to know Persona part prices, you know where to turn to. I am quite busy but I can help out whenever I can.

Overall, I honestly feel that I made a good buy & should I encounter any future problems there is still the warranty & if that expires, I feel the Persona parts are very affordable compared to imports.

P.S. Please don't bash Proton because you are unlucky. Bash yourself for being poor. Poor in making the decision to buy a Proton. I am poor also but hopefully not unlucky. Cheers!

The extreme UV sun rays that we get in Malaysia or for that matter, this region, is not only bad for Proton cars but all cars. I owned a Nissan prior to the current Persona & believe me, the effects of the sun on a car using imported components is just as bad. Plastic parts of my old Nissan would deform, grey colours turn whitish, black steering column switches turns whitish. Unless your window glasses are super dark tinted, your interior trim parts will deteriorate if exposed to prolonged sun rays. Alternatively, park you car in-doors or under the shade. Pointless to complain about defects if you do not take all the necessary precautions. There is always a price to pay to ensure that you car looks good. Try to park in-doors at all times.

Old story told for the umpteenth time. Can we focus on something more positive like practical enhancements eg. starter switch cylinder light, interior LED lights, good accessory shops, replacement parts etc.

Are your car's rear seats the foldable type? Could be the cushion striker. It has to be insulated.

It's like feeding PEDIGREE to pariah dog. Don't waste your hard earned money. If it's easy money you have, change a better car.

Dude. Do that at your peril. After all, it is your car. But don't expect others to follow your advice. I'm using a reputable Semi 10W 40 & when my ride is nearing the end of the 5K Km cycle, the oil is black as hell & I can feel a significant difference compared to when the oil is new. If you are using Fully Syn, by all means, 10K Km cycle is OK. I feel the service booklet is grossly wrong in the oil change intervals (Should be for fully syn)

If you read the user's manual, Proton recommends 20W 50 (which should be mineral) Try this & your FC will shoot up & it is like riding a buffalo up hill.

For set of two or per piece? Original is RM540.26 each. Quality is a ? Will colour fade fast? Actually original is very stingy on the number of LEDs. Very turn-off by the small number of LEDs. Even a smaller & cheaper Myvi has more LEDs for its Rear lamps. If the colour last, I feel this Non-OE looks better than the OE.

IT'S NOT THE CONDITION OF THE CAR BUT THE ATTITUDE OF THE DRIVER THAT BRINGS HIM OR HER CLOSER TO THE GATES OF HELL!

REMEMBER! IT'S OPENED & WAITING!

Why can't everyone who visits this thread & complains about a Proton accepts the fact that it is a car that is not meant to last. I mean all Proton cars. If the Proton part suppliers or vendors manufactures parts that last forever, that is suicide for them. Same for Proton. From a businessman's point of view, everything is calculated. Even Proton does not want their customers to use their product forever. For the price you are paying, don't expect much. After all, good quality Proton alternative replacement parts are easily available & affordable.

Try owning a new Mazda, Toyota, Honda, Suzuki, Peugeot, Hyundai,Naza, Kia etc. of about the same class, if you don't earn 5K nett/mth. & above don't dream! At least in Proton, a person who say, makes about 3Knett/mth. (assuming HOUSE mortgage=1K, CAR & PETROL=1K) he or she can still survive owning a new car. For what it is worth, the Persona is not bad. My anniversary is up in a month's time & a neighbour recently ask me about the performance of my car. My Reply? No regrets. Highly recommended. That's my honest opinion. I can't hear that from some of you guys. That's unfortunate for those with bad experiences.

POTENTIAL NEW PROTON OWNERS BEWARE! DON' SAY YOU HAVE NOT BEEN WARNED. (& regret later)

For all concerned drivers. Please note that good brake pads are made up of materials that are not too soft nor too hard. Too soft, and they will wear off at the blink of an eye & mess up your rims with black powder. Too hard, the disc is going to wear off in no time. There is a limit to the number of times you can skim them. Disc cost itself is RM257 each. So the ? is, What brand of brake pads are the most ideal in terms of price & usage.

Please bear in mind that the friction materials of brake pads are meant to slow down the vehicle over a certain distance & time and not at once. If you want your vehicle to stop dead the moment you press the brake pedal at high speeds, the vehicle will either skid or flip. Thats why manufacturers of brake pads & shoes are always experimenting with new materials to find the most ideal. It has been mentioned many times before. Stay alert & keep your distance from the vehicle in front & you'll be OK.

By the way. Persona & Gen-2 front pads are the same. I have been running on Delphi pads for more than a week & judging from the appearance of my rims, pad wear is minimal. I can hardly see any black powder. Performance, definitely much better than original.

Quite out of topic. Actually glorifying violence. A disgrace to the Chinese race. Video seems like a poorly scripted movie. Does not make sense. Meaningless stuff like this should not be circulated.

PLEASE STICK TO PROTON STUFF & SPECIFICALLY PERSONA HERE. THERE ARE MANY OTHER PERODUA THREADS IN LYN