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 -+♦+- LYN OFFICIAL PROTON PERSONA THREAD V8 -+♦+-, Our Pride N' Joy

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jasondotcom
post Jun 26 2010, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Jun 26 2010, 09:40 AM)
it is because is driven by wire , old cars driven by cable
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yea i seriously hate drive by wire. never liked it.
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Jun 26 2010, 12:35 PM)
ic...... so who's here pernah try manual maximum speed can go? i saw the meter reading max is 240km/h....

may be 5th gear can reach about 200km/h....  ohmy.gif
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Max speed stated on meter always overrated la.


For those who remembered i complain about a squeak at the rear suspension... I finally narrowed down (DIY) to what is causing it. It is because of the Polyurethane Bump stop squeaking during natural movement of the absorber. I have squirted a bit of Silicone Lubricant spray at the top of it. Squeak is now gone. Case close. thumbup.gif

All you need to do is to jack up the butt, access to the shock absorber dust boot, pry it off its seat, pull it down to reveal the Polyurethane Bump stop. Then squirt some silicone lubricant spray at the top of the bump stop (inside). Plug back the dust boot to its seat and lower the car down.... all done smile.gif .

I highly suggest silicone lubricant gels OR spray rather than the usual WD40. Why? Silicone based lubricants does not deteriorate rubber bushes. And it is more slippery and longer lasting (can see that its still wet after few days).

For those who do not know what does Polyurethane Bump stop looks like....refer below. Note: It comes as stock in most cars. Some are this type as photo and some are rubber types or more less similar designs.

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post Jun 26 2010, 01:15 PM

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Anyone interested to bulk purchase on this thing?

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Price quite OK,
Automotive Garage got ppl selling,
basically is plug and play,
Just the LED need new wiring tap to side signal...
wonder if bulk purchase would get better price or not ... biggrin.gif
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post Jun 26 2010, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Jun 26 2010, 01:15 PM)
Anyone interested to bulk purchase on this thing?

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Price quite OK,
Automotive Garage got ppl selling,
basically is plug and play,
Just the LED need new wiring tap to side signal...
wonder if bulk purchase would get better price or not ...  biggrin.gif
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dunno whats the normal price, i also saw this in Auto Garage sale.
interested but need to install togetehr with electric mirror controller..hehe.


Added on June 26, 2010, 2:47 pm
QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Jun 26 2010, 12:52 PM)

Max speed stated on meter always overrated la.
For those who remembered i complain about a squeak at the rear suspension... I finally narrowed down (DIY) to what is causing it. It is because of the Polyurethane Bump stop squeaking during natural movement of the absorber. I have squirted a bit of Silicone Lubricant spray at the top of it. Squeak is now gone. Case close.  thumbup.gif

All you need to do is to jack up the butt, access to the shock absorber dust boot, pry it off its seat, pull it down to reveal the Polyurethane Bump stop. Then squirt some silicone lubricant spray at the top of the bump stop (inside). Plug back the dust boot to its seat and lower the car down.... all done  smile.gif .

I highly suggest silicone lubricant gels OR spray rather than the usual WD40. Why? Silicone based lubricants does not deteriorate rubber bushes. And it is more slippery and longer lasting (can see that its still wet after few days).

For those who do not know what does Polyurethane Bump stop looks like....refer below. Note: It comes as stock in most cars. Some are this type as photo and some are rubber types or more less similar designs.

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tq for diy info bro.
im also noticed some this squeak sound but dint bother though tongue.gif
but how about 'tak' sound while over the bump.?

feel no mood going to SC. better waiting for next month 35k service....wanna ask about 'klek' 'klek' rattling sound in my front right door. better they give good answers coz last time prob. about my vibrating brake they advice to do balancing but actually the fault is brake pad itself- burnt off already shakehead.gif

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post Jun 26 2010, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(MjMax15 @ Jun 26 2010, 02:39 PM)
dunno whats the normal price, i also saw this in Auto Garage sale.
interested but need to install togetehr with electric mirror controller..hehe.


Added on June 26, 2010, 2:47 pm

tq for diy info bro.
im also noticed some this squeak sound but dint bother though tongue.gif
but how about 'tak' sound while over the bump.?

feel no mood going to SC. better waiting for next month 35k service....wanna ask about 'klek' 'klek' rattling sound in my front right door. better they give good answers coz last time prob. about my vibrating brake they advice to do balancing but actually the fault is brake pad itself- burnt off already shakehead.gif
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Aiya... just go buy ur brake pad urself and change, Trestor Advantage Blue or Bendix Titanium Strip good and cheap.
Only scared ur Disc Rotor wrap only.

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post Jun 26 2010, 04:41 PM

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guys! my friend just got his brand new vios G spec facelife version number plant "WUB 20XX"...
he is so "LC" want to challenge my elegance, from 0 to acceleration and till top speed...
in terms of engine cc and horse power is lower than persona a bit, but on the other hand, the body weight is 200kg lighter than persona and he is using 185 60 15R and persona is using 195 60 15R.
i scare persona will lose due to weight and wide tire drag.

any command on this? just a friendly testing on our car capacity only... but scare that persona will...

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post Jun 26 2010, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(vson @ Jun 26 2010, 04:41 PM)
guys! my friend just got his brand new vios G spec facelife version number plant "WUB 20XX"...
he is so "LC" want to challenge my elegance, from 0 to acceleration and till top speed...
in terms of engine cc and horse power is lower than persona a bit, but on the other hand, the body weight is 200kg lighter than persona and he is using 185 60 15R and persona is using 195 60 15R.
i scare persona will lose due to weight and wide tire drag.

any command on this? just a friendly testing on our car capacity only... but scare that persona will...
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Aiya let him lan si lo.....win u what he will get? Our persona is more on comfort than performance

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Jun 26 2010, 04:24 PM)
Aiya... just go buy ur brake pad urself and change, Trestor Advantage Blue or Bendix Titanium Strip good and cheap.
Only scared ur Disc Rotor wrap only.
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Yup. already done. installed at tyre shop about RM100(front set), forgot the brand. in receipt just serial number only.
im just to tell here that SC insist the problem (vibrating) not from brake. its from balancing..ouch shakehead.gif
im noobie also doubt about it biggrin.gif
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post Jun 26 2010, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Jun 26 2010, 04:48 PM)
Aiya let him lan si lo.....win u what he will get? Our persona is more on comfort than performance
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nope... he is very LC and can't tahan what he says about our car.
he said proton MO HOU YEH... he ask had advise me not to buy Proton and should follow his advise to buy vios...
say proton is like milo tin and no use at all...
i really like this persona elegance model and geram on what he said. well, you might say that it is a childish act. but if elegance win, then it will shut his mouth for good and slap his own face for all the bad commend he said on our car.

if persona really wins, then everyone (including me) will roll our eyes and leave a big hole in between our mouth and say: "wow, proton cars specially the persona really is a car that performs"....
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post Jun 26 2010, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(vson @ Jun 26 2010, 05:48 PM)
nope... he is very LC and can't tahan what he says about our car.
he said proton MO HOU YEH... he ask had advise me not to buy Proton and should follow his advise to buy vios...
say proton is like milo tin and no use at all...
i really like this persona elegance model and geram on what he said. well, you might say that it is a childish act. but if elegance win, then it will shut his mouth for good and slap his own face for all the bad commend he said on our car.

if persona really wins, then everyone (including me) will roll our eyes and leave a big hole in between our mouth and say: "wow, proton cars specially the persona really is a car that performs"....
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lolz... if he dare say proton persona tin milo.. u ask he got weight(timbang) his car.... our car around 1.2tonne.. vios... less than 1 toonne la... u tell he also.. u thought vios GOA body ah?? u try see vios accident picture... many become cola tin.. kemek... no offence
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QUOTE(muslayer @ Jun 26 2010, 09:40 AM)
it is because is driven by wire , old cars driven by cable
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I'm aware of this; I actually read the manual. tongue.gif

But it can't be this bad, can it? Can't Proton adjust the ECU programming or something?
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post Jun 26 2010, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Jun 26 2010, 05:56 PM)
lolz... if he dare say proton persona tin milo.. u ask he got weight(timbang) his car.... our car around 1.2tonne.. vios... less than 1 toonne la... u tell he also.. u thought vios GOA body ah?? u try see vios accident picture... many become cola tin.. kemek... no offence
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had told him that, but he commend that proton is either still have old heavy technology in their cars or don't know how to design cars.
the new cars now a days is design to be as light as possible to maximize the handling and fuel efficiency, he added. he also said that honda city is around 1 ton.

i told him that price is at least 10k more expensive compare to their cars. and he just throw one word: "cheap stuff no good stuff"...

i really geram when he said that...!!! vmad.gif
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QUOTE(vson @ Jun 26 2010, 04:41 PM)
guys! my friend just got his brand new vios G spec facelife version number plant "WUB 20XX"...
he is so "LC" want to challenge my elegance, from 0 to acceleration and till top speed...
in terms of engine cc and horse power is lower than persona a bit, but on the other hand, the body weight is 200kg lighter than persona and he is using 185 60 15R and persona is using 195 60 15R.
i scare persona will lose due to weight and wide tire drag.

any command on this? just a friendly testing on our car capacity only... but scare that persona will...
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ur fren got no position to LC ur car

Vios despite it has better QC than Proton, the spec of it is actually very crappy, not to mention it is in subcompact category, similar to Saga from Proton, while Persona is compact category, which should be compared to Altis and NOT Vios..

if he want to LC u kao kao.. he should buy at least a Civic, or Altis, or Peaugeot 308 Turbo


Added on June 26, 2010, 7:01 pm
QUOTE(vson @ Jun 26 2010, 06:49 PM)
had told him that, but he commend that proton is either still have old heavy technology in their cars or don't know how to design cars.
the new cars now a days is design to be as light as possible to maximize the handling and fuel efficiency, he added. he also said that honda city is around 1 ton.

i told him that price is at least 10k more expensive compare to their cars. and he just throw one word: "cheap stuff no good stuff"...

i really geram when he said that...!!!  vmad.gif
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Vios before tax price is Rm45k nia... he got fooled by the govt lah
Vios is overrated lah, VVTi still considered new technology meh shakehead.gif


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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Jun 26 2010, 05:56 PM)
lolz... if he dare say proton persona tin milo.. u ask he got weight(timbang) his car.... our car around 1.2tonne.. vios... less than 1 toonne la... u tell he also.. u thought vios GOA body ah?? u try see vios accident picture... many become cola tin.. kemek... no offence
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Both auto, i think Persona will lose on pickup due to driven by wire and body heavy, but if go top speed and cornering i think persona will win.
Better replace ur stock brake pad bosch to better one first before try




But if u really want to test please make sure no others car around...can test safely...also cause of this geram i scared will cause some injuries or worst.

Drive safe and smart.

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post Jun 26 2010, 07:03 PM

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one more to add, the Dugong Vios paint quality is definitely inferior than Persona

I can confirm that
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jun 26 2010, 07:00 PM)
ur fren got no position to LC ur car

Vios despite it has better QC than Proton, the spec of it is actually very crappy, not to mention it is in subcompact category, similar to Saga from Proton, while Persona is compact category, which should be compared to Altis and NOT Vios..

if he want to LC u kao kao.. he should buy at least a Civic, or Altis, or Peaugeot 308 Turbo


Added on June 26, 2010, 7:01 pm
Vios before tax price is Rm45k nia... he got fooled by the govt lah
Vios is overrated lah, VVTi still considered new technology meh shakehead.gif
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the new vios interior is very very highclass... skin color leather sits... the sound system is quite good too. i like the way toyota done on the interior.
they even give brigestone potenza 185 60 15R stock tires.
persona to compare with altis? hummm... anyway, i think the upcoming new car that will ganti waja should be the right car to compare hmm.gif
but i totally agree with you on the space available in vios... it is so small, only sightly bigger than madza 2 sedan biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(vson @ Jun 26 2010, 04:41 PM)
guys! my friend just got his brand new vios G spec facelife version number plant "WUB 20XX"...
he is so "LC" want to challenge my elegance, from 0 to acceleration and till top speed...
in terms of engine cc and horse power is lower than persona a bit, but on the other hand, the body weight is 200kg lighter than persona and he is using 185 60 15R and persona is using 195 60 15R.
i scare persona will lose due to weight and wide tire drag.

any command on this? just a friendly testing on our car capacity only... but scare that persona will...
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Dont back down.

I myself pwned a few Vios before.

knot to 60 our Persona might lose because of the torque lag, but top speed and cornering......say bye bye to him.
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QUOTE(vson @ Jun 26 2010, 04:41 PM)
guys! my friend just got his brand new vios G spec facelife version number plant "WUB 20XX"...
he is so "LC" want to challenge my elegance, from 0 to acceleration and till top speed...
in terms of engine cc and horse power is lower than persona a bit, but on the other hand, the body weight is 200kg lighter than persona and he is using 185 60 15R and persona is using 195 60 15R.
i scare persona will lose due to weight and wide tire drag.

any command on this? just a friendly testing on our car capacity only... but scare that persona will...
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Let me help u my friend. Tell your friend either "Jom, Genting downhill" or "Jom, Kuala Kelawang road". You'll see who will left behind flex.gif


I've been driving the new vios for a few times, seriously its cornering ability put the fear in me laugh.gif
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QUOTE(muslayer @ Jun 26 2010, 07:02 PM)
Both auto, i think Persona will lose on pickup due to driven by wire and body heavy, but if go top speed and cornering i think persona will win.
Better replace ur stock brake pad bosch to better one first before try
But if u really want to test please make sure no others car around...can test safely...also cause of this geram i scared will cause some injuries or worst.

Drive safe and smart.
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no worries... just to get the answer only... will only test on very straight road... thought of trying if out on KL-Putrajaya Highway... the road there is quite good and less car compared to others. thanks for the concern... nod.gif

actually i don't quite agree with you on the cornering part... did you notice that car is lack of power when rpm is below 2.8k? normally this is the common driving style for most of the road users. and yet our car's power is not there... i know it will auto lower the gear quickly once you step on the peddle just a bit more, but as the rpm when back to 3k and above to get the power, will clearly notice the engine is roaring and one thing will come in mind "petrol"...

it is the same case happen to Mitsubishi Evo Vlll shown in TOP GEAR if i'm not mistaken, the turbo lack on 3k rpm and below is useless, even a normal Renault normal daily small sedan can out run the evo and when the time evo gets its power on high rpm, they ran out of road...

don't get me wrong, i do like my car very much, just felt that proton still have room to improve on the things that i mention.
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QUOTE(vson @ Jun 26 2010, 07:17 PM)
the new vios interior is very very highclass... skin color leather sits... the sound system is quite good too. i like the way toyota done on the interior.
they even give brigestone potenza 185 60 15R stock tires.
persona to compare with altis? hummm... anyway, i think the upcoming new car that will ganti waja should be the right car to compare  hmm.gif
but i totally agree with you on the space available in vios... it is so small, only sightly bigger than madza 2 sedan  biggrin.gif
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only for G spec or TRD, E spec still use the ciplak fabric cushion

I LOL'ed at the design of the air cond knobs inside dugong Vios, looks like the oven temperature knob only.. whistling.gif

Persona size is comparable to Altis, they both belongs to compact category, despite Persona engine is smaller capacity
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Jun 26 2010, 07:30 PM)
Let me help u my friend. Tell your friend either "Jom, Genting downhill" or "Jom, Kuala Kelawang road". You'll see who will left behind  flex.gif
I've been driving the new vios for a few times, seriously its cornering ability put the fear in me  laugh.gif
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are you using stock tires, as in 195 60 15R?
i'm not comfortable wack corners with those continental tires and size... if 195 55 15R or 195 50 16R even with falken - i will dare...


Added on June 26, 2010, 7:47 pm
QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jun 26 2010, 07:26 PM)
Dont back down.

I myself pwned a few Vios before.

knot to 60 our Persona might lose because of the torque lag, but top speed and cornering......say bye bye to him.
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i never tried testing the car with vios's accelaration at stand still... but i did tail gate vois on roads... not a hard to kiss his butt if i want to...
is our torque rally lag? the blacks and whites written is more that vios?!? mayb our car body is heavy than their's...

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