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post May 25 2010, 07:24 PM, updated 16y ago

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Welcome to V41!!!!!!!!!

Previous thread (V40)>>>HERE<<<
Previous thread (V39)>>>HERE<<<
Previous thread (V38)>>>HERE<<< - thread mysteriously dissapearred shakehead.gif
Previous thread (V37)>>>HERE<<<

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Sony Alpha User List :

A100
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A200
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A300
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A350
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A700
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A900
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New Sony Alpha Line-up Userlist

A230
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A330
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A380
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A500
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A550
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A850
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p.m. me if you wanna add ur name icon_rolleyes.gif

>>>Sony Alpha F.A.Q<<< courtesy of Ahmike

Common Kelvin White Balance Settings :
2500K - very strong orange tungsten light
2800K - strong orange tungsten light
3200K - yellowish tungsten light
4500K M6 - flourescent light (most flourescent tubes are green even though our eyes don't see it)
5500K - flash
6500K - daylight (or daylight-balanced flourescent light)
9900K - strong blue stage lighting or evening light

Xenon lighting is rare but that should be between 7000-9000K.

Whenever you enter a new situation that has different WB, just set your Kelvin WB again and test with one shot. You

should be able to do this with practice.

With the Sony A300 and A350, you can use Live View and see the effect of changing Kelvin WB... live!

M = Magenta
G = Green
2500K = Blue
9900K = Amber

Take a picture. Supposing the picture is very Green, you need to add the opposite which is Magenta. If the picture is

too Blue you need to go closer to Amber. So if the picture is very blue-green-ish, you will need to go closer to 9900K

M9.

To prevent the built-in flash from appearing in pictures when in wireless flash mode, you can use any of these

methods, or a combination of them:

- use a darker aperture (e.g. F11)
- use a lower ISO (e.g. ISO100)
- use a shutter speed faster than your flash sync speed so that High Speed Sync is activated (e.g. 1/320th of a

second)
- use a piece of exposed, developed negative film in front of your pop-up flash

Sony Alpha Lens Line-up : HERE courtesy of vcxv

Below are the official additional accessories* that comes with respective Sony Alpha camera :

Flash hotshoe cover (Sony FASHC1AM) - A100, A700, A900
Remote Commander clip - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700, A900
Eyepiece cover / flash hotshoe cover holder - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700
Cheap Sony neckstrap vmad.gif - A200, A300, A350
Good Sony neckstrap - A100, A700, A900
Wireless Infrared Remote Control - A700, A900

* list provided by albnok

Sony Alpha Support Page and Alpha User Manuals :

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How to clean your Alpha sensor by albnok :



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post May 25 2010, 07:25 PM

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as usual, Alpha users who wants the userbar..

Imageshack was unable to recover A200, A300, A350 & A700 userbars and as a result, new userbars were uploaded.. Those using the userbar, please update your URL.. icon_rolleyes.gif

A100 : image url : http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2687/alpha100cb9.png

A200 : user posted image
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A300 : user posted image
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A350 : user posted image
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A700 : user posted image
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A900 : user posted image
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New Alpha line-up userbar

A230 : user posted image
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A330 : user posted image
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A380 : user posted image
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A550 : user posted image
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A850 : user posted image
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Some useful link :

Tamron/Sigma/Sony/Minolta 70-200mm F2.8 Shootout
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1243

Ultra Wide Comparison
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1324
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Alpha street pricelist ***updated 30th April 2010***

Camera
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Sony A230 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM14xx
Sony A330 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM18xx
Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM20xx
Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM24xx
Sony A700 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM33xx
Sony A550 body only = RM21xx
Sony A500 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM31xx
Sony A550 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM24xx
Sony A550 + 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM40xx
Sony A850 body only = RM61xx
Sony A900 body only = RM73xx (Studio Zaloon)

The following suffixes identify what lens comes with the camera body:

G = Sony 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DT
K = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT
L = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM
P = Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT
Q = Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM
W = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6
X = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT
Y = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT (2) SAM
Z = Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA


Battery Grip
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Sony VG-B30AM for A200/A300/A350 = RM6xx
Sony VG-C70AM battery grip for A700 = RM9xx
Sony VG-C90AM for A900 = RM9xx

Flash
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Sony HVL-F20AM = RM4xx
Sony HVL-F42AM = RM7xx
Sony HVL-F58AM = RM11xx

Sony/Minolta Used Lenses
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Minolta 28mm F2.8 = RM450-600
Minolta 35-70 F4 (mini beercan) = RM250-400
Minolta 50mm F1.4 = RM750-850
Minolta 50mm F1.7 = RM450-600
Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT = RM450-550
Minolta 70-210mm F4 (beercan) = RM750-1100
Minolta 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 (big beercan) = RM1000-1500
Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 = RM450-550

New APS-C / DT Crop Lenses
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Sony 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 DT = RM20xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA = RM25xx
Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM16xx
Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM16xx
Sony 30mm F2.8 DT SAM Macro = RM7xx (NEW)
Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM5xx
Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM Macro = RM30xx

New Full-Frame Lenses
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Sony 16mm F2.8 Diagonal Fisheye = RM25xx
Sony 20mm F2.8 = RM19xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 24-70mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx
Sony 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 = RM18xx
Sony 28mm F2.8 = RM8xx
Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM = RM26xx (NEW)
Sony 35mm F1.4G = RM45xx
Sony 50mm F1.4 = RM10xx
Sony 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM14xx
Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 Macro = RM30xx
Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro = RM38xx
Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM = RM54xx
Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM = RM25xx
Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM = RM54xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA = RM50xx
Sony 100mm F2.8 Macro = RM23xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA = RM48xx
Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus = RM36xx
Sony 500mm F8.0 AF Reflex = RM25xx
Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM = RM20xxx
Sony 1.4x Teleconverter = RM15xx
Sony 2.0x Teleconverter = RM15xx
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Nice finally new thread!

Mikeshashimi : No worries la. I guess the Phottix battery jsut can't take HSM. Hahaha. Should be alright for another 100+ shots kua.
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@cassplayer
later ppl send u vacation ar~ forget last thread already??

do you guy cover an indoor event by just using the pop-up flash?? (because last weekend i saw someone from N brand and C brand photog cover event with kitty + pop up flash at klang parade)

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QUOTE(cassplayer @ May 25 2010, 07:24 PM)
Actually, looking at the picture again, it's nice, I just realised what's missing (for me though) tongue.gif

The sun shining onto the clouds, if there's more golden/yellow clouds then it would be much nicer biggrin.gif
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that time no any sun yet la... sweat.gif ...stil very early..
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post May 25 2010, 07:54 PM

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Is it too saturated?
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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ May 25 2010, 07:54 PM)
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Is it too saturated?
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nice... smile.gif ...stil ok..
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post May 25 2010, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ May 25 2010, 07:54 PM)
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I think is okay .... colors looks fine on two of my monitors

and yeah a new thread!!
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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ May 25 2010, 07:54 PM)
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Is it too saturated?
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it's nice, golden brown smile.gif
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 25 2010, 07:29 PM)
Nice finally new thread!

Mikeshashimi : No worries la. I guess the Phottix battery jsut can't take HSM. Hahaha. Should be alright for another 100+ shots kua.
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haha. ok cool bro. anything just let me know. smile.gif
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Hi, everyone here using Crumpler Karachi Outpost? any comment? thanks smile.gif
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post May 25 2010, 08:35 PM

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haih sifu still poisoning fisheye. Long neck dy waiting for my side job to pay. Once got definitely call you laugh.gif
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post May 25 2010, 08:52 PM

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so much fish eye poison..sweat.gif
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QUOTE(aqiera @ May 25 2010, 08:38 PM)
let me join you guys... biggrin.gif
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how's the camera position?
u stand or sit?
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I do not have fisheye to posion u guys but very nice photos, aqiera and cjlai

for a very long time i din post pic here...just to share my excitement with all the alpha bro and sis here.

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mod, if u feel that this pic have some 18SX element, feel free to delete it...

This post has been edited by ahtsong: May 25 2010, 09:27 PM
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congrats ahtsong rclxms.gif
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ahtsong : No nothing 18SX about that, it's a beautiful sight! XD

mastering89 : You sure the Crumpler "7MDH" you saw at digital mall is for RM220?
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congrats!!! hope u will have a healthy baby.=)


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lwliam, Moo, cjlai, zstan: thanks...

zstan: yup, healthy is more important than anything for a new born BB now-a-day, too much virus/disease floating around.
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Kul | Mo0 : sure 100%,also crumpler 5mdh for rm199 (1st floor beside elevator) sweat.gif
color got blue and black. I'm not sure ori or not, but looks ok ok sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ahtsong @ May 25 2010, 09:45 PM)
lwliam, Moo, cjlai, zstan: thanks...

zstan: yup, healthy is more important than anything for a new born BB now-a-day, too much virus/disease floating around.
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make sure give ur wife eat more nutritious food..

dun kedekut. laugh.gif ..oops..a bit off topic here...><
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QUOTE(ahtsong @ May 25 2010, 09:26 PM)
I do not have fisheye to posion u guys but very nice photos, aqiera and cjlai

for a very long time i din post pic here...just to share my excitement with all the alpha bro and sis here.

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mod, if u feel that this pic have some 18SX element, feel free to delete it...
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Nothing explicit, just that the burnt skin tone on the right isn't that appealing.
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 25 2010, 09:48 PM)
make sure give ur wife eat more nutritious food..

dun kedekut. laugh.gif ..oops..a bit off topic here...><
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haha, from the day we know, until the day she deliver + confinement , estimated easily > A900 + CZ2470 + CZ1635


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QUOTE(ahtsong @ May 25 2010, 09:52 PM)
haha, from the day we know, until the day she deliver + confinement , estimated easily > A900 + CZ2470 + CZ1635
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ouch...

maybe u can share how u feel with ier..he also sacrificed a G lens for a diamond ring... laugh.gif
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mastering89 : Wow. Thanks. The "5MDH" is the single buckle or double buckle?
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mastering89 : Most likely lo. Not sure. Cause last time I saw, it's "Senven Million Dollar Home". Hahaha will check it out tomorrow. (:
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QUOTE(ahtsong @ May 25 2010, 09:26 PM)
I do not have fisheye to posion u guys but very nice photos, aqiera and cjlai

for a very long time i din post pic here...just to share my excitement with all the alpha bro and sis here.

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mod, if u feel that this pic have some 18SX element, feel free to delete it...
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wow, 9/10 points!

u did PP or straight out from camera?


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ouch...

maybe u can share how u feel with ier..he also sacrificed a G lens for a diamond ring...  laugh.gif
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hahaha, worth it! anyhow, i never liked sony's version of 70200 F2.8 G, its old design and tamron easily beat it with IQ (except for the speed)... but tamron also hidding the new 70200 USD... so it might beat the SAL70200G if sony do not plan to revise the unit. but rumoured sony/Alpha will have A LOT new lenses in photokina ^^ A and E mount


i see that vikingw2k is not a big fan of highlights... so next time i avoid posting pic with highlight, later he complain heheh laugh.gif laugh.gif

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wow, 9/10 points!

u did PP or straight out from camera?
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resize, crop, + pp on the face a bit to remove those pimples. No major PP

taken using a A700 remote without tripod (forgot to bring, just use 2 object to hold my A700 in vertical position) using 50mm 1.4, no flash fire, sun light from the window on the right thus color burn on my leg


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u set the metering to overexpose or PP the level?

i mean the reason why is it so bright... but its really a nice vibe to it! biggrin.gif u make me wan fast fast get married and take pic like those tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ieR @ May 25 2010, 10:18 PM)

i see that vikingw2k is not a big fan of highlights... so next time i avoid posting pic with highlight, later he complain heheh  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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I see that you still can't differentiate between high key shots and distracting burnt skin tone shots. smile.gif

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QUOTE(ahtsong @ May 25 2010, 10:23 PM)
resize, crop, + pp on the face a bit to remove those pimples. No major PP

taken using a A700 remote without tripod (forgot to bring, just use 2 object to hold my A700 in vertical position) using 50mm 1.4, no flash fire, sun light from the window on the right thus color burn on my leg
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^ its okay..
sometimes a beautiful pic is defined by 'the moment'..
no EXIF can challenge that.. overburn, pverexposed, bad compo, unsharp, etc.. doesnt stand a chance against a pic with story..
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QUOTE(freddy manson @ May 25 2010, 10:29 PM)
^ its okay..
sometimes a beautiful pic is defined by 'the moment'..
no EXIF can challenge that.. overburn, pverexposed, bad compo, unsharp, etc.. doesnt stand a chance against a pic with story..
I would say, composition is important, so does the overall photo elements e.g. exposure, sharpness, color. If you think capturing moments alone would suffice, you might as well just capture moments with Nokia phones. Reason why people upgrade to DSLR? Simple, better color, better sharpness, better exposure and metering, so why discard all these? smile.gif

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QUOTE(ieR @ May 25 2010, 10:27 PM)
u set the metering to overexpose or PP the level?

i mean the reason why is it so bright... but its really a nice vibe to it! biggrin.gif u make me wan fast fast get married and take pic like those tongue.gif
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spot metering on face...with EV + 1, ISO 400, f2.8, 1/3sec thus make it bright
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AHh ***** from Shrek~! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 25 2010, 10:28 PM)
I see that you still can't differentiate between high key shots and distracting burnt skin tone shots. smile.gif
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its just a taste of photography, no wrong or right.

btw, i said highlight, not highkey* =.= they are different thing. and i do know them.

if u wish it, then, 'vikingw2k dont like distracting burnt skin tone shots' tongue.gif so i better avoid those, muahahaha laugh.gif laugh.gif
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AHh ***** from Shrek~!  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ahtsong @ May 25 2010, 10:32 PM)
spot metering on face...with EV + 1, ISO 400, f2.8, 1/3sec thus make it bright
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QUOTE(ieR @ May 25 2010, 10:34 PM)
its just a taste of photography, no wrong or right.

btw, i said highlight, not highkey* =.= they are different thing. and i do know them.

if u wish it, then, 'vikingw2k dont like distracting burnt skin tone shots' tongue.gif so i better avoid those, muahahaha  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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It'll be even nicer if you could rephrase it "ieR doesn't know how to differentiate burnt skin tone shots and nice highlight or whatever, so ieR better avoid these tills ieR could differentiate better in future."

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QUOTE(ieR @ May 25 2010, 10:34 PM)
good shoot! biggrin.gif
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thanks...ya i like it to be bright thus use that setting
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whoa..

i see things are getting heated up...

my pics totally kena ignore....much more improvements to do..laugh.gif
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ier & vikingw2k : Chill la wei. What's with all the sarcasm? XD
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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ May 25 2010, 10:34 PM)
?? I din watch shrek..so i dunno bout the character lolz smile.gif
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Woahhahaha the word "P u S s Y " got Sensored~??? basically is a cat like this..same colour... cool caracther.... become fat in the latest episode.
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 25 2010, 10:38 PM)
ier & vikingw2k : Chill la wei. What's with all the sarcasm? XD
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No idea, perhaps someone took it too personal when I'm commenting on ahtsong's shot. No offense ahtsong, but the burnt skin tone is the very first thing that comes into my mind. Second thing is the leg being cut off. My sincere comment smile.gif

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oh..haha...lolz..it is a censored word la..

btw, no comments on my shot? lolz...
same like u la zstan..i need to improve so that ppl will notice my pics...
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 25 2010, 10:38 PM)
ier & vikingw2k : Chill la wei. What's with all the sarcasm? XD
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the expression of the cat very good! rclxms.gif

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c'mon la, he just wanted to share his happiness with all of us here, and you all go and make a ruckus out of it.... *shame on you, tsk tsk tsk* laugh.gif
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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ May 25 2010, 10:40 PM)
oh..haha...lolz..it is a censored word la..

btw, no comments on my shot? lolz...
same like u la zstan..i need to improve so that ppl will notice my pics...
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 25 2010, 10:36 PM)
It'll be even nicer if you could rephrase it "ieR doesn't know how to differentiate burnt skin tone shots and nice highlight or whatever, so ieR better avoid these tills ieR could differentiate better in future."

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wakao >.< why u so mean... user posted image
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haha...thanks zstan..

when i took that shot, i sit down on the road with the cat..
and my mother was like ' are u nuts? sitting with the cat under hot sun? '

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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ May 25 2010, 10:40 PM)
oh..haha...lolz..it is a censored word la..

btw, no comments on my shot? lolz...
same like u la zstan..i need to improve so that ppl will notice my pics...
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Not much I can comment.. a very basic shot... not much story behind the photos.. what i will like to comment is about ur Watermark... it will spoil even the best photos taken.. n why is it being cropped.... Try make it a little simpler i think will help.
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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ May 25 2010, 10:43 PM)
haha...thanks zstan..

when i took that shot, i sit down on the road with the cat..
and my mother was like ' are u nuts? sitting with the cat under hot sun? '
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good shot come from a patient photographer....keep it up
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QUOTE(clivengu @ May 25 2010, 10:43 PM)
Not much I can comment.. a very basic shot... not much story behind the photos.. what i will like to comment is about ur Watermark... it will spoil even the best photos taken.. n why is it being cropped.... Try make it a little simpler i think will help.
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the photo is not cropped...
or are u talking bout the watermark?
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QUOTE(clivengu @ May 25 2010, 10:43 PM)
Not much I can comment.. a very basic shot... not much story behind the photos.. what i will like to comment is about ur Watermark... it will spoil even the best photos taken.. n why is it being cropped.... Try make it a little simpler i think will help.
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"a very basic shot" is also a comment ma. laugh.gif

hmmm..so i should make my water mark more simpler?

being cropped?u mean my pictures? didn't crop lea. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lwliam @ May 25 2010, 10:41 PM)
c'mon la, he just wanted to share his happiness with all of us here, and you all go and make a ruckus out of it.... *shame on you, tsk tsk tsk* laugh.gif
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Does that mean that one is not allowed to give genuine comments just because someone is sharing his happiness? Emotions at door please. This is a photography forum. I believe you guys are mature enough on how to differentiate genuine comments rather than getting emotional over one's comment. smile.gif
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 25 2010, 10:40 PM)
No idea, perhaps someone took it too personal when I'm commenting on ahtsong's shot. No offense ahtsong, but the burnt skin tone is the very first thing that comes into my mind. Second thing is the leg being cut off. My sincere comment smile.gif
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lol, no la.. coz last time, u comment several ppl picture problem due to the highlight... so i just quote only =.= it seem u straight fire back (it also seem u fire almost anyone the same way)

i see that 'user' do not know how to diff 'issue1' and 'issue2'... isnt that rude too? sad.gif as if u are master, other are useless ppl
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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ May 25 2010, 10:43 PM)
haha...thanks zstan..

when i took that shot, i sit down on the road with the cat..
and my mother was like ' are u nuts? sitting with the cat under hot sun? '
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ur cat is it? good patience laugh.gif
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chill guys...
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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ May 25 2010, 10:44 PM)
the photo is not cropped...
or are u talking bout the watermark?
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my watermark cropped? i dun understand. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(ieR @ May 25 2010, 10:42 PM)
wakao >.< why u so mean... user posted image
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Alright, let's discard it and back to photography. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 25 2010, 10:45 PM)
shocking.gif

ur cat is it? good patience laugh.gif
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it's not my cat...it's a wild cat at the lorong behind my house
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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ May 25 2010, 10:48 PM)
it's not my cat...it's a wild cat at the lorong behind my house
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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ May 25 2010, 10:44 PM)
the photo is not cropped...
or are u talking bout the watermark?
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 25 2010, 10:45 PM)
"a very basic shot" is also a comment ma. laugh.gif

hmmm..so i should make my water mark more simpler?

being cropped?u mean my pictures? didn't crop lea. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 25 2010, 10:46 PM)
my watermark cropped? i dun understand. rclxub.gif
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Ahahha.. sorry got a bit confused here.. i am comment on D3rkholeang3l cat shot... the watermark seems a bit cropped at the side. Zstann don panic not toking bout u sweat.gif
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@zstan : here's one more...this is just a normal shot in my opinion...haha

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P/S : cat oso wanna jadi model ma...

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QUOTE(ieR @ May 25 2010, 10:45 PM)
lol, no la.. coz last time, u comment several ppl picture problem due to the highlight... so i just quote only =.= it seem u straight fire back (it also seem u fire almost anyone the same way)

i see that 'user' do not know how to diff 'issue1' and 'issue2'... isnt that rude too? sad.gif as if u are master, other are useless ppl
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ah, let's not quote my previous comments and mix up with coming ones. I comment based on what I see now. Nothing related to previous or what and I don't see anything wrong giving genuine comments on what I feel. Yes, you may counter me should you have different opinions, but in a more constructive way and not telling me stuff like "hey, people sharing happiness" or worse going too personal. Doesn't that sound as if I can't comment just because someone is sharing his happy shots? I believe everyone has their right to voice their personal opinion in this photography forum as long it's appropriate. smile.gif

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hahahha, ahtsong, feel sorry for u wehh.. ppl are just too cruel here... maternity shots dont come along often, do try to shoot more when there's an opportunity.
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"hey, people sharing happiness" i didnt say that >.< u mistaken me for someone's quote issit???


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Alright, let's discard it and back to photography. tongue.gif
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:yawning: wah so fast isee belum habis taip oredy got popup saying 4 new posts since last visit ha ha.. a good (and hofefully settling already) argument is going on?

anyway, the cat pics.. there's no such thing as a 'normal' shot..
coz i dont know how to define a normal shot..
okay, tell me, what's a normal shot then?

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lwliam, ieR: this is a public, we have no right to stop anyone posting here, but we have the right to ignore...
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QUOTE(lwliam @ May 25 2010, 10:53 PM)
hahahha, ahtsong, feel sorry for u wehh.. ppl are just too cruel here... maternity shots dont come along often, do try to shoot more when there's an opportunity.
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I feet even worse that someone couldn't differentiate sharing emotions and commenting on photography elements.

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"hey, people sharing happiness"  i didnt say that >.< u mistaken me for someone's quote issit???
Nah, I was quoting you and moo together. Anyway let's not drag this further shall we? I had left my comments, whether one is able to accept it openly or take it emotional it's up to you guys. When people don't comment, people complaint. When people leave genuine comments, people still complained. Funny isn't it? smile.gif

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@ freddy manson : well, may it's just me... a normal shot for me is like, a picture that dont show a story when ppl sees it... the story is indirect perhaps?
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normal la... mouth ppl's one >.< but i scare u angry me for misunderstanding ma... tongue.gif but if i really offend u, i seriously dont mean it, i'll apology if i have to. we all kaki photo, sharing is caring ma tongue.gif
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dark hole angel, what lens u're using for those cat shots?
seems like the bokeh is nicer than kitlens (im not assuming ur using kitlens, hence the question)
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QUOTE(ieR @ May 25 2010, 11:02 PM)
normal la... mouth ppl's one >.< but i scare u angry me for misunderstanding ma... tongue.gif but if i really offend u, i seriously dont mean it, i'll apology if i have to. we all kaki photo, sharing is caring ma tongue.gif
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Non taken mate. I knew you were just kidding that's why I just fooled around with you but seems like others are taking it too serious about this so called heat. Come on guys, it's just a genuine comment from me. Take it or leave it. Don't make yourself sad just because you can't accept others comment. cheers.gif
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QUOTE(lwliam @ May 25 2010, 10:53 PM)
hahahha, ahtsong, feel sorry for u wehh.. ppl are just too cruel here... maternity shots dont come along often, do try to shoot more when there's an opportunity.
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QUOTE(ieR @ May 25 2010, 11:02 PM)
normal la... mouth ppl's one >.< but i scare u angry me for misunderstanding ma... tongue.gif but if i really offend u, i seriously dont mean it, i'll apology if i have to. we all kaki photo, sharing is caring ma tongue.gif
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no worry bro...i won be angry, but use to it since Sony Alpha Thread still < version 10.....
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QUOTE(freddy manson @ May 25 2010, 10:56 PM)
:yawning: wah so fast isee belum habis taip oredy got popup saying 4 new posts since last visit ha ha.. a good (and hofefully settling already) argument is going on?

anyway, the cat pics.. there's no such thing as a 'normal' shot..
coz i dont know how to define a normal shot..
okay, tell me, what's a normal shot then?
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haha, let's put it this way, why ppl say normal shoot.... or why (sorry i need to quote u zstan) like zstan's photo of the marina bay seem no ump... ppl call it tourist photo, or PNS photo.

if u given a PNS, (okay with 10x zoom) can u replicate that picture(the cat)? if can, then... understand lor.

ppl with DSLR, ppl have high expectation to 'blow' others away. ppl expect angle never seen before, proper composition, special color or light effect cant be capture by PNS. hence... the so called 'normal photo' biggrin.gif
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@ freddy: lol...do u need to break my name into 3 piece? haha

it's not kitlens, i m using 75-300
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its puteri harbour...marina bay at singapore.. laugh.gif
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@ier : ya...i feel the angle is not so nice... that's y it's a normal photo to me

maybe after using dslr, my judgement on photos changed
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zstan, if u can shoot some yacht from low angle, it makes the yacht look really big, that is what ppl expect to see, a change of perspective. get it? sometimes, we know everyone will use as wide as possible to capture what u saw (to let ppl know what did u saw) .... sometimes, going tight (zoom on single subject) is much better because its not 'common' shot, hence it has diff value.
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i only got one shot of this.. then the cat gone with the wind.. paiseh

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QUOTE(ieR @ May 25 2010, 11:11 PM)
zstan, if u can shoot some yacht from low angle, it makes the yacht look really big, that is what ppl expect to see, a change of perspective. get it? sometimes, we know everyone will use as wide as possible to capture what u saw (to let ppl know what did u saw) .... sometimes, going tight (zoom on single subject) is much better because its not 'common' shot, hence it has diff value.
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speaking of that..

that was my super heart break for that day...

visitors are not allowed to go near the yacht!! mad.gif

hence i my only option is to shoot from far..and producing tourist shots..haha
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QUOTE(ieR @ May 25 2010, 11:05 PM)
haha, let's put it this way, why ppl say normal shoot.... or why (sorry i need to quote u zstan) like zstan's photo of the marina bay seem no ump... ppl call it tourist photo, or PNS photo.

if u given a PNS, (okay with 10x zoom) can u replicate that picture(the cat)? if can, then... understand lor.

ppl with DSLR, ppl have high expectation to 'blow' others away. ppl expect angle never seen before, proper composition, special color or light effect cant be capture by PNS. hence... the so called 'normal photo' biggrin.gif
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oh.. really..
the same like when people see Perodua Kancil and Mira side by side..
the expectation is more towards the 'bigger' brother.. (bigger as in more capacity, etc etc)
icon_rolleyes.gif tourist photo is a new term i learnt today..

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@ freddy: lol...do u need to break my name into 3 piece? haha

it's not kitlens, i m using 75-300
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break ur names la easier for me to say it (not speel it, say it.. heck.. even u guys cant hear it tongue.gif)
oh that's y ur angle a bit 'restrained'?
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8tvt: the cat's fur colour looks nice (not the usual orange tabby), but the background abit distracting. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 25 2010, 11:18 PM)
8tvt: the cat's fur colour looks nice (not the usual orange tabby), but the background abit distracting.  smile.gif
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that's why background failed.. blush.gif
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@ freddy : couldnt bend much...the tar road was hot...lolz

btw, any alpharian from melaka? wanna join shooting?
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 25 2010, 11:14 PM)
speaking of that..

that was my super heart break for that day...

visitors are not allowed to go near the yacht!! mad.gif

hence i my only option is to shoot from far..and producing tourist shots..haha
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in those situations, you could use a tele lens to crop into the scene. pick out details. try to refrain from instinctively raising the camera and pressing the button the moment u see something nice. look for angle, perspective, background, details, lighting, shadows. there are a lot of aspects to look at in a scene and the combination on lens used.
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Try shooting close up? Some of my attempt on stray pwuhsee that I met along my outing journey. You gotta be careful on ya background.

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vikingw2k : Wa your 2nd shot. Please share the EXIF. Should be quite "high tech".
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wow, the bokeh ! poisonous...

will try to do close up shots if got chance next time...
thanks for the guidance viking
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then jalan² i took this..

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captured with 55-200
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in those situations, you could use a tele lens to crop into the scene. pick out details. try to refrain from instinctively raising the camera and pressing the button the moment u see something nice. look for angle, perspective, background, details, lighting, shadows. there are a lot of aspects to look at in a scene and the combination on lens used.
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if only i brought all my gear there bro..went there to work not to shoot scenary...... cry.gif

i was only equipped with a canon 450D + 18-55mm kit..nothing more....can't do much when the yacht is 100meters away from me and i am on quite high ground...settings wise i still have much work to do... laugh.gif


i will follow ur advise when i have everything with me..... .thanks. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 25 2010, 11:14 PM)
i only got one shot of this.. then the cat gone with the wind.. paiseh

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I think this shot is quite good.. I will prefer to crop it tighter..so can see d detail of its eyes n fur and mayb just get rid of the colour distraction at the backround. then the overall colour wiill very nice.. thumbup.gif
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oh, too bad then wink.gif still not adept to the 450D's controls?
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 25 2010, 11:23 PM)
d4rkholeang3l

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Nice shot.. I notice there is another black kitten behind??
all d cats photos are coming out~~ haha there is once all doggies... too bad im not really fan of kitty and i don shoot the meow..
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 25 2010, 11:25 PM)
vikingw2k : Wa your 2nd shot. Please share the EXIF. Should be quite "high tech".
Nothing high tech la. Just snapped with 24mm at about 10-20cms away from the pwuhsee. Didn't bother to blast the flash to not frighten the black kitten behind.

QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ May 25 2010, 11:25 PM)
wow, the bokeh ! poisonous...

will try to do close up shots if got chance next time...
thanks for the guidance viking
Also, try to get to the same eye level to the cat instead of shooting top down. I was lying flat on the floor aka commando crawling style when I was taking the 2nd pwuhsee shot. smile.gif
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24L? ZOMG. Not high tech some more? What body? ISO?
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QUOTE(lwliam @ May 25 2010, 11:29 PM)
oh, too bad then wink.gif still not adept to the 450D's controls?
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haha....

iso, aperture and shutter ok..

but the WB..already fixed..5500K means 5500K...in a300..still can custom set a bit...eg. for sunny..still can +3 or -3...erm hope u get what i mean..dont really know how to put it in words.haha..the a300 more user friendly then correct la! laugh.gif

and the shooting mode..also all fixed..unlike a300..still can custom adjust even in vivid/potrait mode..very simple..the 450D wan adjust need go through quite a hassle... rclxub.gif so when i wanted to shoot the skies...want make it a bit more saturated...need go through all those menus..under super hot sun some more..can't even see the LCD screen properly...very frustrating...@@

but i think u play 450D before i dun think i need to explain more.. rolleyes.gif



conclusion: i won leave my a300 anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! unless really no choice. sweat.gif


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QUOTE(ieR @ May 25 2010, 11:31 PM)
zstan, not scolding u oh, but, when u have limited gear, its up to one's creativity to push their limit to create master piece. smile.gif u can do it one. if u are given 2nd chance to go back there, now, how will u shoot this time? ^^
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 25 2010, 11:40 PM)
haha....

iso, aperture and shutter ok..

but the WB..already fixed..5500K means 5500K...in a300..still can custom set a bit...eg. for sunny..still can +3 or -3...erm hope u get what i mean..dont really know how to put it in words.haha..the a300 more user friendly then correct la! laugh.gif

and the shooting mode..also all fixed..unlike a300..still can custom adjust even in vivid/potrait mode..very simple..the 450D wan adjust need go through quite a hassle... rclxub.gif so when i wanted to shoot the skies...want make it a bit more saturated...need go through all those menus..under super hot sun some more..can't even see the LCD screen properly...very frustrating...@@

but i think u play 450D before i dun think i need to explain more.. rolleyes.gif
conclusion: i won leave my a300 anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! unless really no choice. sweat.gif


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i will point my gun(if i have one) to the security guard and ask him let me in the yacht area. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ahtsong @ May 25 2010, 11:43 PM)
ya...there is no custom WB in 450D, and the user friendly menu in alpha bring me in this family (i was once consider 450D and A350)
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and the 450D is toooo small for my liking...


and the AF point...omg..if i want to set..i need to press one tiny button at the corner first..before i could manually set my AF point... doh.gif


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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 25 2010, 11:26 PM)
then jalan² i took this..

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Good attempt but I was thinking you might want to change the orientation to portrait and use a lower aperture to get sharper image as I notice it's a tad soft there. I have something similar to yours taken years back to show how it'll look on portrait orientation though the composition might not look nice. Hope it helps.

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QUOTE(clivengu @ May 25 2010, 11:31 PM)
Nice shot.. I notice there is another black kitten behind??
all d cats photos are coming out~~ haha  there is once all doggies... too bad im not really fan of kitty and i don shoot the meow..
Thanks for the compliment and sharp eyes you have there. There's a black kitten behind drinking milk. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 25 2010, 11:38 PM)
24L? ZOMG. Not high tech some more? What body? ISO?
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 25 2010, 11:51 PM)
vikingw2k : Compo not problem la. Crap. Favourite Canon lens on favourite Canon body. XD
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Anyway here's another plant shot with 100mm.

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d4rkholeang3l - Bring your sales discussion off from this thread. Thanks.

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sorry viking... promise you wont do it again...
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vikingw2k: is ur sensor dirty ah? coz i noticed some dust in the last pic.... just asking only, dont fire me, sweat.gif ur pic all so damn sharp. rclxms.gif and is that a spider on the flower?
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 26 2010, 12:06 AM)
vikingw2k: is ur sensor dirty ah? coz i noticed some dust in the last pic.... just asking only, dont fire me,  sweat.gif  ur pic all so damn sharp.  rclxms.gif and is that a spider on the flower?
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 25 2010, 11:48 PM)
Good attempt but I was thinking you might want to change the orientation to portrait and use a lower aperture to get sharper image as I notice it's a tad soft there. I have something similar to yours taken years back to show how it'll look on portrait orientation though the composition might not look nice. Hope it helps.

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ok will try change the orientation accordingly..
the flower i took all in the same level and very close to each others.. so just picked the outstanding one..
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 26 2010, 12:23 AM)
1 of my well taken sunset pics IMO...hope this not consider tourist shot.. sweat.gif
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ok will try change the orientation accordingly..
the flower i took all in the same level and very close to each others.. so just picked the outstanding one..
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If you want to focus on the outstanding one, try to frame it using rule of 3rd. Something like this

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1 of my well taken sunset pics IMO...hope this not consider tourist shot.. sweat.gif
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Now is this something. Nice shot there. smile.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 26 2010, 12:23 AM)
1 of my well taken sunset pics IMO...hope this not consider tourist shot.. sweat.gif
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nice reflection bah that.. hehe call it whatever but that a nice photo (pic) IMHO...
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wa....thanks!!! finally got one pic can satisfy sifu liao. laugh.gif notworthy.gif


p/s: actually the sea was littered with debris..took some time clearing it out...anybody can help clear the one of the sun's reflection? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 26 2010, 12:23 AM)
1 of my well taken sunset pics IMO...hope this not consider tourist shot.. sweat.gif
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awesome shot... IMHO, it will look better in panorama and the watermark is abit distracting...
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wa....thanks!!! finally got one pic can satisfy sifu liao. laugh.gif notworthy.gif
p/s: actually the sea was littered with debris..took some time clearing it out...anybody can help clear the one of the sun's reflection? sweat.gif
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Nah, I ain't any sifu. Still on the learning curve. No doubt that shot is really nice. biggrin.gif
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tqtq...!!hmm...still 0 knowledge on panorama..paiseh..

okay got more motivation take better pics liao!XD
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lencent ^ i rarely perasan the watermark he he he..
if it's the title then i take count la..
but if watermark then i wont comment the watermark

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zstan : Nice shot! Love the smooth water + reflections.
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lencent ^ i rarely perasan the watermark he he he..
if it's the title then i take count la..
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 26 2010, 12:23 AM)
1 of my well taken sunset pics IMO...hope this not consider tourist shot.. sweat.gif
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this shot is excellent! now this will be your benchmark, go shoot something that can better this thumbup.gif

don't have to remove the one on sun's reflection...

i love the pastel colors

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zstan : Nice shot! Love the smooth water + reflections.
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thanks thanks...took this at the back of my house in my kampung... brows.gif
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Darn Streamyx died just when I wanted to post part 2.

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There was also a mock Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 OSS (Active).

Both the NEX-3 and NEX-5 feel surprisingly natural in hand, like the Samsung NX10, GF1 etc. Nothing at all like the A230/A330/A380. The magnesium alloy body of the NEX-5 feels a heck lot more solid than the non-magnesium alloy bodies, which creak when heavy lenses are mounted!

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It is sized like an 85mm F1.4 but with the hulking look of the Zeiss 16-35mm/24-70mm/135mm.

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Left: Sony Alpha NEX-5 with LA-EA1 lens adapter; obviously the A-mount is wider than the E-mount, as you can see the Sony E 16mm F2.8 (and VCL-ECF1 fisheye converter) on it.

Top-right: The underside of the VCL-ECF1 fisheye converter; it has a bayonet mount and clicks on snugly to the Sony E 16mm F2.8's bayonet front. I forgot to try putting a 49mm filter on the 16mm to see if the VCL-ECF1 fisheye converter could still mount!
Bottom-right: The LA-EA1 lens adapter allows full aperture control but definitely no AF with screw-drive lenses. I did not fully mount it yet hence the rotation.

I tried the Sony 30mm F2.8 DT Macro SAM on it, but it jerked a bit and didn't jerk or move again after pressing the lens release buttons. Then again this was a demo unit so the functionality could be changed, as there are other testimonials saying that SSM lenses did AF.

The Minolta 50mm F1.4 balances well. Then again, a Nikkor 50mm F1.8 E-series pancake will fit in pockets better.

MF with screw-drive lenses was not as hard as I thought - if you saw the video from the Zeiss 135mm F1.8 the first thing you'd notice is the wobbling (no SteadyShot!) You'd probably think that it supported AF in video, the way I was manually focusing. Anyone could beat the contrast-detect AF speed on say the Nikon D90 easily. Then again, I was pretty alright refocusing with the Nikon D90 albeit handicapped by the reverse focus ring.

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Unfortunately, the rectangular baffle of the LA-EA1 lens adapter is APS-C sized; if there was a future full-frame NEX body, you'd have to buy a new lens adapter to fit full-frame lenses!

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Sweep Panorama with the VCL-ECF1 fisheye adapter isn't as clean as it is without - it also stops at a 180 degree turn. However it should still, in theory, give you more at the top and bottom. Will need a scientific test with and without for this.

Sweep Panorama fires the shutter away, making it a really noisy process - nothing at all like the silent sweeping espionage on my WX-1. One step backward.

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The fisheye adapter has a permanent lens hood which will reach nearly the center of the image when flash is used. Sony, give us a bigger flash or the ability to trigger an external flash! One step backward.

There is no wireless flash option. I'm sure somebody will figure out the pinout protocol and make a standard hotshoe adapter (preferably using a flash bracket.)

At the very least, I would buy a Sony FA-CC1AM flash cable with the E-mount accessory port instead.

Interface

In some ways the interface is slower but not that slow, for example if I was in Aperture Priority:

To change aperture on the NEX-3/NEX-5:
1) roll the dial

To change EV on the NEX-3/NEX-5:
1) press Down on the D-pad (it is marked with the EV icon)
2) roll the dial

To change ISO on the NEX-3/NEX-5:
1) press Menu
2) select Camera icon
3) press center button
4) go through menu to ISO option
5) press center button
6) select the ISO (I don't remember if the dial can be used for this)

Now let's see how the A-mount Alphas do it:

To change ISO on an A-mount camera:
1) press ISO button
2) roll the dial

What about Sony Cybershot cameras?

To change ISO on a Sony Cybershot WX-1 camera:
1) press Menu button
2) press up or down to ISO option
3) press left or right to change ISO

If you just changed ISO, and want to change it again, it will remember that you were at the ISO option, so you skip step 2 and save time!

There is a lower button which is always set to Shooting Tips. I would love for this button to be customizable, to change ISO, for example.

I wish the Sony Cybershot team designed the menus instead! The idea of putting the workload in another team to get to a deadline is cool, but the results were not cool. I've always thought that the Cybershots had far better menu design. One very big step backward.

Heck, even changing the sweep direction is far more hidden, by these darn Sony Ericsson designers! Don't get me wrong - I don't expect the interface of a bigger-sized Alpha 900 with loads of buttons, but this is weaker than the Cybershot interface.

That said, if you are interested in the NEX series, or a tiny Mirrorless Interchangeable-Lens Format camera, and you are well aware of its shortcomings, when you see and touch one, you will not be disappointed! A slight desire for this will be amplified when you see it.

ieR: This Sunday?

zstan: Not necessarily. It is a common misconception that plastic is weaker than metal - some are just more brittle, some spread heat better, plastic is not a conductor, metal expands and contracts based on temperature and for some applications the ability for plastic to bounce helps better with impact. It depends, really.

Try picking one subject and shooting that instead. Your pictures will be more interesting.

I like your sunset, though!

mastering89: So you can use unchipped lenses in Aperture Priority or other modes. With the A200 onwards you have to turn to Manual Exposure or else it will say "Lens not attached. Shutter is locked." This is despite the fact that the meter will still work in Aperture Priority without a chipped lens!

noprob: Like the blue monorail and the blue sky, but too bad about the lamp.

lwliam: Wah, rather busy pictures of Langkawi.

clivengu: Huge only compared to the collapsing Olympus zooms. Yes the zoom ring and focus ring is made of metal! When you see it you'll know how small it is.

roymustang: Very not recommended to mix batteries from different batches, capacities or chemical types.

Seng_Kiat: Hmmm. Bokeh yes, message?

cjlai: Nice blues. Let's see more fisheye shots for unconventional things!

aqiera: I love how my eyes travel up and down the photo!

ahtsong: Congratulations!

d4rkholeang3l: Nice cat shot! 8tvt too (though in portrait maybe better.)
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Albert, u really shud put part 1 n 2 together. Very nice write up. Post it as a new topic- NEX3 n 5 Preview. thumbup.gif
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@albert , where is part 1 ?
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Alex: wah! Ur cat damn cute. Haha. Love the 4th pic. If added nice bokeh better.

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i was worried that it might ruin the pic as a distraction.. sweat.gif

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thanks biggrin.gif

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will keep that in mind..thanks!!=D nice write up for the NEX!! and ipod has an app for everything eh?can do measurements some more sweat.gif
any hints about the price and those adapters yet?

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ur pics could be sharper..try focusing on the eye instead..=)

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IMO if can see the back of the head it will be dramatic. nice one. =)
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what's that sony thing behind?O.O
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what's that sony thing behind?O.O
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 26 2010, 10:16 AM)
NEX series seems nice but changing the simple function such as ISO seems like the hardest thing to do though. Lol.
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NEX is for compact user who wants dslr IQ for a change~ i dont mind get one for casual outing or for my gf tho~ tongue.gif


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so the story of this shot is to show off ur new haul eh?brows.gif



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QUOTE(mastering89 @ May 26 2010, 09:43 AM)
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Try to put your cobra further back. Looks nicer. The Sony is rather distracting.
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just underexpose the background
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guysss...

later i going shoot people play football..

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Try to use > F4 to get sharp pictures.. some guys only use F8~ get ready to bump your iso~
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 26 2010, 03:49 PM)
guysss...

later i going shoot people play football..

any tips?this is my first time doing this kind of shoots. notworthy.gif
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Mikeshashimi & zstan & Wonka : tonite try again, still cant figure out correct exposure for small2 thing like danbo in total darkness. Also my room is quite small, the cobra was actually beside the wall. sweat.gif

Kul | Mo0 : hey , u went to digital mall check ??
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Nah didnt. Got a used one. Old design. XD
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Kul | Mo0 : how much brows.gif ?? im thinking probably just buy lah the rm199 one, still crumpler thou sweat.gif
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mastering89 : RM230. XD There's a shop in Digital Mall selling imitation 6MDH for RM190 though. Dono did the right decision anot. LOL.

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Single buckle and double buckle lo. Single is old design while double buckle is new design.
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shooting really tough...200mm tak cukup la!!

around 6pm then need bump iso to 800 to maintain the shutter..

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 26 2010, 08:38 PM)
backk...

shooting really tough...200mm tak cukup la!!

around 6pm then need bump iso to 800 to maintain the shutter..

very hard to focus the right thing..good experience.. laugh.gif


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u buy for me la..

eh guys....my shutter count keep resetting once it reaches 9999!!

how to make it dun reset??help!
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u buy for me la..

eh guys....my shutter count keep resetting once it reaches 9999!!

how to make it dun reset??help!
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I would buy a new car than buying this thing icon_rolleyes.gif

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har? really a? i tot its my problem only...

a700 n a550 also got this problem?

not going yumcha lea...going back kampung...hope to shoot sunset again:hehe:
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guys..how come my picture always got some noise 1..even at iso 200...using low shutter?..

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now i only notice.. blink.gif

i using tripod..and the Noise Reduction set to High..
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ahpingko off the noise reduction and try again.=)
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ahpingko off the noise reduction and try again.=)
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like that what noise reduction do?
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but somehow it will cos unnecessary sharpening of ur pics..making it a bit grainy.

correct me if i am wrong... blush.gif
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my guess is f8.
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Definitely more then f8. I think it's double. f16.

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sifu where r u? faster give the answer! tongue.gif
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it doesnt necessary have to be sharp, it all depends on the distance of the lens, or rather, the sensor, to the subject. it has quite a number of contributing factors
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EXIF attach with the photo... just right click u'll know....

anyway.... check below...

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Camera Maker: KONICA MINOLTA
Camera Model: ALPHA-7 DIGITAL
Image Date: 2010:05:08 10:41:25
Focal Length: 105.0mm (35mm equivalent: 157mm)
Aperture: f/13.0
Exposure Time: 0.013 s (1/80)
ISO equiv: 100
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Spot
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zstan: No hints yet. To prevent it from resetting after 9999, stop taking pictures.

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ahpingko: Turn off DRO to reduce noise.
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ianho: It exceeds 10 pictures so it spans 2 posts - and my Streamyx died just when I was about to post #2!

alex_cyw1985: Well done, good subject!

zstan: No hints yet. To prevent it from resetting after 9999, stop taking pictures.

mastering89: I'll have a TT the moment I buy one so you all can try it!

ahpingko: Turn off DRO to reduce noise.
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Albert, recompile it n post it up as a new topic. It's not everyday we get the privilege of LYN members with actual hands on preview of pre production cameras. thumbup.gif
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Albert, recompile it n post it up as a new topic. It's not everyday we get the privilege of LYN members with actual hands on preview of pre production cameras.  thumbup.gif
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yes it might attracts more people to read.. thumbup.gif
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alex_cyw1985: Well done, good subject!

zstan: No hints yet. To prevent it from resetting after 9999, stop taking pictures.

mastering89: I'll have a TT the moment I buy one so you all can try it!

ahpingko: Turn off DRO to reduce noise.
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technically why DRO caused the noise?
DRO sharpen the photo?
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technically why DRO caused the noise?
DRO sharpen the photo?
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i think so.. blink.gif

btw, does anyone know alpha 550 got 9 boxes views?..i want to learn on how to create a good composition...
like this:
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 27 2010, 08:51 AM)
technically why DRO caused the noise?
DRO sharpen the photo?
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DRO lights up some dark or underexpose parts in a photo. So i guess it works like pumping iso but for selective areas hence the increase in noise. Again, this is just an assumption.
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ May 26 2010, 06:21 PM)
Gouki : come2 cepat beli  rclxms.gif

Mikeshashimi & zstan & Wonka : tonite try again, still cant figure out correct exposure for small2 thing like danbo in total darkness. Also my room is quite small, the cobra was actually beside the wall. sweat.gif

Kul | Mo0 : hey , u went to digital mall check ??
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but i am using f42 now~ less bulky~ easy to carry in my small sling bag~ good enough for casual outing with frens~ although f58 is in my list for future strobist~ but on the side note~ my heart set on the 50mm f1.4 1st~ hmmm~ blush.gif
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QUOTE(RedFrame @ May 27 2010, 10:01 AM)
Hi, I am a newcomer to DSLR. Just bought a A500L and I am anticipating its potential smile.gif
Just bought a Minolta Maxxum 50mm f1.7 and I am thinking of a Minolta telephoto zoom lens.
Question, Beercan or Bigbeercan?

Thanks
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welcome bro... get a beercan la... more creamy bokeh.... n lighter biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 27 2010, 10:08 AM)
but i am using f42 now~ less bulky~ easy to carry in my small sling bag~ good enough for casual outing with frens~ although f58 is in my list for future strobist~ but on the side note~ my heart set on the 50mm f1.4 1st~ hmmm~ blush.gif
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psstt...f58 yo...ppl envy looking at our f58... tongue.gif

i got 1 Q's for u guys....someone in my scooter forum said that close up = macro...is there any define explanation on this term...???thanx... biggrin.gif
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Hi, I am a newcomer to DSLR. Just bought a A500L and I am anticipating its potential smile.gif
Just bought a Minolta Maxxum 50mm f1.7 and I am thinking of a Minolta telephoto zoom lens.
Question, Beercan or Bigbeercan?

Thanks
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if choose between beercan and big beercan, i will opt for the beercan (70210f/4) for the constant aperture. although it might be small difference in two, one win for range, one win for aperture.

unless if you think range more important, then big beercan..
else sure a beercan can satisfy u.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(hazril @ May 27 2010, 10:15 AM)
psstt...f58 yo...ppl envy looking at our f58... tongue.gif

i got 1 Q's for u guys....someone in my scooter forum said that close up = macro...is there any define explanation on this term...???thanx... biggrin.gif
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here's a good reference : link

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“Close-up” photography will be used for anything up close up to life-size reproductions (i.e. from about 1:10 down to 1:1 magnification ratio) and the term “Macro” ("micro" in Nikon terminology) photography will refer to reproductions beyond life-size reproductions (i.e. from 1:1 up to 22:1 magnification ratio) with the use of cameras,  lenses and associated close-up attachments lenses mounted on them.



Gouki : haha the cobra is abit bulky and quite heavy if pair with heavy lenses sweat.gif even if not including VG.
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QUOTE(hazril @ May 27 2010, 10:15 AM)
psstt...f58 yo...ppl envy looking at our f58... tongue.gif

i got 1 Q's for u guys....someone in my scooter forum said that close up = macro...is there any define explanation on this term...???thanx... biggrin.gif
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but but~ i still can live with the f42 for casual outing~ lol~ i am so poison with the 50mm f1.4 ler~ tongue.gif
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i using 55-200 also can feel heavy..
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ May 27 2010, 10:44 AM)
here's a good reference : link
Gouki : haha the cobra is abit bulky and quite heavy if pair with heavy lenses  sweat.gif even if not including VG.
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hahaha~ thats why~ f58 later since i have a f42 for the time being~ 50mm 1st~ thx to moo lar~ he make me feel like hauling another lens 1st~ tongue.gif

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8tvt : haha, just with cobra + lens on i felt like my Matin strap want to putus sweat.gif
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Added on May 27, 2010, 11:14 amGouki: well, Moo makes us all want to haul. haha. tongue.gif

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8tvt : wait till you try my Sigma. (:

hazril : nice idea of buying both. (:


Added on May 27, 2010, 11:17 amMikeshashimi : but i didn't haul anymore. XD

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here's another of mine brows.gif

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mastering89 : getting the fake crumpler? Wanna buy my old design but original wan? Feel like getting the new design le. Don't care original or not. Lol.
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hahaha.. i'm comparing with the kit lens.. ofcourse..
in the long run with 55-200 will feel more strain.. almost half a kilo.. smile.gif
'lenguh' la after a few hours.. luckily the body not that heavy..
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Haha Mo0 WTS thread here hahaha
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 27 2010, 10:56 AM)
Gouki : but what did i do la? Haha! Get the Sigma version straight la. (:
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what you did? this lar~! tongue.gif


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mastering : thanx for the link bro! biggrin.gif
8tvt : u sure ka...???55200 is quite light woo...
gouki : tutup mata buy both.... tongue.gif
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no budget~ so can only buy what i dont have 1st~ sad.gif

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post May 27 2010, 11:41 AM

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freddy manson : not WTS la. Just asking around only ma. (:
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8tvt, then i guess you havent gotten the chance to hold a 70-200 yet, the 55200 will feel like a paper plane.. Lol.. Even my 75-300 kit lens also heavier..
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i use to have a minolta 100-300... heavier than 55200.
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how bout a550+battgrip+f58+70-400... biggrin.gif

i've tried that combo b4...ho demm...!
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heaviest for me is 70200 (forgot which brand) or sony 70300G + a700 + batt grip + f58.. Hand can tahan 20 mins shoot only, after that need to shoot, hang on neck, shoot, hang..
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anyone hold 300G b4?
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^william, last time I borow frend's 70200 + VG + body.. Somemore use the hnd strap

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Takes me only +/- 5 minutes before I surender n gave up the hand strap
Ur 20min is okay la hahaha skinny guy like me kenot than, esp using the hand strap
Wah crazy fren la he use the hand strap even using all those + f42 summore
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for a starter buying first flash, f20am, is it worth buying?
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for a starter buying first flash, f20am, is it worth buying?
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sifu, am i correct? sweat.gif
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for a starter buying first flash, f20am, is it worth buying?
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nope. that flash is intended for a850 and a900 users in which these cameras can use f20 to trigger off-camera flashes.

sifu, am i correct?  sweat.gif
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yes

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Hako, mike. The f20 can bounce.. So its not entirely for commander mode in FF models

For starter I think its quite good if u're shooting portraits n macro-like shots..
Limited power/function makes it hard to use in more wide photography area
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apart from Picasa, what are the other useful and free photo edit software that is available?
thanks.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 27 2010, 01:25 PM)
nope. that flash is intended for a850 and a900 users in which these cameras can use f20 to trigger off-camera flashes.

sifu, am i correct?  sweat.gif
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I see. i see.

QUOTE(likito @ May 27 2010, 01:28 PM)
i would rather buy prime lens 1st , sony/minolta 50mm recommended rm400-500


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yes
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yeap. planning to get one.
just recently got extra money, so wanna get raynox/50mm/ and maybe a cheap flash.
QUOTE(freddy manson @ May 27 2010, 01:29 PM)
Hako, mike. The f20 can bounce.. So its not entirely for commander mode in FF models

For starter I think its quite good if u're shooting portraits n macro-like shots..
Limited power/function makes it hard to use in more wide photography area
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i dont really do wide photography. more of still life stuffs.

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flickr online edit software?
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QUOTE(freddy manson @ May 27 2010, 01:29 PM)
Hako, mike. The f20 can bounce.. So its not entirely for commander mode in FF models

For starter I think its quite good if u're shooting portraits n macro-like shots..
Limited power/function makes it hard to use in more wide photography area
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but i would recommend starters to get cheap manual flashes... around rm100-200+

unless of course money is not an issue, then f20 is good.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 27 2010, 01:38 PM)
but i would recommend starters to get cheap manual flashes... around rm100-200+

unless of course money is not an issue, then f20 is good.
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but i saw Rm199 flash in garage sales but not for sony mount. sad.gif
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QUOTE(hako @ May 27 2010, 01:21 PM)
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f42. Still it depends on your usage. I've read reviews at alphanatics some regrets buying it. I once contemplate to get it but after reading reviews it really makes me hunger for f42. I suggest you read reviews then try it yourself to see which one is more suitable for you. Getting a lens is ok but getting a flash is totally new experience for us nubs.
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^hako: well I think its good but it WAY TOOO limited
For the same price u can get Cybertik 45mz (forgot the name liao)

With flash in hands (err I mean in camera) its a new world.. Good luck!
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i not using this.. but it's looks cool..
http://www.photoscape.org/ps/main/index.php
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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ May 27 2010, 01:41 PM)
f42. Still it depends on your usage. I've read reviews at alphanatics some regrets buying it. I once contemplate to get it but after reading reviews it really makes me hunger for f42. I suggest you read reviews then try it yourself to see which one is more suitable for you. Getting a lens is ok but getting a flash is totally new experience for us nubs.
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an used f42 is like double the price of f20. sad.gif
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QUOTE(hako @ May 27 2010, 01:43 PM)
an used f42 is like double the price of f20. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ May 27 2010, 01:47 PM)
Yes. But you'll satisfied it rather later the hassle to sell it back once you realize that the you couldn't get more out of your f20.
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but also, how much do u really need a flash?
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i hear got ppl interested in f42??? brows.gif wts wts

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can can.. pm me.. Shhh, kenot do wts here, later waykayshen ><

Anyhow, i wouldnt recommend f20 as the 1st flash, eventually u will hunger for more power output. Might as well get a proper flash head, nissin ke, metz ke, yuongnuo ke...
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or minolta 3600 or 5600
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Last time hunting for nissin for sony and when i saw the price difference just like 100 bucks its better to get the sony ones.
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nissin ada flash for sony liao eh? XD
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QUOTE(hiansitt @ May 27 2010, 02:23 PM)
nissin ada flash for sony liao eh? XD
f20 experience, pls pm kmarc for a talk smile.gif
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Its a 3rd party la. Falcon eyes / nissin or wut. Cant remember. was looking for 3rd party flashes. Later see the price different to little plus the benefits ; choose f42 .
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Yah f42 is more then enuff and I think if ur starting to learn then its last u a year or two b4 u plan to upgrade
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f20 can do wireless...??? laugh.gif
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F20 can only be wireless commander on A700/A850/A900. On other models it is just a glorified pop-up that can bounce.

Meaning you cannot trigger the F20 off camera no matter what cam you're using.
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QUOTE(shootkk @ May 27 2010, 03:20 PM)
F20 can only be wireless commander on A700/A850/A900. On other models it is just a glorified pop-up that can bounce.

Meaning you cannot trigger the F20 off camera no matter what cam you're using.
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gouki : Whoops! My mistake... F20 cannot be commander on A700...
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anyone using Natural Density filter/CPL/Infrared?..or polariser??...
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ahpingko, rmb the pm i sent u about the CPL? how?
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ahpingko, rmb the pm i sent u about the CPL? how?
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Guys, tolong! Juz now when I off my camera it vibrated quite strongly n produced sum vibration sound. Now the same thing happen whenever I on or off it. I think it should be the sensor cleaning thing. Will it affect the sensor if I cont to use it?
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QUOTE(soket @ May 27 2010, 04:45 PM)
Guys, tolong! Juz now when I off my camera it vibrated quite strongly n produced sum vibration sound. Now the same thing happen whenever I on or off it. I think it should be the sensor cleaning thing. Will it affect the sensor if I cont to use it?
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thats the anti-dust mechanism in action bro...if scared,might as well send to the service center for inspection....
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QUOTE(hazril @ May 27 2010, 04:56 PM)
thats the anti-dust mechanism in action bro...if scared,might as well send to the service center for inspection....
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The vibration n the sound quite strong n scary. Im actually at penang for vacation. Tml only go back
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QUOTE(hako @ May 27 2010, 01:21 PM)
for a starter buying first flash, f20am, is it worth buying?
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It depends on your needs actually, if you are really serious about flash photography and got extra bucks, go for F58AM, or maybe F42AM smile.gif
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QUOTE(soket @ May 27 2010, 04:45 PM)
Guys, tolong! Juz now when I off my camera it vibrated quite strongly n produced sum vibration sound. Now the same thing happen whenever I on or off it. I think it should be the sensor cleaning thing. Will it affect the sensor if I cont to use it?
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hehe... is it the "trrrrrr" sound ? hehe

I had the same experience too, and was very afraid somethin is wrong with my A550
However, the guys here assured me that it is all right. Yes, it is the sensor cleaning mechanism. I have no problem till now also no problem using my alpha.

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if its not the SSS sound~ then it could be the sal1870 kitlens gone case~ smile.gif
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hehe... is it the "trrrrrr" sound ? hehe

I had the same experience too, and was very afraid somethin is wrong with my A550
However, the guys here assured me that it is all right. Yes, it is the sensor cleaning mechanism. I have no problem till now also no problem using my alpha.
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The vibration is much more longer than usual
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soket : Do your pictures come out ok? If they do then, it should not be the Steady shot problem.

Look through your viewfinder and look at the SSS indicator. Is it always full bars and flashing? If it is then it is a SSS failure and you need to send your cam in for servicing.

In the mean time, you can still take pics. Just turn the SSS to off.

If you find that your lens have difficulty focusing to and from infinity, then it may be a case of gear stripping of your lens. Solution, use another lens or use manual focus if you do not have another lens.

Then go buy another lens to replace the kitty lens.
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I dont think it is the SteadyShot vibration... since bro soket's vibrate when turning ON and/or OFF. I believe it is the sensor anti-dust mechanism at work...
ie the trrrrrrrr sound.

I think it is the anti-dust mechanism la

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Why HSS is disabled on the F58AM when the head is set to bounce ?
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 27 2010, 05:21 PM)
I dont think it is the SteadyShot vibration... since bro soket's vibrate when turning ON and/or OFF. I believe it is the sensor anti-dust mechanism at work...
ie the trrrrrrrr sound.

I think it is the anti-dust mechanism la
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Yes is the anti-dust mechanism, whenever ur A550 turns off, the camera itself will vibrate the sensor to let the dust come off (although I did not find any effectiveness on it)
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isnt the SSS and anti-dust supposed to be the same???


Added on May 27, 2010, 6:46 pmsame mechanism i mean..

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just kena poisoned by mark 2 with 24mm f1.4 rclxm9.gif
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Thats my favorite walkabout lens now among all my 16 lenses. Razor sharp at wide open with awesome bokeh! smile.gif
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did my post just got deleted?hmm.gif anyway.... whistling.gif

haha..yea..nice bokeh..my cousin poisoning me to jump!

arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 27 2010, 09:08 PM)
did my post just got deleted?hmm.gif anyway.... whistling.gif

haha..yea..nice bokeh..my cousin poisoning me to jump!

arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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1) i think OUR posts got deleted because its with regards to sale and buy trade.. so prohibited here.. maybe viking can clarify this whether im correct or not.

2) DONT JUMP!!! vmad.gif laugh.gif
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haha..i tot my browser hang or something...

so tempting larrr....>______<

have u used the lens before??

even f1.4 still razor sharp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 27 2010, 09:05 PM)
Thats my favorite walkabout lens now among all my 16 lenses. Razor sharp at wide open with  awesome bokeh! smile.gif
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wah, u poisoned by that lens ah? Faster jump la, wait what some more.. Cousin ask wor, sure jump la. Sony dun have 1.2 lens, canon only got the 7k lens. I support to jump.

Poison poison

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QUOTE(lwliam @ May 27 2010, 10:36 PM)
wah, u poisoned by that lens ah? Faster jump la, wait what some more.. Cousin ask wor, sure jump la. Sony dun have 1.2 lens, canon only got the 7k lens. I support to jump.

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 27 2010, 09:13 PM)
even f1.4 still razor sharp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rclxm9.gif
It's one of the sharpest lens available in Canon. No need to fake the sharpness and bokeh in PS. It just comes out like that. By the way your aunt owned that much of gears huh?

QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 27 2010, 10:49 PM)
chill la... strong sarcasm..  rolleyes.gif
Yea, relax la. biggrin.gif
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hahaha... u sure want to jump??? Kwanon don't have DRO (Which I MISS DEARLY... tongue.gif) and only selected lenses have IS/SSS... where one of it is the 24-105L (planning to get one soon)... And the flash... sweat.gif sweat.gif somehow sweating balls now trying to find extra budget to get the Kwanon Flash... tongue.gif

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nobody's jumping here. just having the slightest though of it nia.

but someone seems very supportive of me jumping. =)


Added on May 28, 2010, 12:23 am
QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 27 2010, 11:59 PM)
It's one of the sharpest lens available in Canon. No need to fake the sharpness and bokeh in PS. It just comes out like that. By the way your aunt owned that much of gears huh?
Yea, relax la. biggrin.gif
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yea...not many lens still so sharp at f1.4 laugh.gif

....hmmm?my aunt? hmm.gif

nola my cousin.

he got every L lens. crazy. rclxub.gif

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U must be Viking's cousin... tongue.gif hehehehe....
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vikingw2k : zstan's cousin has EVERY L lens wor. Come on don't lose to his cousin! XD
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doh.gif okay..better change topic..this is getting too far.. sweat.gif

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something for us to wish this to come true....

http://sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-at-least-6-...-next-3-months/
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something for us to wish this to come true....

http://sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-at-least-6-...-next-3-months/
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However I still put some expectation on their A7xx model
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ianho: New topic ah?

8tvt: DRO underexposes to save the highlights from being blown out, and brightens the shadows (and the noise in the shadows.)

Mikeshashimi: That is exactly right, what DRO is, in the manual. In reality ISO1600 is just pumped from whatever base ISO your sensor uses.

mastering89: Congratulations, enjoy!

likito: I have - it's one of the lighter 300mm F2.8 lenses in the market at 2.3 kg and a closer 2 meter MFD than any other.

soket: Sounds like gear stripping - remove your kit lens and try again - if there is no sound, then it's gear stripping.

gizmo_pony: HSS needs to pulse the flash rapidly so it gets weak in bounce.

zstan: Good moment, now crop it!
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 27 2010, 09:08 PM)
did my post just got deleted?hmm.gif anyway.... whistling.gif
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Mine is deleted too... sad.gif
Somehow I get fedup with some people mad.gif
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Mine is deleted too...  sad.gif
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question: how does gear stripping occur? and are there any steps to prevent it? i takut i kena later... sad.gif
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I posted about it a while back in this thread or a few generations back LOL. Or you could find it on my blog.

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just googled ur gear-stripped post in ur blog... abit too technical for me but i think i got it.... tongue.gif
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sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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This is how bad it can be when you are taking too much dosage of prime-drugs. sad.gif

QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 28 2010, 12:26 AM)
vikingw2k : zstan's cousin has EVERY L lens wor. Come on don't lose to his cousin! XD
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I'm done with 16 lenses though I doubt his cousin having that many tongue.gif After all I'm just a casual shooter. Another 50mm f1.0 should complete my arsenal and hopefully I will rehabilitate.
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Hi, I've decided to get a Beercan for my telephoto lens due to the recommendation from the users here.
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Should I insist on getting the 70-210mm f4? I have found someone selling a 70-210mm f3.5-4.5 ,is there a very big difference ?

Ive read some review online but I think its best to ask what the real users think.To be honest I am just into DSLR but I think that I should go for a good lens straight away instead of keep on craving for an upgrade.


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Question 1 : " How do u judge a photo that is a good shot ? "
Question 2 : " The color tone of photo that u shot compare with what u can see from naked eye is look similar consider good shot ? "
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QUOTE(RedFrame @ May 28 2010, 08:19 AM)
Hi, I've decided to get a Beercan for my telephoto lens due to the recommendation from the users here.
Question,
Should I insist on getting the 70-210mm f4? I have found someone selling a 70-210mm f3.5-4.5 ,is there a very big difference ?  

Ive read some review online but I think its best to ask what the real users think.To be honest I am just into DSLR but I think that I should go for a good lens straight away instead of keep on craving for an upgrade.
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Get the 70-210 F4 rather than the new 70-210 F3.5-F4.5 IQ wasn't so good as the F4 or perhaps I should say that it shows the big differences


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QUOTE(boyzone @ May 28 2010, 08:24 AM)
Yesterday received 2 questions from fren in the gathering.
The question is very simple, they asked

Question 1 : " How do u judge a photo that is a good shot ? "
Question 2 : " The color tone of photo that u shot compare with what u can see from naked eye is look similar consider good shot ? "
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Q1 : A good shots defines your composition and also technical understanding on adjust your camera into a right setting to develop a right exposure

Q2 : Well it depends the current environment condition and also what you compose too, however color tone may have your own personal taste to blend on your picture, is not 100% need to be the same color tone as what you see from your naked eye because to defines a good color tone is base on how you want the color mood on your picture be to match your photo's for making an stunning look.

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QUOTE(wingster @ May 28 2010, 08:27 AM)
Get the 70-210 F4 rather than the new 70-210 F3.5-F4.5 IQ wasn't so good as the F4 or perhaps I should say that it shows the big differences


Added on May 28, 2010, 8:33 am

Q1 : A good shots defines your composition and also technical understanding on adjust your camera into a right setting to develop a right exposure

Q2 : Well it depends the current environment condition and also what you compose too, however color tone may have your own personal taste to blend on your picture, is not 100% need to be the same color tone as what you see from your naked eye because to defines a good color tone is base on how you want the color mood on your picture be to match your photo's for making an stunning look.
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Bro wingster,
Thanks for the answer.

Btw, ppls will question back if they din touch on DSLR

Example:
Question 1 : For me, I did not see different compare between DSLR with correct setting vs normal digital cam. Maybe what u all claim good shot is just a very normal photo for me.

Question 2: Not everybody can accept our taste ...

I was spent around 30min on this topic during the gathering rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(albnok @ May 28 2010, 01:50 AM)
8tvt: DRO underexposes to save the highlights from being blown out, and brightens the shadows (and the noise in the shadows.)
oh meant @ foreground/subject tend to get noise?
must observe later..

hehe a good photo when we said it's good..
there's no bad photo while other ppl said it's good..

the Q should says "How to make the photo nicer"

it's just same when we said how to define dark,
we can't measures darkness but we can put some light into account..
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Errrmmmm... reading previous posts, is f1.4 the sharpest lens? E.g. 50mm f1.4? hmm.gif

Lol, I just checked my Maha PowerEx AA batteries. Started using on 10th March 2010 on my F58 and up to now, the battery is still going strong on the first charge!!!! thumbup.gif

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50mm f1.4 is 450mm MFD while the 50mm f1.8 is 350mm MFD~ decisions~ hmm.gif
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RedFrame: the beercan f4 is better i would think due to its constant aperture.

boyzone:

well, to answer both ur question, it really depends on what 'a good shot' is...

is it

a) technically perfect shot (perfectly composed well exposed shot..etc) OR
b) something that looks good with a meaning behind it eventho there are some technicalities (noisy, underexposed, overexposed etc)

otherwise, what "a good shot" is , its really very very subjective. smile.gif
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fansoption : thats some nice macro of water droplets drool.gif . come check this link . some interesting ++ for ur macro thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ May 28 2010, 01:03 PM)
fansoption : thats some nice macro of water droplets  drool.gif . come check this link . some interesting ++ for ur macro  thumbup.gif
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Look fake leh, but nice. I no pro in water droplets one just try off only haha
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QUOTE(fansoption @ May 28 2010, 01:10 PM)
Look fake leh, but nice. I no pro in water droplets one just try off only haha
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you can try this technique as well, the same one but using photoshop smile.gif


stacking with photoshop

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you can try this technique as well, the same one but using photoshop  smile.gif
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linkinstreet : planning to go but have to help friend , cant try ur 50mm siggy thou sad.gif

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i not using this.. but it's looks cool..
http://www.photoscape.org/ps/main/index.php
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Hi, thanks for the recommendation
will look it up

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QUOTE(RedFrame @ May 28 2010, 08:19 AM)
Hi, I've decided to get a Beercan for my telephoto lens due to the recommendation from the users here.
Question,
Should I insist on getting the 70-210mm f4? I have found someone selling a 70-210mm f3.5-4.5 ,is there a very big difference ? 

Ive read some review online but I think its best to ask what the real users think.To be honest I am just into DSLR but I think that I should go for a good lens straight away instead of keep on craving for an upgrade.
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It's not the best tele but it's not that bad. I used it before, check out these 2 links:

Putrajaya

Mini bike

Of coz if u have the budget, no harm getting the beercan. But with the cheaper price and lighter weight, i chose the other one over beercan.
but the best is still 70~300G thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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why suddenly so quiet?
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QUOTE(shootkk @ May 27 2010, 05:15 PM)
soket : Do your pictures come out ok? If they do then, it should not be the Steady shot problem.

Look through your viewfinder and look at the SSS indicator. Is it always full bars and flashing? If it is then it is a SSS failure and you need to send your cam in for servicing.

In the mean time, you can still take pics. Just turn the SSS to off.

If you find that your lens have difficulty focusing to and from infinity, then it may be a case of gear stripping of your lens. Solution, use another lens or use manual focus if you do not have another lens.

Then go buy another lens to replace the kitty lens.
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 27 2010, 05:21 PM)
I dont think it is the SteadyShot vibration... since bro soket's vibrate when turning ON and/or OFF. I believe it is the sensor anti-dust mechanism at work...
ie the trrrrrrrr sound.

I think it is the anti-dust mechanism la
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 27 2010, 06:13 PM)
Yes is the anti-dust mechanism, whenever ur A550 turns off, the camera itself will vibrate the sensor to let the dust come off (although I did not find any effectiveness on it)
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i found out tat is my lens problem like wat shootkk mentioned. kenot repair? i cant really use manual focus cuz kenot fully turn the focus ring T.T
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I think gear stripped lena repair cost is almost the same as brand new price.
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linkinstreet : hey nice, tomorrow i'll be going . spam some pics u took from that lens la..

Mikeshashimi : if send to Sony Service Center they will charge total of RM294 IINM sweat.gif . try find other lenses better whistling.gif like mini beercan around that price but suprisingly super sharp thumbup.gif
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But the mini beercan not wide enough at the widest end.
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Goyang ka ?
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guys,can i charge eneloop batteries with other charger...???i got ansmann charger and panasonic charger...
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guys,can i charge eneloop batteries with other charger...???i got ansmann charger and panasonic charger...
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as long as it's a SMART charger. if its timer charger, it might overcharge and spoil the batt.

QUOTE(gizmo_pony @ May 29 2010, 12:40 AM)
I provided them the link for albert's hand-on  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ieR @ May 29 2010, 12:49 AM)
as long as it's a SMART charger. if its timer charger, it might overcharge and spoil the batt.
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how to differentiate smart charger or timer...???like my ansmann,the light will turn to green when its fully charged...according to the manual book it says this one is a smart charger....it will trickle charge when its full....the panasonic one the light will goes off when fully charged...
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ansmann is smart charger, then use that smile.gif other best way to know it is that, it doesnt require pairs to charge, those old timer charger usually requires 'pairs' to able to start charging.
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QUOTE(hazril @ May 29 2010, 12:01 AM)
guys,can i charge eneloop batteries with other charger...???i got ansmann charger and panasonic charger...
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I've tried using my Maha, Sony, Uniross, GP charger to charge my Sony, Maha, Sanyo, Uniross, Keep, Energizer, GP, Panasonic batteries in any combination. So far no bad incident happened.
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QUOTE(ieR @ May 29 2010, 01:07 AM)
ansmann is smart charger, then use that smile.gif other best way to know it is that, it doesnt require pairs to charge, those old timer charger usually requires 'pairs' to able to start charging.
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 29 2010, 01:08 AM)
I've tried using my Maha, Sony, Uniross, GP charger to charge my Sony, Maha, Sanyo, Uniross, Keep, Energizer, GP, Panasonic batteries in any combination. So far no bad incident happened.
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Gouki: Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM has a MFD of 34cm.

fansoption: Good to see you're exploring other shots with macro! I like #1 #4 and #5.

gizmo_pony: Eh the link wrong lah!
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QUOTE(albnok @ May 29 2010, 02:29 AM)
Gouki: Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM has a MFD of 34cm.

fansoption: Good to see you're exploring other shots with macro! I like #1 #4 and #5.

gizmo_pony: Eh the link wrong lah!
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ooopppss sorry my bad, this is the correct one http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1427 .. right ? already askd them to amend the link
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QUOTE(albnok @ May 29 2010, 02:29 AM)
Gouki: Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM has a MFD of 34cm.

fansoption: Good to see you're exploring other shots with macro! I like #1 #4 and #5.

gizmo_pony: Eh the link wrong lah!
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eh~ 340mm~ even better~! i still dilemma ler sifu~ the f1.4 is nice for its larger aperture and built quality~ but the f1.8 is a bargain for its price and IQ~ only drawback~ its a DT lens and i dun really fancy SAM~ how? blush.gif
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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 29 2010, 11:09 AM)
eh~ 340mm~ even better~! i still dilemma ler sifu~ the f1.4 is nice for its larger aperture and built quality~ but the f1.8 is a bargain for its price and IQ~ only drawback~ its a DT lens and i dun really fancy SAM~ how? blush.gif
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easy....r u going to fullframe later...???if no,f1.8 is also ok d...
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easy....r u going to fullframe later...???if no,f1.8 is also ok d...
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hmm~ not really~ i am like waiting for a7xx than FF~ tongue.gif
but only turn off on the f1.8 is the plastic built and SAM~ sad.gif
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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 29 2010, 11:32 AM)
hmm~ not really~ i am like waiting for a7xx than FF~  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(freddy manson @ May 29 2010, 11:37 AM)
alah.. forget the details.. capturing photos is more important..
stop worrying and more shooting!
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gouki, get the F1.8, dont like u can always sell it at minimum lost. or u might get so used to it, u dont bother to upgrade.
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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 29 2010, 11:45 AM)
well, dont wanna regret on the hauling mar~ i cant afford to buy sell buy sell like moo leh~ tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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aiyo...no need to be fussy on the sam or what not....janji u know how to use the gears to achieve what u want....i just love the sound of the lense...and i didnt noticed the sound when starting shooting...just ignored...the main point is the output... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 29 2010, 12:18 PM)
Gouki : I never experience loss in my buy-sells. Either no loss or profits wan. whistling.gif
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SAM Prevent gear stripping from the ganas A700 motor
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I like some lens that the focusing ring doesn't rotate while AF...


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hkhk: i think u mean those with AutoClutch, well, those lens usually has heavier price tag biggrin.gif

i think SAM applies to plastics gears, if SSM, sure must use metal gear... if not, all the gigi patah from the more aggressive SSM... lol

the question is, is A7 motor faster then SAM or slower or same? then only we know does the SAM is a good add on or not.
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Guys, any lubang for service shops to repair/tighten my flash hotshoe mount ar? Hard to bear with it already. It's really loose. Sonystyle would charge me a bomb so I'm thinking of other alternatives.
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 29 2010, 12:37 PM)
Guys, any lubang for service shops to repair/tighten my flash hotshoe mount ar? Hard to bear with it already. It's really loose. Sonystyle would charge me a bomb so I'm thinking of other alternatives.
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If not mistaken Alphanatics got the tutorial for how to replacing the F58AM hotshoe ...
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 29 2010, 02:55 PM)
Just arrived today...  smile.gif

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notice how compact the size...  wub.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ May 29 2010, 02:57 PM)
so nice...how much u bought?..my weifeng also comes with a good bag...and quality oso not bad..
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less than RM700 / - smile.gif
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Is it light?

The price's look good ... biggrin.gif
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To me, it is light (I dont know how to compare). From the specs, it is 1.44kg (not sure if that includes the weight of the ballhead or not).

Price wise... yeah, I believe I got a good price. smile.gif

I just luv the compactness of the package (tripod, ballhead, carry bag) wub.gif

Ini semua eiR's poison punya fault!!! mad.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ieR @ May 29 2010, 12:34 PM)
hkhk: i think u mean those with AutoClutch, well, those lens usually has heavier price tag biggrin.gif

i think SAM applies to plastics gears, if SSM, sure must use metal gear... if not, all the gigi patah from the more aggressive SSM... lol

the question is, is A7 motor faster then SAM or slower or same? then only we know does the SAM is a good add on or not.
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A700 motor can have 2 speed de.. normally I set to high..

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anyone know wat ant is this? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Veron83 @ May 29 2010, 04:52 PM)
A550 + 18-55 kit

newbie here...1st time own DSLR...never P.S...welcome C&C... notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

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congratulation on your new camera... & welcome veron
Dont forget to PM amadeo to include you in the A550 owner list.
A550 is a very good camera.
Nice pix

cjlai, sorry donno what ant that is.

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thanks for all the warm welcome... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

btw...which software i can use to add my signature onto the photo?

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A550 + 18-55 kit

newbie here...1st time own DSLR...never P.S...welcome C&C... notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

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cjlai : The front 2 are legs? Looks like a spider though.
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QUOTE(Veron83 @ May 29 2010, 05:19 PM)
thanks for all the warm welcome... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

btw...which software i can use to add my signature onto the photo?
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photoshop la. smile.gif
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photoshop la. smile.gif
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Otherwise is Photoshop CS5 all the way biggrin.gif
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If you talk about doing something "evil" on the photoshop then it may turned to be a freeware
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dear all,

may i ask something, alpha a550 shutter speed can be set? TQ
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dear all,

may i ask something, alpha a550 shutter speed can be set? TQ
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dear all,

may i ask something, alpha a550 shutter speed can be set? TQ
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all dslr's shutter speed can be set. if not.. how la? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 29 2010, 09:23 PM)
all dslr's shutter speed can be set. if not.. how la?  rclxub.gif
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then may i know where the option for me to pick, like for example 1/4000 , 1/2000 , 1/1000 and so on for the shutter speed? i means i couldn't find out on my dslr for that particular option.

sorry i'm still newbie... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(DeRossi @ May 29 2010, 09:43 PM)
then may i know where the option for me to pick, like for example 1/4000 , 1/2000 , 1/1000 and so on for the shutter speed? i means i couldn't find out on my dslr for that particular option.

sorry i'm still newbie...  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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I still not sure what are u talking about but if u want to set a shutter speed u either switch to 'S' (Shutter Priority) or 'M' (Manual) mode for switching the shutter speed
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QUOTE(DeRossi @ May 29 2010, 09:43 PM)
then may i know where the option for me to pick, like for example 1/4000 , 1/2000 , 1/1000 and so on for the shutter speed? i means i couldn't find out on my dslr for that particular option.

sorry i'm still newbie...  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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ok... u set the DSLR to shutter priority (means on the wheel thing on the top u turn to 'S' ) then u scroll the wheel in front of the shutter-click button. then it will change. try and let us know. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 29 2010, 09:47 PM)
ok... u set the DSLR to shutter priority (means on the wheel thing on the top u turn to 'S' ) then u scroll the wheel in front of the shutter-click button. then it will change. try and let us know. smile.gif
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i got it, problem solve... thanks for the guidance.


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i got it, problem solve... thanks for the guidance.
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Mikeshashimi : I just noticed your signature is inspired by mine. XD
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i got it, problem solve... thanks for the guidance.
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Mikeshashimi : I just noticed your signature is inspired by mine. XD
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Mikeshashimi : Because I did that style first? LOL

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Mikeshashimi : Because I did that style first? LOL

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Mikeshashimi : Because I did that style first? LOL

fas29 : Who's 85ZA?
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Mikeshashimi : XD

wingster : Got ma. Those new Sigma with OS. Only can switch on one at one instance. (:
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 29 2010, 11:11 PM)
Mikeshashimi : XD

wingster : Got ma. Those new Sigma with OS. Only can switch on one at one instance. (:
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What I mean both body IS and In-Lens IS can stack together with greater effect
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Bagman. Or you want my 6 Million Dollar? PM me. XD Planning to get the new design imitation wan. XD
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Mikeshashimi : Because I did that style first? LOL

fas29 : Who's 85ZA?
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Studio Zaloon's lol  sweat.gif
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anyone using metz flash? (mecablitz 48 AF-1) compare to f42, which is nicer.. funding for a flash..
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hiansitt : No need think la. F42 definitely better la.
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i have little knowledge on flash.. pls enlighten me smile.gif
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Really no experience with the Metz. But F42 is a really good flash. Easy to use. And made by own company surely better compared to 3rd party lo. (:
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 30 2010, 12:05 AM)
Really no experience with the Metz. But F42 is a really good flash. Easy to use. And made by own company surely better compared to 3rd party lo. (:
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 30 2010, 12:06 AM)
yeap.. agreed... just get the f42 rclxms.gif
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If not then get the cobra F58 tongue.gif
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lol.. i did love cobra. but my allocation don't.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(hiansitt @ May 30 2010, 12:16 AM)
lol.. i did love cobra. but my allocation don't.. sad.gif
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If u're able to wait for topping up around RM200~RM300 from the F42 budget and really interested on flash shooting, then I suggest you jump directly through F58 for serious flash photography.

Well if you're not often on using flash then perhaps F42 is far good enough
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f42 around 750, f58 around 1150, the gaps is 400. sad.gif i think i'm not a strobist. tongue.gif
anyhow, i just want a better artificial light that when i shoot in low light..
seriously no one using metz 48 af-1 ?

(since money come early july, still have time tongue.gif)
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ok first, whats ur budget?
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800 maybe (best if include battery), it might even less..
so anyhow f58 are out.. coz of money constrain, and if wan stretch out, den i have to eat grass for the next semester..
even a used f58 (that come with warranty) also price higher..

and maybe wait for a free f42, but i doubt i have that creativity smile.gif
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when do u need the flash?
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QUOTE(hiansitt @ May 30 2010, 12:57 AM)
800 maybe (best if include battery), it might even less..
so anyhow f58 are out.. coz of money constrain, and if wan stretch out, den i have to eat grass for the next semester..
even a used f58 (that come with warranty) also price higher..

and maybe wait for a free f42, but i doubt i have that creativity smile.gif
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ngam2 maa....
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QUOTE(hiansitt @ May 30 2010, 12:57 AM)
800 maybe (best if include battery), it might even less..
so anyhow f58 are out.. coz of money constrain, and if wan stretch out, den i have to eat grass for the next semester..
even a used f58 (that come with warranty) also price higher..

and maybe wait for a free f42, but i doubt i have that creativity smile.gif
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U may try to find a good second F58 hand copy which around RM800~RM900 ... :3 who knows u might get lucky

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hiansitt: the metz 48 is rm980 according to mitmivec's thread... mahal sial.... better get f58 second hand la....


Added on May 30, 2010, 1:07 amhazril:

QUOTE(hazril @ May 29 2010, 01:36 AM)
blah la wei...!
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in http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1439144

why la? im curious. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 30 2010, 01:06 AM)
hiansitt:  the metz 48 is rm980 according to mitmivec's thread... mahal sial.... better get f58 second hand la....
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tutup mata cari another 120 can get f58....

guys,where the cheapest eneloop batteries i can buy from....???


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Added on May 30, 2010, 1:07 amhazril:
in http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1439144

why la? im curious.  sweat.gif
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thats a fren of mine in fb... tongue.gif

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hazril: owh haha..

and eneloop..

i bought mine last time 4 AAs with charger is rm138... rclxms.gif
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btw, i saw jay1981 thread, 780 only. (unless there is a typo, but got two space different wor)

if that were the price, den f42 only choice.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(hiansitt @ May 30 2010, 01:09 AM)
btw, i saw jay1981 thread, 780 only. (unless there is a typo, but got two space different wor)

if that were the price, den f42 only choice.. smile.gif
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definitely! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

unless u dont mind trying out other flashes....
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don't spoil my dream ma.. tongue.gif maybe mitmivec typo.. smile.gif
btw, it is possible the price. coz street price in other place around $220 posted in net (which converted to be rm724+) but still a full months at least to go..
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QUOTE(hiansitt @ May 30 2010, 01:15 AM)
don't spoil my dream ma.. tongue.gif maybe mitmivec typo.. smile.gif
btw, it is possible the price. coz street price in other place around $220 posted in net (which converted to be rm724+) but still a full months at least to go..
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 30 2010, 01:09 AM)
hazril: owh haha..

and eneloop..

i bought mine last time 4 AAs with charger is rm138...  rclxms.gif
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i just want to buy the batteries only...SSK selling for 69 while mitmivec selling for 60 only...quite a bargain there...

QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 30 2010, 01:16 AM)
rm7xx for a 3rd party flash is NOT worth it... better get minolta.. *hint* *hint*  rclxms.gif
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correcto...even f42 is around that range...and if im not mistaken,metz cant wireless i think....
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minolta can work with auto/ADI bo? or they just flash full power? (as i see some have this issue)

one month for me to do research..
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QUOTE(hiansitt @ May 30 2010, 01:19 AM)
minolta can work with auto/ADI bo? or they just flash full power? (as i see some have this issue)

one month for me to do research..
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i think can...u just need to search for minolta 5600 or 3600...i cant remember the model correctly...
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QUOTE(hiansitt @ May 30 2010, 01:19 AM)
minolta can work with auto/ADI bo? or they just flash full power? (as i see some have this issue)

one month for me to do research..
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yeah... memang can. rclxms.gif
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Got myself Minolta 50mm f1.7 and Beercan f4 due to the recommendation of the experts here. I am currently thinking of getting a wide-angle lens to complete me collection.

I'm going to South Korea soon for a month and I don't wanna miss any opportunities taking pictures of their world-cup frenzy (and artificial hot chicks I assume:).. Might as well be well-prepared with my lens arsenal:)

So any recommendation for the best value wide-angle lens?

Thanks Qi Tan

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QUOTE(ieR @ May 29 2010, 12:34 PM)
hkhk: i think u mean those with AutoClutch, well, those lens usually has heavier price tag biggrin.gif

i think SAM applies to plastics gears, if SSM, sure must use metal gear... if not, all the gigi patah from the more aggressive SSM... lol

the question is, is A7 motor faster then SAM or slower or same? then only we know does the SAM is a good add on or not.
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Interesting opinion on A850 from a Canon EOS 5D mark II user

http://www.oter.net/oter/2010/05/hands-on-...-a850-dslr.html
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 30 2010, 07:05 AM)
Interesting opinion on A850 from a Canon EOS 5D mark II user

http://www.oter.net/oter/2010/05/hands-on-...-a850-dslr.html
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Yeah 5DMkII emphasis on low light working but A850/A900 has impressive color on all the time when paired the ultimate Zeiss lens, thats why my heart wanted to lead me for Sony FF after I uses several week of the Canon one.


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may i ask, what's makes u select good flash gear?
increase the shutter speed?
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 30 2010, 07:05 AM)
Interesting opinion on A850 from a Canon EOS 5D mark II user

http://www.oter.net/oter/2010/05/hands-on-...-a850-dslr.html
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"(Sony produces the excellent sensors in the Nikon D3, D3s and D3x cameras, so why high ISO characteristics are so different when they use the sensor in their own camera is something I can’t understand)" sweat.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 30 2010, 09:14 AM)
guys,

may i ask, what's makes u select good flash gear?
increase the shutter speed?
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what good flash gear got to do with shutter speed...???mind to rephrase ur Q's...???
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guys..which version of photoshop r u all using?..i m using CS 5...but does not have additional tools...u all have any nice filter/tools plugin to create nice creative potraits?
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ May 30 2010, 11:07 AM)
guys..which version of photoshop r u all using?..i m using CS 5...but does not have additional tools...u all have any nice filter/tools plugin to create nice creative potraits?
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ May 30 2010, 11:07 AM)
guys..which version of photoshop r u all using?..i m using CS 5...but does not have additional tools...u all have any nice filter/tools plugin to create nice creative potraits?
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wow kaya lah u beli CS5 he he he

how much u got it?

for portraits u just need prime lens 50 or 85mm biggrin.gif no need to much PP to make it work
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ May 30 2010, 11:03 AM)
"(Sony produces the excellent sensors in the Nikon D3, D3s and D3x cameras, so why high ISO characteristics are so different when they use the sensor in their own camera is something I can’t understand)"  sweat.gif
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maybe because they remain the "unique" color at costs of sacrifice for having many noises?

The color of Sony/Minolta were always rich on low ISO but whenever it comes to high ISO ... everything just screw up. sad.gif


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QUOTE(mastering89 @ May 30 2010, 11:03 AM)
"(Sony produces the excellent sensors in the Nikon D3, D3s and D3x cameras, so why high ISO characteristics are so different when they use the sensor in their own camera is something I can’t understand)"  sweat.gif
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i think its coz if sony uses it for themselves. nikon will stop buying from them and look for another supplier... hence, business down.
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 30 2010, 11:51 AM)
maybe because they remain the "unique" color at costs of sacrifice for having many noises?

The color of Sony/Minolta were always rich on low ISO but whenever it comes to high ISO ... everything just screw up. sad.gif
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Unique colors? I doubt that. If it's really that unique, I wouldn't see so many of them faking the saturation and colors here. I'm a Sony, Nikon and Canon DSLR user and I don't see much difference on the color among the 3 brands. Unique colors is just a hype by certain people, just like in Nikon they said it's very vivid, in Sony they said it's so called unique, in Canon they said it's so natural or bla bla.

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 30 2010, 12:05 PM)
i think its coz if sony uses it for themselves. nikon will stop buying from them and look for another supplier... hence, business down.
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Thats the point however I don't think Sony will keep letting it's DSLR flagship drag down forever
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 30 2010, 12:20 PM)
Thats the point however I don't think Sony will keep letting it's DSLR flagship drag down forever
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give sony time... they have to fight companies that make 'only' cameras per se and also brands that have already set a market bias.
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ May 30 2010, 11:03 AM)
"(Sony produces the excellent sensors in the Nikon D3, D3s and D3x cameras, so why high ISO characteristics are so different when they use the sensor in their own camera is something I can’t understand)"  sweat.gif
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well, my wild guess lies on the method for the conversion process after the Exmor CMOS sensor capturing the image in the camera itself~ both Nikon and Sony uses the same sensor in D3/a900/a850 and D90/D300/a700~ no doubt bout that but its the main difference in the Noise Reduction implementation on both Sony Bionz and Nikon Expeed engine~ Sony might be still new in dslr line so they cant fully utilise the capability of the Exmor sensor~ one of the very good example how they given the a700 a new frimware V4 update on iso NR improvement~ and how they catching up in iso NR in a550~ and now~ we have promising image sample on the NEX3/NEX5 on clean iso NR at iso 12800~ so its all bout hardware and software utilisation to make things work perfectly~ give Sony Alpha engineers some time~ they are catching up fast in dslr world~ biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hazril @ May 30 2010, 11:04 AM)
what good flash gear got to do with shutter speed...???mind to rephrase ur Q's...???
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i just asking.. coz i noticed when enable the flash..
the shutter value option will increase.. i played on aperture priority dial though..

just want to know if external flash will give more on it..
coz played with slow, fill, disable the flash have different value..
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Given the amount of time Sony has compared to Nikon and Canon , I ought to give Sony an applause. They manage to capture most market in the beginner's section , as per given by statistic of Sony Malaysia.

I find the colours of Sony quite unique as compared to the rest.
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 30 2010, 12:35 PM)
i just asking.. coz i noticed when enable the flash..
the shutter value option will increase.. i played on aperture priority dial though..

just want to know if external flash will give more on it..
coz played with slow, fill, disable the flash have different value..
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well... the more light u have, the slower the shutter speed u can use.... and also u can use lower ISO.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 30 2010, 12:37 PM)
well... the more light u have, the slower the shutter speed u can use.... and also u can use lower ISO.
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i thought the faster shutter it will be..

btw my Q is for the external flash..
how it's help on producing better photo..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 30 2010, 12:43 PM)
i thought the faster shutter it will be..

btw my Q is for the external flash..
how it's help on producing better photo..
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eh wait. lol.. i confused.. yeah. can use faster shutter speed hence less motion blur and can use lower ISO hence less noise = better cleaner pictures.
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 30 2010, 12:35 PM)
i just asking.. coz i noticed when enable the flash..
the shutter value option will increase.. i played on aperture priority dial though..

just want to know if external flash will give more on it..
coz played with slow, fill, disable the flash have different value..
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for fill flash, using pop up flash the maximum sync is 1/160s. usually the camera will set to 1/60s to 1/120s IINM in shutter and aperture priority mode. but you can play with manual mode up to 1/160s.

for external flashes there is HSS (high speed sync) mode where it enables the flash to be sync up to 1/4000s. but the camera will limit to 1/160s if used for bouncing light.

disable flash = no flash sync = up to 1/4000s

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QUOTE(mastering89 @ May 30 2010, 12:47 PM)
for fill flash, using pop up flash the maximum sync is 1/160s. usually the camera will set to 1/60s to 1/120s IINM in shutter and aperture priority mode. but you can play with manual mode up to 1/160s.

for external flashes there is HSS (high speed sync) mode where it enables the flash to be sync up to 1/4000s. but the camera will limit to 1/160s if used for bouncing light.

disable flash = no flash sync = up to 1/4000s
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as for a700/a850/a900 is up to 1/200s (SSS on) and 1/250s (SSS off).
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6) if i use fill flash but lower shutter to be used as slow sync, is the effect the same with slow sync? (situation where no time to change settings)

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mastering89: why u selling ur danbo?
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Mikeshashimi : haha got package sent my my bro, 1 big danbo ( i take this laugh.gif ) + 2 mini ones ( already have so let other ppl have also thumbup.gif )
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ May 30 2010, 01:30 PM)
Mikeshashimi : haha got package sent my my bro, 1 big danbo ( i take this laugh.gif  ) + 2 mini ones ( already have so let other ppl have also thumbup.gif  )
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i have been doing noise on the whole pic and brushing it...to make soft skin and blemish free face...xD
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there are some people who are out to belittle Sony Alpha system. So, just be aware...
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I've sort of got this lens addiction right now sad.gif
Got myself Minolta 50mm f1.7 and Beercan f4 due to the recommendation of the experts here. I am currently thinking of getting a wide-angle lens to complete me collection.

I'm going to South Korea soon for a month and I don't wanna miss any opportunities taking pictures of their world-cup frenzy (and artificial hot chicks I assume:).. Might as well be well-prepared with my lens arsenal:)

So any recommendation for the best value wide-angle lens?

Thanks Qi Tan
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wow!..pretty girl! drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Wow! Pretty iPad! biggrin.gif
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OMG SOMEONE SELLING A700+1680Z FOR RM2999 ONLY IN GARAGE SALE.. sad.gif
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Added on May 30, 2010, 6:35 pmA700 + 1680Z = RM2999 ???
biar betul .. !!!

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How to make a good shoot on our door flower when with strong wind?
I go for high shuttle speed still unable to recover.
Pls educate me.. Thanks.
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QUOTE(boyzone @ May 30 2010, 06:38 PM)
All sifus,

How to make a good shoot on our door flower when with strong wind?
I go for high shuttle speed still unable to recover.
Pls educate me.. Thanks.
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me no sipu... but easier if you could attach photos.

It is difficult to shoot flower in windy situation... maybe can try shooting at different time... eg early in the morning or later in the afternoon where usually not too windy.
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 30 2010, 06:44 PM)
me no sipu... but easier if you could attach photos.

It is difficult to shoot flower in windy situation... maybe can try shooting at different time... eg early in the morning or later in the afternoon where usually not too windy.
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or. get a tripod and a remote shutter.

compose the flowers as a foreground interest subject and then snap!

use a slower shutter speed to blur the movement of the flowers slightly but maintain the background subject...

if u cant shoot in a windy situation, use it to ur advantage. smile.gif
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ May 30 2010, 01:12 PM)
Gouki : a more poison to upgrade . reason i meant  laugh.gif

i still cant figure:
1) when to use the white card on cobra
2) when to use the wide diffuser
3) when to use the stoffen diffuser
4) where to bounce?
5) if no wall to bounce how?
6) if i use fill flash but lower shutter to be used as slow sync, is the effect the same with slow sync? (situation where no time to change settings)
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This is my noobie opinion, wait for sipu to advise.

However, I use (which may not be the correct approach):

1- built in white bounce card on cobra usually to get the catchlight. It is too small to illuminate the subject IMHO. To illuminate subject, maybe a whale-tail bounce card would perform better than the built in cobra bounce card

2- wide diffuser when shooting something close

3- stoffen diffuser when shooting direct flash (fill)

4- bounce towards ceiling

5- direct flash if no wall/ceiling to bounce

6- fill flash + low shutter == slow sync

correct me if Im wrong... thanks
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my 1st try of HDR images...
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C&C pls
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ahpingko, easier to C&C if you number your photos...


Added on May 30, 2010, 6:35 pmA700 + 1680Z = RM2999 ???
biar betul .. !!!
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 30 2010, 07:02 PM)
or. get a tripod and a remote shutter.

compose the flowers as a foreground interest subject and then snap!

use a slower shutter speed to blur the movement of the flowers slightly but maintain the background subject...

if u cant shoot in a windy situation, use it to ur advantage. smile.gif
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Thanks for the advise.. Will try it one by one.

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OMG SOMEONE SELLING A700+1680Z FOR RM2999 ONLY IN GARAGE SALE.. sad.gif
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I think u meant Rm 3999 for used set.. haha.. the pricing is quite nice though =D
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ahpingko, I like #3 smile.gif
#2 blurry... sad.gif
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QUOTE(Soony @ May 30 2010, 07:31 PM)
I think u meant Rm 3999 for used set.. haha.. the pricing is quite nice though =D
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i think he edited the price.

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@ahpingko I can see u edit in PS RAW right? Because the picture looks like u pump the ''Clarity'' value up a lots.
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ahpingko, I like #3 smile.gif
#2 blurry... sad.gif
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 30 2010, 07:40 PM)
@ahpingko I can see u edit in PS RAW right? Because the picture looks like u pump the ''Clarity'' value up a lots.
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i add gausian blur la... tongue.gif
what u mean?..which pic?
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 30 2010, 07:45 PM)
All of the picture ... ...
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urmm..i using HDR Merge Pro in CS 5...adjusting to values to make such pic... blush.gif
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ May 30 2010, 07:47 PM)
urmm..i using HDR Merge Pro in CS 5...adjusting to values to make such pic... blush.gif
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I see ...

It did shows the HDR but I felt too contrast and unnatural ....
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I see ...

It did shows the HDR but I felt too contrast and unnatural ....
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too natural then i feel no point to make it hdr...xD..for me la..i just wan to make something diff.. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 30 2010, 03:20 PM)

vikingw2k : Then can I know why are you into Canon particularly?
f1.0, Tilt Shift, 5x Super Macro Close Up, 5-Stop-Image Stabilizer, 10fps Burst Mode, HD Video, 800mm-1200mm Super Telephoto, noise control, used lenses everywhere. I guess this is holding me back whenever I want to jump to others. Anyway once in a blue moon I'll still grab a D300, D700, A700, A200 when there's good deal to test drive and sell back when I'm enough of it. smile.gif

QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 30 2010, 05:12 PM)
there are some people who are out to belittle Sony Alpha system. So, just be aware...
and I find it hilarious that there are actually sensitive people who think that doing so will gain one something.
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 30 2010, 08:03 PM)
f1.0, Tilt Shift, 5x Super Macro Close Up, 5-Stop-Image Stabilizer, 10fps Burst Mode, HD Video, 800mm-1200mm Super Telephoto, noise control, used lenses everywhere. I guess this is holding me back whenever I want to jump to others. Anyway once in a blue moon I'll still grab a D300, D700, A700, A200 when there's good deal to test drive and sell back when I'm enough of it. smile.gif
and I find it hilarious that there are actually sensitive people who think that doing so will gain one something.
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But sometimes the comment I felt just too straight away(I know have the rights to speak) .... although you got your point for the criticism but keep having strong comment would since make people unkindly to accept it
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 30 2010, 08:08 PM)
But sometimes the comment I felt just too straight away(I know have the rights to speak) .... although you got your point for the criticism but keep having strong comment would since make people unkindly to accept it
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I find it histerical that there are people who are pretentious of helping the alpha community yet when find the opportunity try to belittle the system with various "facts" (so called) whilst at the same time claiming non brand biased

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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 30 2010, 07:05 AM)
Interesting opinion on A850 from a Canon EOS 5D mark II user

http://www.oter.net/oter/2010/05/hands-on-...-a850-dslr.html
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very nice read indeed.

my question:

why can't sony use nikon D3 sensor for their own a900?

my guess is nikon got sign contract with sony stating that its not allowed? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 30 2010, 08:08 PM)
But sometimes the comment I felt just too straight away(I know have the rights to speak) .... although you got your point for the criticism but keep having strong comment would since make people unkindly to accept it
In other words I'm too straight forward perhaps? Well, at times I prefer going straight forward rather than faking my comments and thoughts especially when I'm commenting on a picture rather than giving a whole bunch of crappy replies of "ah nice, ah this ah that" just because I know them and not because the picture is really nice.. smile.gif

QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 30 2010, 08:13 PM)
i can live with a kitlens and without any features if i can obtain the creativity that outweighs any gear.
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If you can live with kitlens, your siggy's gearlist wouldn't exist. It's just the matter of time before one upgrade. I've witnessed myself plenty of forumers here telling me stuff like, "hey, I just need a simple camera and kitlens and I won't need anything else". Well, give him a few months and you'll see new stuff popping up in their siggy. Perhaps self-denial is just a common thingy when a certain group of people just started.

QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 30 2010, 08:18 PM)
I find it histerical that there are people who are pretentious of helping the alpha community yet when find the opportunity try to belittle the system with various "facts" (so called) whilst at the same time claiming non brand biased
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Learn what's "histerical" before using that word. biggrin.gif Don't want to elaborate much on sensitive people who thinks that belittling is a fun thing to do.
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is the D3 sensor sony designed and fab or nikon designed but fabricated by Sony ?
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 30 2010, 08:30 PM)
very nice read indeed.

my question:

why can't sony use nikon D3 sensor for their own a900?

my guess is nikon got sign contract with sony stating that its not allowed? hmm.gif
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aiyo guys, why are you guys cracking your head on this negligible matter? tongue.gif Whatever sensor Sony or Nikon uses, the important thing is the final outcome.
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 30 2010, 08:53 PM)
aiyo guys, why are you guys cracking your head on this negligible matter? tongue.gif Whatever sensor Sony or Nikon uses, the important thing is the final outcome.
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hahaa...no ma...cause nikon sensors handles noise very well at high ISO...

if only sony could integrate some of the technology into its own sensor.........? hmm.gif


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hysterical [hɪˈstɛrɪkəl], hysteric
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adui..why becoming english class now? doh.gif

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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 30 2010, 08:18 PM)
I find it histerical ..............
You mentioned histerical and you actually googled hysterical. Which is why I suggest you to get use to it before using it. tongue.gif

QUOTE(zstan @ May 30 2010, 08:54 PM)
hahaa...no ma...cause nikon sensors handles noise very well at high ISO...

if only sony could integrate some of the technology into its own sensor.........? hmm.gif
Yea, which is why I don't understand why some people keep mentioning hey, this is using this part this and that afterall who cares all that as the most important is the last outcome and we knows Nikon's noise control pwn Sony's anytime(again I'm being too straight forward but since you guys also agreed). Whether Sony could use the same technology or not, I guess let's reserve it to Sony's CEO to comment rather than us speculating. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(zstan @ May 30 2010, 08:54 PM)
adui..why becoming english class now? doh.gif

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ah, just ignore it la. Out of sudden people like to go emotional and start hurling personal attack. Skip it and go back to the discussion smile.gif

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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 30 2010, 08:59 PM)
You mentioned histerical and you actually googled hysterical. Which is why I suggest you to get use to it before using it. tongue.gif
Yea, which is why I don't understand why some people keep mentioning hey, this is using this part this and that afterall who cares all that as the most important is the last outcome and we knows Nikon's noise control pwn Sony's anytime(again I'm being too straight forward but since you guys also agreed). Whether Sony could use the same technology or not, I guess let's reserve it to Sony's CEO to comment rather than us speculating. biggrin.gif
ah, just ignore it la. Out of sudden people like to go emotional and start hurling personal attack. Skip it and go back to the discussion smile.gif
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please la.

sony CEO just sit at his table shake leg and wait money(from people like us) enter his pocket. laugh.gif

should be the head of the R & D team in the photography department.


it would save sony a lot of trouble by just using D3 sensor and maybe just change the name....i wonder what's stopping them from doing that.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 30 2010, 09:07 PM)
please la.

sony CEO just sit at his table shake leg and wait money(from people like us) enter his pocket. laugh.gif

should be the head of the R & D team in the photography department.
it would save sony a lot of trouble by just using D3 sensor and maybe just change the name....i wonder what's stopping them from doing that.. laugh.gif
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LOL, true also. but I guess one word from Sony's CEO could alter everything. Who knows in future they might merge Nikon and Sony's technology? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 30 2010, 09:08 PM)
LOL, true also. but I guess one word from Sony's CEO could alter everything. Who knows in future they might merge Nikon and Sony's technology? biggrin.gif
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nah...

i was thinking sony will swallow nikon...muahahhahaha....
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 30 2010, 09:10 PM)
nah...

i was thinking sony will swallow nikon...muahahhahaha....
Well, anything is possible. If Sony could really swallow Nikon, you guys will have plenty of lenses to use tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 30 2010, 08:50 PM)
In other words I'm too straight forward perhaps? Well, at times I prefer going straight forward rather than faking my comments and thoughts especially when I'm commenting on a picture rather than giving a whole bunch of crappy replies of "ah nice, ah this ah that" just because I know them and not because the picture is really nice.. smile.gif
If you can live with kitlens, your siggy's gearlist wouldn't exist. It's just the matter of time before one upgrade. I've witnessed myself plenty of forumers here telling me stuff like, "hey, I just need a simple camera and kitlens and I won't need anything else". Well, give him a few months and you'll see new stuff popping up in their siggy. Perhaps self-denial is just a common thingy when a certain group of people just started. 
Learn what's "histerical" before using that word. biggrin.gif Don't want to elaborate much on sensitive people who thinks that belittling is a fun thing to do.
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Thats good for putting critique but in your comment I find out some "gear-head" minded and too "technically" of picky comparison especially when you keep emphasis the product. You might feel it right when you're truth for compare the general performance but sometimes, too much of performance or handling comparison ends up of flaming with others and making arguments. Well I still respect your words because you're much experiences on camera output and brands and also skills but this is just my personal opinion, no offence.

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Impossible Nikon will get swallowed. They're doing so well and not facing any financial difficulties also.
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QUOTE(wingster @ May 30 2010, 09:13 PM)
Thats good for putting critique but in your comment I find out some "gear-head" minded and too "technically" of picky comparison especially when you keep emphasis the product. You might feel it right when you're truth for compare the general performance but sometimes, too much of performance or handling comparison ends up of flaming with others and making arguments. Well I still respect your words because you're much experiences on camera output and brands and also skills but this is just my personal opinion, no offence.
No worries, none taken. smile.gif Ask yourself, why did you upgrade to DSLR when you could stay with a PnS or even a cameraphone? Simply cause you want better stuff IQ, so why people discuss about lens and performance? Simple, like what I said, people will not stay stagnant and they upgrade as long as pocket could afford.

QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 30 2010, 09:14 PM)
Impossible Nikon will get swallowed. They're doing so well and not facing any financial difficulties also.
Don't be too realistic(straight forward) la thought it's pretty obvious tongue.gif
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hahaha...its not impossible...

because if sony one day dun wan produce sensor for nikon then how?

any other credible sensor making companies out there?

or maybe nikon will have to approach canon instead..

then canon swallow nikon now..XD

omg..we keep hentam nikon.><
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QUOTE(RedFrame @ May 30 2010, 05:49 PM)
Hi guys it me again smile.gif
I've sort of got this lens addiction right now sad.gif
Got myself Minolta 50mm f1.7 and Beercan f4 due to the recommendation of the experts here. I am currently thinking of getting a wide-angle lens to complete me collection.

I'm going to South Korea soon for a month and I don't wanna miss any opportunities taking pictures of their world-cup frenzy (and artificial hot chicks I assume:).. Might as well be well-prepared with my lens arsenal:)

So any recommendation for the best value wide-angle lens?

Thanks Qi Tan
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Assuming you are using an APS-C camera (not FullFrame), have a look at dyxum.com for UWA (Ultra Wide Angle) lens (ie ~10mm to 17mm at closest focal length)

http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/results.asp?IDLensType=3

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So many. Turn to Samsung lo. Sure wont stop providing them with sensors wan la. Good money for Sony too le.
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MoO bro, you sold your UWA ? you had one before right? How was it?

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