i dont feel it is correct to label good karma/bad karma. there are only cause and effect. the concept of karma is to treat it as natural force. you dont go around calling gravity good/bad right?

This post has been edited by lin00b: May 28 2010, 09:10 PM

That is why I'm always of the opinion that there is no such thing as good or bad, there's only consequence. Whether the consequence is perceived as "good" or "bad" is subjective, depending on which belief system you're from.

pain = bad
no pain = good

Whats so hard to NOT understand?

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Added on May 28, 2010, 10:45 pm you ppl are so shallow. doing something good will always be rewarded with something good. You not receiving something good after you've done something good is because u have done something bad in the past which result in an unfavourable response.

Its very simple. someone kill your mom. and then he do something good like help u fix your car. do you think you oughta reward him or dissed him? duh.



This post has been edited by teongpeng: May 28 2010, 10:45 PM

not according to some bsdm video i see

u watch those?

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Added on May 29, 2010, 9:45 amIf you want to read about Kamma, there is a big chunk of it being explained by the Buddha. From Kamma that creates you, sustains your life force, making you experience pleasant and unpleasant things (how your mind reacts to external stimuli), your subconscious, kamma that interrupts your lifeforce (accidental death, etc), kamma that matures now, next life, next 2 lives, indefinite, heavy kamma, etc.

IT's something that is very complex, because everyone in this universe have a will (mind), that constantly creates Kamma that will interact with the world. See, it's very hard to contemplate, and it's among one of the Unthinkables in Buddhism. Think so much on it will make you crazy one.

This post has been edited by soul2soul: May 29 2010, 09:46 AM

oops sorry
I thought karma only applies in the present life, i didn't know it can be extended to past life

got.. the different grades of humans .. are explained by karma lo.

oh thanks for enlightening

i didnt exactly say anything about past life...but oh well...

Not yet but thank you anyway.

Here's a question to those who believe in karma.

If one does a good deed, and let's just say it's in a somewhat, huge proportion, i.e. donated a million to the poor, which side of karma (good / bad) that he will gain if the money which he donated were actually obtained through theft?

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: May 30 2010, 12:17 PM

I have something same problem like you. It is not feel but directly get the karma today, few day, month or yrs. But sure I get it. Since I mature now, when do bad, I will stanby to get the consequence. And I get it. I can't escape it. I get the karma either by fizikal or loose something. Direct or indirectly.

I start to realise it when I am 9 or 10yrs old. Slowly I have to control my bad thing to minimise the karma till non.

I guess the guy up there don't allow me to do bad thing. The problem is, I don't believe such a god thing.

donation brings good karma. theft brings bad karma. and thus he will experience both good and bad consequences separately.

So does that mean as long as the person outweighs his bad deeds with good ones, "karma" will simply deemed his "bad deeds" as excusable?

Or, a more appropriate question will be, why is that bad deeds are always much more severe than good ones?

which part of the consequences happening SEPARATELY dont u understand?

True, consequences may trigger separately in accordance to good and bad karma, but isn't it already a bad karma for a person to rest upon the relieve that he'll always be "okay" about it as long as he manages to top up some good deeds in compensate his bad ones?

For example: I stole something. And then I contemplate: "Hey wait, it's that bad karma? Oh wait, no worries. All I gotta do is to get some good karma, and all will be fine." AND SO I CONTINUED STEALING.

Now, I don't know about you, but that thinking is already a "bad karma". Karma may have consequences SEPARATELY for good and bad deeds as you put it, but to actually accept karma as a teaching? I personally think it will put us into that position where we can choose to justify our bad deeds with the good ones, and even if that's possible, I seriously think we're in a big deal of bad karma, which ultimately means that if you believe in karma, only bad things can happen to you, LOL.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: May 30 2010, 02:57 PM

Jesus dude! u really dont understand the meaning of the consequences happening separately do you?

If you steal and do some good deeds, you will suffer consequences of stealing and at a DIFFERENT time enjoy the good consequences of the good deeds.

Yeah, but that will put ourselves in the very position I described in my post.

u thirsty u drink. u hungry u eat. DIFFERENT THINGS BRO. DIFF-farking-RENT! haih....