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Science Solar energy as an alternative source, ... Why not?

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robertngo
post May 19 2010, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Beastboy @ May 19 2010, 04:16 PM)
Interesting... I used to think it was a limitation of physics that made it impossible to develop the solar cell further based on current materials. Problems with the traditional photovoltaic model perhaps. I think something new is brewing in Australia on this.

On the issues, so far I can't see much difference from those experienced by wind power such as seasonality (wind sometimes stops blowing), storage, efficiency, set up cost. One wind turbine and its support subsystems are not cheap and because climate change is making wind patterns unpredictable, the risks of wrongly placing them is high.

Wind power is already mainstream in certain parts of the world so I wonder why its any less risky than the old photovoltaic solar panels? We don't know if the wind might stop blowing tomorrow but the sun will definitely come up for sure.
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malaysia maybe more suitable for wind than solar with our long coastline, solar panel take over large area, australia and china can setup their solar farm in the desert while we need to clear forest to setup solar farm. they need to look at the wind pattern in malaysia and identify optimum area to setup wind farm, china have been setting up wind farm at breakneck speed, so we can by the tech and consultation from there.

either solar or wind we still need a better grid system to transfer the energy more efficiently and balance the load.

as for energy storage, a simple but not very efficient way can be found in dam australia where during night time where energy use is low, the extra power is use to pump power into the dam's lake and during peak our the water are released to generate extra energy

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post May 20 2010, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(Beastboy @ May 20 2010, 09:43 PM)
Yes at our present consumption rates, nothing less than fossil fuels is viable apart from nuclear. Our lifestyle's so tightly wound around fossil fuels a 10% drop in energy supply will be drastic, a 40% drop catastrophic. Given the numbers, I can't see any other way for alternative fuels to be viable except to reduce consumption i.e. a drastic change in lifestyle. In other words, over our dead bodies.
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if you build solar farm you need to build another power plant to provided power when sun is not up.

the most viable way is to tap our hydro capacity as much as possible, build nuke plant to replace coal and diesel plant and complement with solar and wind farm, a new smart grid will help with delivering the power more more efficiently.
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post Jun 1 2010, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Beastboy @ Jun 1 2010, 09:38 AM)
We have an extinct one in Sabah I think, and we still have a few active hot springs in peninsular Malaysia. The point is, whether the source is geothermal or solar, we are baking left and right with no motivation to harness all that energy.

I notice the power industry keeps running back to oil and gas baseline as if nothing else will ever do, except nuclear which you rightly pointed out is also non renewable. Its a subtle way of saying the renewable energy sector is a waste of time. If societies are not willing to consider a lifestyle that's less power hungry, then I guess the writing is on the wall then.
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actually we dont need to increase power output, how about just reducing waste, by implementing strict building code on home and office to be more efficient. there are one zero energy building beloging to Pusat Tenaga Malaysia. the lesson learn there should be implemented in other new development and retrofitting old building to be more efficient.

 

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