What happens if I dont agree? I cant see the corellation you mention between technology progress, mental development, and the need for war or genocide.

If mental development is slow how can technology progress further? One genius is all it takes? Then wait 170 years (Einstien birthdate minus Newton death date) to make a new leap.

Beastboy, you keep saying maybe, maybe, maybe. Please draw out how it links up.

In 170 years not everyone could not fully graps Newton's Law then Einstien came along with new concepts. Without total comprehension of Newton, how could people know what Einstien is talking about. So this becomes the reason for war?

Thanks for the explaination . I guess it come down to science and ethics, but then again it is the policy makers that makes the decision.

I still have problem understanding this passage below

Is this your own interpretation?

Okay, I get it. High wisdom is a much better word than social/personal development which can be equate to intelligence ...

It still comes down to hatred as the basis for people to clobber one another. However smart or wise you are Beastboy, if I see you in real and irritate you enough, you will whack the shit out of me.

Vulcuns are bad example. They have no emotions. They will not be fuelled with fury to punch me out. Romulan are the same as Vulcuns high tech and high wisdom. They love to clobber the Vulcans (their distant relatives) simply because Vulcuns differ with them on the issue of emotion long ago.

Looks like you got all this from Koei's Dynasty Warrior 6. For you information, it is not true. Koei is more into "what if" situation for this version.

Back to your question. This lag is here help us realise how much we had specialise in killing each other. It is best we begin to close the gap. Thus that will fit into your preseverance concept. It may well be the last warning. Weapons of mass destruction is way ahead compare to Qing Long's time as you mentioned. Some day a wise kid with a tantrum can just resort to his super toy gun and balst the shit out of mother earth. That is the lesson for not trying to narrow the gap. But nothing can be done if there is total anhiliation. Just like the dinasours we will be extinct. This is the other side of your coin - the destruction concept.

From an evolution point of view, it is a chicken and egg situation. Evolution works in circles. If you try to break out of it, some unseen central fugal force will pull you back. T-Rex had come to the end. Soon all species will come to their end. All must come to their end then another big bang will bring a rebirth.

Come now, Beastboy. You do not seem like the type that cant take a critique. Take it as constructive crtiticism. Let it pass and mosey along.

Man when corner will do the best but it does not mean they will succeed. General Custer at Big Horn, Jim Bowie at Alamo ... They we impressive battle but they did not survive.

It does not matter wheather a rock fell down and wipe them out or lacking food. It has to come to an end for a new begining. If the end is by clobering each other, then so be it. Again I see the pause to be a warning for use to come to realisation. Time to embrace love and reject hate if we want to live longer. We can delay it but the end will come. Lack of resources or whatever reasons, the end will come.

Think of it a religion if you want. Confucius is a stateman. He was not deemed as a religious leader like Buddha. He propagate "Love Thy Neighbour" to his countrymen. They issue here is hate being the factor that caused the need to clobber each other. If we are to look beyond this hate we need the opposite.

The teachings are there a long time ago does not imply that people are practising it all along. People are materialistic and self seeking. These concepts just do not appeal to them. The question now is if these concept been practise by the majority since Shi Huang Ti, would China been a different civilisation. A civilazaion that had managed to close the gap of technology and wisdom?

This is what I expected it to be, initially. After some rethinking, I changed my mind. Technology level is relative. In the early 1900 we dont even know how to build high rise. Yet the Eygptian had build huge pyramids. Technology had regressed in the middle aged from the Eygptian level. Could there already been an armegeddon for the Eygptian that none of their technology survived? It could be the Eygptians today are not the same race that built the pyramid. People just occupied their land after they were wipped out. Lets also revisit the mytical Alantis civilization. If they existed then they had faced the same fate as Eygpt. It seems to me that if you dont heed the warning them is goodbye. Back then it is one civilization die and another civilization takes over. Now the world is almost boarderless. Labour and capital migrate across the boarder more freely. We are looking at the world as a civilization. If an armageddon is due, we could we salvage our current technology. We may have the space to store the info but could we perserve all skills. Likely all willbe loss and any survivor started from scratch.

Smith sorry to disagree. Since Confucius chinese had been taught to be benevolent. In spite of all the life they seen lost through the ages of civil war, the chinese are still self centered. They mind their own business on matters that dont concern them.

I dont think I get you well. Did you mean when the last WWII vetren dies we are ready to jump to #4?

What good is an ark or underground archives without practioners. The skills are important. A carpenter, black smiths, welders, mechanics, ... Well it is like the Noah's Ark issue. Noah had to choose all the different type of animals (He had problems identifing the different species. Evven now taxidermist dont know them all). The show 2012 gives some insight to the criteria of selection. As much as we wanted to select a breed of eugenics, we need some people to do the dirty work.

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Added on May 24, 2010, 2:30 pmOkay I see your point. The old guards is no longer there to remind us.

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What is MAD and what scenerio, lin00b?

I think people will not come to their sense even after a holocust. As I have cited Confucius ideal never did get practise. It is only practise at your convinence. Imagine there is any road accident in a kampung. Who you think will crowd around to make a big fuss out of an injured chicken. Chinese, who know confucious teachings, will choose to apply "you die your business" and speed off.

Hey, that is why the kiasu stock pile the underground bunkers. They forgot the need to keep stock on skilled people. They come out of the aftermath. They had the existing knowledge stored in hard disk. They cant make a simple bolt and nut. They may not even know where to find nickel cadmium to power their PC.

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Yes Robert. Iam sure before comming out of the bunkers they will ensure it is safe to come out. Their food supply would also cater more to encounter any incontingensies.

Wow, we had come to an end already? Geezzz I was just begining to have fun.

What I mean is we had the answer to the questions we seek where this topic is concern.

HABIS CERITA

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