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Farmer_C
post Feb 26 2013, 03:58 PM

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I'm doing my PhD in Drug Discovery Biology simply because:

1. I love pursuing science and knowledge and want to have a better understanding of my field.

2. I dislike having to accept 'what something is' without understanding 'why something is'.

3. More career options and potentially better career progression (compared to if I just had a bachelor's degree).

4. Prestige. Yes prestige, but that's an added bonus.

5. I want to be a positive impact to society, science and healthcare.
Farmer_C
post Mar 11 2013, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(ron4 @ Feb 26 2013, 07:57 PM)
Do you prefer lecturers that have a lot of industry experience (but without Phd), compared to lecturers have Phd but zero industry experience.
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It really depends on what the lecture is on. If it is on theoretical matters, only someone with a PhD will suffice because they are usually at the forefront of research (at least that's how it is in a decent university). If it is on purely practical matters, then someone with noteworthy industry experience and achievement will do a better job.

Note however that there are a lot of PhD degree holders out there who are also leaders in the field in industry and hence can speak not only from experience, but also from their deep understanding of the subject being also involved in research.
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post Mar 12 2013, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(eyeshield @ Mar 12 2013, 12:44 AM)
Im doing his reseach, become GRA for 4 month and then got mybrain. So right now im doing all his research for free  sweat.gif
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What's your research on?
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post Mar 21 2013, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(v1n0d @ Mar 21 2013, 03:56 AM)
I do find it upsetting, yes. The government has made it their focus to encourage youths to take up a Masters/PhD with their scholarship programs. However, the criteria for acceptance into these courses are the student's CGPA alone. A CGPA of above 3.0 entitles you to do your Masters, whereas a CGPA of above 3.5 entitles you to do your PhD. The problem with this system however is that due to the financial bonuses associated with furthering one's studies, potential candidates overlook the purpose of research degrees - to expand the horizons of knowledge, and relay that knowledge to the future generation. Add this to the lack of any research competency in the acceptance criteria, and we're breeding lecturers that have poor research skills, who merely teach out of obligation, not passion.

The inability to conduct quality research is a core problem as it directly conflicts with the government's initiative to boost research in local higher institutions of learning. Furthermore, the direct-PhD program lacks certain components, mainly an aptitude test in the general field of study, live training of teaching classes, and most importantly, the 3-year "regular" duration rushes candidates to work on novelty projects - research that only serves the purpose of boosting a university's journal repository. Some supervisors even go to the extent of encouraging their students to publish in paid journals, just so they can complete their research within the regular 3-year time frame. I blame this primarily on our failure to adopt the American approach to awarding PhDs, namely a 5-year course which incorporates a Masters degree and a compulsory written assessment on the general field of study.

As far as student complaints go, students mainly complain about two things - either their lecturers don't know their subject material well enough to teach it, or that their supervisors are unable to adequately supervise them, even at an undergraduate level.

P.S. I am a direct-to-PhD candidate, but I actively advise others not to follow this path. There's no merit in saving on a couple of years of study at the cost of losing out important training in research and teaching.
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Perhaps the reason there are rubbish lecturers is that they were given rubbish training from rubbish universities by rubbish staff themselves. Easy admission into a postgraduate degree is a factor, as you mentioned. I can only speak from my experience in Australia with Monash University. Most students who have completed their undergraduate degree will be required to show some competency in research/work experience before allowed to enter a postgraduate degree.

I also believe that only elite universities in a given country (?) with world-class pedigree in research, sufficient facilities/funding and a well-structured PhD programme should be allowed to confer PhDs to students. Seriously, PhDs are becoming cheap these days. It is unfair to people who fought hard to enter a world-class grad school and worked thrice as hard and contributed ten times as much to knowledge to graduate with a PhD. It is only these people, these passionate, intelligent people who truly care for their field who deserve to have a PhD and teach future undergraduates.

If you were to do grad school in a prestigious college without a real passion for your field, you will not survive. Monash University makes sure you pass several checkpoints each year and constantly assesses your competency, where the lack thereof will result in you getting kicked out in your first year. The Faculty of Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical Sciences where I'm from is ranked 6th in world and takes its research seriously. They live and breathe high-impact journals. Only novel and high-impact research is undertaken by students and staff alike, which is how it should be in all institutes that award PhDs, the pinnacle of the education system.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the 3-year system. PhD graduates of Monash University (3-year system) are encouraged to do at least one post-doc before allowed to lecture, which I think is a great idea. The people who lecture in my faculty are mostly demi-gods of their field so I think it is unfair to blame the 3-year system.

In short, PhDs should only be awarded by institutes able to carry out internationally-recognised research with a good PhD programme in place. This way, these universities will be compelled to pick only the most passionate, the most intelligent students for their graduate programmes. They will filter out the wannabes by careful assessment of their research competency, by interview and by recommendation. The filtration process will then also continue throughout candidature to root out bad apples. The staff will also be on their toes to produce the best graduates and to do good research, because only world-class staff can produce world-class research and PhD graduates. Perform or get sacked.

This post has been edited by Farmer_C: Mar 21 2013, 02:25 PM
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post Mar 22 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(v1n0d @ Mar 22 2013, 01:07 PM)

Now there still will be candidates who can complete the 3-year direct PhD and produce good work, but I'm worried about the no-so-good-ones that are passing as well. As a product of this system, I don't want to be compared unfairly to those who do substandard work. Earning a PhD implies you're an expert in your field, and the lack of QC I've seen recently is a cause for concern. Your suggestion to limit the awarding of PhDs to be from high-tier universities does directly solve this issue, but it also kills off the research arm in most 2nd-tier universities, which is unacceptable given that some of the more interesting projects I've seen recently are from those institutions that were recently awarded university status.
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I understand what you're saying. It does suck when you've excelled and earned your testamur through and through and find that someone with sub-standard competency has the exact same certificate. I agree that my suggestion was radical and will probably never be implemented anywhere in the world but it gets you thinking as to what PhD graduates should really be like. Should we really have these pseudo-experts in our education system and trust them with our country's undergraduates?
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post Jun 17 2013, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(ron4 @ May 20 2013, 11:00 PM)
http://iedaimmi.blogspot.com/2013/03/jins-...egar-walau.html

http://www.mstar.com.my/cerita.asp?file=/2...nusia_peristiwa

This guy was taking his Phd while age around 73 years old. After finished his Phd, now he suffered from alzheimer's disease. Like a few people in this forum said Phd = permanently head damage.

So i think finish your Phd while you still young.
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On the contrary, not using your brain enough for thinking is a risk factor for Alzheimer's Disease.
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post Jun 17 2013, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(zoomckng @ Jun 17 2013, 02:35 PM)
learning is a life Long process. It doesn't stop after doctorate, etc.
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"Ancora imparo (still I am learning)" - Michelangelo
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post Oct 3 2013, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(QDaMonster @ Sep 30 2013, 11:11 AM)
Is it true that going for PhD has lesser chance to build a family because of spending too much time on the research itself?

Because I see most of my lecturer still being single. tongue.gif
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Don't have kids during your PhD unless someone is willing to look after them for you all the time tongue.gif

Most of the people I know with PhDs have partners so I think it should be okay!
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post Apr 4 2015, 11:42 AM

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The only way one can survive a PhD in a quality programme is with passion and lots of support from your loved ones. Doing a PhD means you want to challenge yourself, learn and open more doors in your career. Anyone doing it for just money is kidding him/herself... cause the financial benefits you get are indirect and not instant per se.
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post Apr 13 2015, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Apr 13 2015, 04:22 PM)
An opportunity came up recently on doing a PhD at one of the golden triangle.  The research will be in an engineering / computation related subject. 

There are a number of issues to consider, with funding being one of them because if I'm doing this, it'll be funded by my company possibly with supplements from EPSRC UK.  I will most likely be working half the week, with another half working in the lab. 

I already know my research topic (it'll be on the applied side) and the supervisor (we have collaborated together and produced joint papers) so I am still targeting a 3-4 years completion date. 

What I can't decide is whether I should walk away from my current job (I am pretty nicely paid) and a good team, and will also require me to move back to UK (I'm currently in Australia).

My experience has always been in the industry, and I intend to remain in the industry.  Not expecting a pay rise with a PhD, but wanted to do it because it'll open up doors for me in the really exciting stuff. 

I am 30 years old currently with no commitment. 

Welcome thoughts from those who have been through this process before.  Many thanks!
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Congrats on being given this opportunity. I can't imagine that this will be a simple decision to make. It's one of the reasons why I decided to do my PhD immediately after my undergraduate degree instead of working. My opportunity came and I chose to finish my formal education once and for all before venturing forth into work.

I'd say you should take this opportunity especially since you have no commitments. Not everyone is offered the chance to pursue a PhD. It will change the way you think as a person and in your career forever, like an evolution for the mind. As you have said yourself, it will open doors to many exciting things in your career or even outside of your career. No one should do a PhD expecting instant financial gratification but eventually it will repay you in full and more.

Pursue this PhD if you are really passionate about your field of work/study because it's not going to be easy juggling a career and your research. However, if you make it in the end, it will be worth it. Good luck!

 

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