master and phd also same only ma.. phd just an extension of masters. You're still doing research project. No changes only the title

That a wrong perception...after PhD you're an expert of the field you're in...you'll see PhD holder giving comments and consultation but not masters..
Once you've chosen your specialization, there's no turning back..

This post has been edited by highwind85: Jun 4 2010, 11:45 PM

ok first of all
i choose biotech because i like genetics, research.
but in malaysia this field is not very developed
so will be difficult to get job and go for far
and i searched internet
in usa, almost 40% of biotechnologists are phd holders
it means u cant go very far with your degree
u really need to be expert on the field u going to research


i cant deny that i got a bit regret choosing biotech because of the job prospects in malaysia
but in term of course, things that i going to be study, i really like it


plus i love teaching
so my aim is to become a lecturer
so that i can research and teach
and most ipta and ipts in malaysia require the lecturers to have phd


actually does malaysia lack of bio or che phd?


can give some advice ?
thanks
correct me if i am wrong

It depends on your personally...the biotech arena in malaysia is still at its infancy...most biotech companies are very small..
This is a growing stage...if you ask me how fast is biotech growing? i would say it is quite slow..people are not so willing pumping in money for research..
So it depends on whether are you willing to be part of the biotech development or not?
if you are willing, you can try to get a PhD and subsequently work as postdocs in overseas for a few years before coming back with valuable experience to expand the biotech field here..
But then again, sometimes people tend to stay at overseas due to numerous factors..

Being a lecturer is not only about teaching and lecturing is not the only path for biotech PhD grads..you need to be clear about that 1st..

do you guys mean that after master's degree... one can still opt to specialize in other field for phd?

if someone who has M. Eng Telecommunication (more on networking), can he opt to do PhD in ICT?

PhD is quite specific...Like if you do Masters in Enzymology, you could still do your PhD in Protein Engineering...
You can change focus but not exactly from one field to a very different field..as you need the background for PhD..
But once you've completed you PhD, it's not possible to change anymore...people will regard you as an expert in protein engineering..

More examples are degree in chemistry or biochemistry can do masters in research related to pharmacy, degree in microbiology doing research in food science...they are different by related..

This post has been edited by highwind85: Jun 6 2010, 12:14 AM

Thanks.

I think Telecommunication (incl some networking modules like network management, network security, mobile communication, network switching and design etc) is somehow related to ICT, right?

If it's related, yeah....
I have a lecturer with BSc and MSc in mathematics and PhD in Marine Science..
This is because he derived some formula and used it to write a software to do with marine science...

i saw most uni offer phd in science

means wat?


public uni also
no uni offer phd in biotech or biochem

That is the title only...UKM does offer PhD (Biochemistry)..But what's more important is the project you worked on...
When you go for interview, people will ask you to elaborate in length what did you work on...
Have in mind that PhD is structureless and there are no lectures..

means after u enter only u choose to do your projects in certain field?
wow
good

so u have to discover somethings or create somethings?
very interesting
but i think quite hard
need a bit of luck
and a LOT OF HARDWORK

normally the duration is 3 years right?
y i saw some in us can finish phd in 1 or 2 years?
need to attend conference?
publish idea in journals?

This post has been edited by happy_pink: Jun 6 2010, 11:52 AM

Usually, one will look for a prospective supervisor 1st...discuss with him/her what's the project about
If the supervisor agrees to take you, the next thing should be lodge an application for the PhD and look for scholarships
In this way, you would already know which area you are going to research in..

yeah...lots of hardwork, a little bit of luck and creativity..but sometimes if the findings deviate from your expectation, it's not that bad either..
Minimum duration is 3 years, but for bio grads, hardly possible to make it in 3 years..mostly 3.5 years at my place, and 5 years in UKM...I don't know in anyway one can finish PhD in 1-2 years..
Conference and publications are very much encouraged...but again you need to secure money for conference..sometimes lecturers are willing to sponsor you..sometimes not..
Nah..i've just started my PhD 3 months ago..

Hope this help u, UM have biotech

http://www.thestar.com.my/education/story....5&sec=education

so long?
then i will be an old aunt.
u in wat field?
u work a few years only continue or juv stright away study?

I worked as RA at UKM for 1.5 years before i went to ANU for my PhD...Originally decided to do my PhD in UKM..but half way thru, i decided to give it a shot to apply overseas...
I have a biochemistry BSc..Now doing PhD in protein engineering and crystallography..
To be frank, career for a PhD holder will only stabilize in your 30s...if you decide to go for it, you'll have to brace yourself for that..PhD is not for the faint of heart..

actually y u wanna do phd?
is malaysia lack of phd?
r u working now like part time?
get scholarship?
next time u wan work as wat?
u must be very good lo
first class honour from bsc to phd

is biochem your choice?
actually many of my friends don know wat to choose
is like choosing the course u really like or for the job prospects
we r afraid of choosing somethings we lke but hard to get job in the future
there is a huge difference between dream and reality

This post has been edited by happy_pink: Jun 7 2010, 02:27 AM

Instead of asking others why they wanna do their PhD, why don't you ask yourself do you really want a PhD..
If you're unsure, you can always work as a RA while find out whether you like the work or not..Often we hear than PhD candidates lost their passion halfway through their project....There is no rush as taking PhD is 1 big decision that can change our life..
I'm not working now..I'm on scholarship..No one is willing to do PhD overseas without a scholarship..hefty fees and mediocre salary after graduate...But the life is more or less like working...
How do you define good job prospect? PhD is as you see it..Academic or research career...unless you wanna venture into sales after PhD..And like every other job, you need to be good in order to get employed..
Do not expect very high salary upon graduation...RM10k salary before 35 y/o is not very likely..
There's a whole world out there...do not limit yourself in Malaysia only..if you choose PhD, be prepared to work in overseas next time..
Biochem was my 1st choice when i applied for university..

i agree with mostly what u have mentioned there, esp the bold statement.=)
Doing Phd is not an easy and simple task, it need a lots of passions and hardwork,a dn more importantly ur passion on research.
I believe you do have a deep interest in the research on protein fields, so only u choose to do protein engineering.
I have a foreign professor in my university who did a good and high quality research on proteins, i still remember when one of my seniors,who do not have any little ideas on how to differentiates and understand about the various protein structures, the prof can figure out and explain in a more detailed way and patiently drew out 3 dimensional description of proteins in order to boost the understanding.
He has indeed shown his deep interest in this field.

Biochem is a very general degree indeed, lots of postgrads programme u can do after the degree. =D
I would somehow have in my mind that i will venture into emzymology in near future.=)
Would you mind to mention the scholarships that u currently attached to? In what sense do you feel that Phd is more like working ?

Another thing which i would like to add on is, Phd does not limit you only to research university or lab, it is more than what u could think of, if u r an expert in a certain field, do google out what the field emcompass, look for the prospects in the field.for perhaps a consultant in a factory and other working settings, like a food and nutrition centres are also in the scope.

To avoid confusion, need to clarify a bit here, most of the opinions i've given here are based on my observation in my field, i.e. bio related field and mayb chemistry..
To me, PhD (again research lab based) are more like working...have to be in the lab minimum 9-5pm, 5days a week..
That's the general rule of thumb..it's ok not to follow strictly to the 9-5pm rule occasionally as you may have errands to run..but supervisors expect you to work beyond the 9-5pm a day, 5 days a week concept...As opposed to economics or arts based PhD students, they have flexibility in terms of study time..
I'm on ANU PhD Scholarship offered by Australian National University..

Enzymology...that's a good 1...in which aspect? reaction mechanism, kinetics?
In malaysia, a lot of stuffs are still lagging behind, so it is up to you...whether you wanna venture into foreign land and bring back the knowledge and expertise and contribute back to the development of malaysian biotech scene..Most of the PhD grads i met during my RA-ship are now working in UK, Sweden, US...

This post has been edited by highwind85: Jun 7 2010, 12:18 PM

Thank Deus I'm not in your field / uni! I've have been given the boot a long time ago if this was a case. And so would a lot of my PhD. colleagues.