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The lower bitrate on the Minority Report on the UK version does not hinder the PQ from what I have been told. The bitrates on the US version are very very high, the comment that is floating around is that it is as though someone just turned up the bitrates and went to sleep.

Actually on Minority Report the audio from the EU/UK is actually higher bitrate than the US counterpart by almost 33%. Would it make a difference? I doubt it.

never did comparison with US version..
care to explain what impact if the bitrate lower?

Possible issues would be softness (instead of a sharper image), slightly more artifacting/aliasing. Again, unless someone really messed up with the encodes, it would only be apparent in the very big screens and with people with discerning eyes.

However, when the encode is not done correctly or there are problems with the source, u would detect it easily. I hv seen moire, artifacting/aliasing, digital noise, EE and DNR on 1080p encodes. Theoretically, it shd be almost zero, but remember the source is film which is higher resolution than 1920 X 1080. Depending on how they transfered to 1080p, it is very possible to induce all the problems. All this is not even taking into account the bitrates.

In short, bitrates are not everything. Most of the time the encoding and the amount of effort spent in restoring the movie from the masters is where the problems lies.

Question,

I've been monitoring at certain places and found that pirated BD's are now available everywhere. Does it makes an impact on genuine BD buyers , to turn around for pirated BD's instead ...as they are available for cheap rate.?

If this is the case, how could video shops like SV, EV gonna survive with the availability of pirated BD's ? I suppose , LYN forum members still believes on the genuine items despite this "disease".

Btw, not to mention where i've seen this been sold, i assume everyone must have guessed it by now ..where they are from..

SV, EV will still survive regardless pirated is there or not..
look on the DVD era...pirated is the mainstream but SV, EV still there...not yet bankrupt..

True, i believe they did survive..but my actual concern is not SV / EV. My utmost concern is the consumers like us and the rest out there who opt for the available pirated BD's instead the genuine ones.
The demand for BD piracy could lead to another disaster, but im sure the authority is having an eye on this , are they..

Whether EV,SV makes profits or closes down business is not the concern here. As many of us here buy / sell from and to each other. Obviously this gonna continue for a long years but wat about those buyers out there who doesn't seem to realize that LYN is the safest place to buy [despite & minus the scams of course]..

I've been there, done that.... wif dvds! No way I'm putting that in my bluray player. I guess in the long run, the oris are the best bet, despite of the premium pricing. But most will disagree though... thankfully not in LYN here though

Kindly throw the disc to me.

...and I'll be right behind you... just in case if you miss catching it

Dun forget, besides competing against the black market, video retailers also have to compete with the grey markets ...

But i guess they have themselves to blame, during the DVD era, their DVD quality is, err.. worse than pasar malam's, and the really good quality ones are over-priced imports. Same with BDs, again, either overpriced or inferior quality. Think of it, u think people here like to sweat everyday hoping for their Amazon parcels to come in one piece if they can get similiar products round the corner?

I had to raise the question of piracy of BD cause i've be receiving some anonymous emails & messages on availability of pirated BD's. DVD's definitely out of the picture at the moment , although i do keep my original dvds now which i have purchased during the time.

The pirated BD's seems to resemble the original , and competitively.. the price too seems to come along in the battle. Yep, thankfully in LYN this doesn't seem to be the case.

Although pirated DVD's are still in demand, pirated BD's seem to be moving into the picture slowly with the demand from the consumers. This definitely has to end soon !

If they do realize that similar products / item is available through the proper channel [ie actual video shops].
The over pricing of BD's seems to pushing away genuine buyers to turn around and look for black market items ie pirated disc.

As fadthil mentioned, we all here still on the right track despite the disease out there..for how long more..

No need to throw, bro kianwee is kind hearted . he could probably just donate it to you leh..

This post has been edited by sKyWiR3pT3lTd: May 25 2010, 04:39 PM

BDs got pirated already? i saw one a while back and 'tested' one... but dat one seems they burn the movie in a double layer DVD only...
but thanks to PS3... now im beginning to find my way in the oris track... no more piracy for me... eventhough the price a bit killing my pocket... but it worth it...

one off topic questions...
how do we know if the DVDs is region free or not? i'm thinking of buying some TV series DVD from amazon... but US DVD region is different from ours rite?

I don't think the pirated one are the same as original. AFAIK most of the pirated BD out there is all single layer (25GB), and for single layer disc they're selling at what price? RM35?

I heard the pirated dual layer BD50 BD is selling around RM50. I'm not sure maybe someone can verify. Those who think that version is worth the money must be out of his mind. Topup a bit I can get an original BD, perhaps with more disc (bonus feature, dvd copy, digital copy a.k.a coaster etc)

Unless we're talking about selling at RM10 per BD, then I can see people actually getting it.

Blu-ray piracy started sometime ago despite that we still have loads of genuine consumers , buyers getting the right products accordingly. I dont think you're quite right there, as you will not be able to duplicate blu-ray master to DVD9 unless they are compressing the blu-ray files into DVD format and produce DVD instead pirated BD [correct me if im wrong].

I bought one before for fun, they seem to use BDRW to have the similar copy of from the master. The cover art seems to resemble as well. They are sold at cheap rate [half the price offered for ori's in LYN].

If you need help on DVD Regions check this : Amazon.co.uk Help : DVD Regions

This post has been edited by sKyWiR3pT3lTd: May 25 2010, 05:07 PM

Apparently the originals are not similar to pirated but somehow rather they are. Yep, they are stuffed in 25GB disc and price is around RM3x. There was a sales topic opened sometime ago in LYN, some guys spotted it and reported the 25gb "not DVD9" thread.

Dual layer 50GB cost around rm4x [the one i came across]. Well, how many would go for RM70 w special features , DVD copy, digital copy etc ? and how many would just buy the pirated BD for a sake of the movie itself minus the special features and others goodies..? Well ratio could be higher on those getting from black market bro..

Not that i've seen one RM10 BD yet..could soon be landed to black market i suppose..

Maybe i need to get into the mind of a peasant to understand that pirated BD is actually worth getting. If really want to save the few bucks, might as well get a mkv player and download mkv F.O.C.

amazon information always not accurate lol, better check on other website.